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[PATCH] New Eldoc function `help-at-pt-eldoc-function'

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Message #17 received at 77169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Daniel Mendler <mail <at> daniel-mendler.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 77169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#77169: [PATCH] New Eldoc function `help-at-pt-eldoc-function'
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 21:56:27 +0100

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Daniel Mendler <mail <at> daniel-mendler.de>
>> Cc: 77169 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 12:29:13 +0100
>> 
>> > Thanks, but please also reflect this feature in the doc string of
>> > help-at-pt-display-when-idle and in the Emacs user manual (where that
>> > option is described).
>> 
>> The question is if `help-at-pt-display-when-idle' should be marked
>> obsolete in favor of the Eldoc mechanism to avoid conflicts. Eldoc is
>> even preloaded these days, so the de-facto standard for documentation at
>> point.
>
> Users can still disable ElDoc, and if they do, perhaps they would like
> to have help-at-pt-display-when-idle.
>
> We could start the process of obsoleting help-at-pt-display-when-idle,
> if we think it should be superseded by ElDoc, but that process takes
> time, and in the meantime we should assume people are still using
> help-at-pt-display-when-idle and need to be aware of the replacement,
> and vice versa.

Agree.

>> > Also, shouldn't we have a user option to turn this on in ElDoc?
>> 
>> Not sure if we need an option given that it is easy to add the function
>> to the list, or remove it, if the function is enabled by default.
>
> It might be easy fore you and me, but not for users who are not Lisp
> programmers.

Okay. I have attached an updated version of the patch to this mail. I
have added a customization option (off by default) and a NEWS entry.

Daniel

[0001-New-Eldoc-function-eldoc-help-at-pt-function.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

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