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I have seen that font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search is more preferably
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I have seen that font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search is more preferably
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> From: Elijah Gabe Pérez
> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:41:53 -0600
>
> I have seen that font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search is more preferably used by major modes than minor
> modes.
How did you see that, and where?
> However, I have not found a note in documentation that says where to use it.
>
> Shouldn't a note be added to the documentation about this?
We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So
please provide more details.
Thanks.
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Eli Zaretskii writes:
#+begin_quote
How did you see that, and where?
#+end_quote
Mostly in third-party major-mode. But also in built-in ones, for
example css-mode that have font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search set to 't.
I haven't seen any minor mode that uses this variable. I guess the
reason is to avoid conflicts with the major mode.
#+begin_quote
We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So
please provide more details.
#+end_quote
My idea is to add a kind of note to
font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search documentation in lispref tex file
to avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
Something like this:
#+begin_src diff
diff --git a/doc/lispref/modes.texi b/doc/lispref/modes.texi
index 768d78229aa..02e7a6f553f 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/modes.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/modes.texi
@@ -3573,6 +3573,9 @@ Search-based Fontification
@defvar font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search
Non-@code{nil} means that regular expression matching for the sake of
@code{font-lock-keywords} should be case-insensitive.
+
+@strong{Warning:} This variable is intended to be used by major modes
+and it's not recommended change it by minor modes
@end defvar
@node Customizing Keywords
#+end_src
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
How did you see that, and where?
Mostly in third-party major-mode. But also in built-in ones, for
example css-mode that have font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search set to 't.
I haven't seen any minor mode that uses this variable. I guess the
reason is to avoid conflicts with the major mode.
We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So
please provide more details.
My idea is to add a kind of note to
font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search documentation in lispref tex file
to avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
Something like this:
diff --git a/doc/lispref/modes.texi b/doc/lispref/modes.texi
index 768d78229aa..02e7a6f553f 100644
--- a/doc/lispref/modes.texi
+++ b/doc/lispref/modes.texi
@@ -3573,6 +3573,9 @@ Search-based Fontification
@defvar font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search
Non-@code{nil} means that regular expression matching for the sake of
@code{font-lock-keywords} should be case-insensitive.
+
+@strong{Warning:} This variable is intended to be used by major modes
+and it's not recommended change it by minor modes
@end defvar
@node Customizing Keywords
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> From: Elijah Gabe Pérez
> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:20:06 -0600
>
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>
> How did you see that, and where?
>
> Mostly in third-party major-mode. But also in built-in ones, for example css-mode that have
> font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search set to 't.
>
> I haven't seen any minor mode that uses this variable. I guess the reason is to avoid conflicts with the major
> mode.
>
> We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So please provide more details.
>
> My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search documentation in lispref tex file to
> avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to
affect font-lock in the first place, are they?
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Eli Zaretskii writes:
>> From: Elijah Gabe P=C3=A9rez
>> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:20:06 -0600
>>=20
>> Eli Zaretskii writes:=20
>>=20
>> How did you see that, and where?=20
>>=20
>> Mostly in third-party major-mode. But also in built-in ones, for example=
css-mode that have
>> font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search set to 't.=20
>>=20
>> I haven't seen any minor mode that uses this variable. I guess the reaso=
n is to avoid conflicts with the major
>> mode.=20
>>=20
>> We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So pl=
ease provide more details.=20
>>=20
>> My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search =
documentation in lispref tex file to
>> avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.=20
>
> I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to
> affect font-lock in the first place, are they?
Right, they should not, however for case-insensitive fontification this can=
lead to
newcomer users that wants to define a minor mode /(such as for highlight so=
mething)/
use this variable.
Otherwise this bug could already be closed.
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
From: Elijah Gabe P=C3=A9rez <eg642616@gmail.com>
Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 13:20:06 -0600
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:=20
How did you see that, and where?=20
Mostly in third-party major-mode. But also in built-in ones, for examp=
le css-mode that have
font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search set to 't.=20
I haven't seen any minor mode that uses this variable. I guess the rea=
son is to avoid conflicts with the major
mode.=20
We need to understand the issue better to reply to this question. So p=
lease provide more details.=20
My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-searc=
h documentation in lispref tex file to
avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.=20
I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to
affect font-lock in the first place, are they?
Right, they should not, however for case-insensitive fontification this can=
lead to
newcomer users that wants to define a minor mode (such as for highlight =
something)
use this variable.
Otherwise this bug could already be closed.
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> From: Elijah Gabe Pérez
> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:57:45 -0600
>
> My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search documentation in lispref
> tex file to avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
>
> I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to affect font-lock in the first place, are
> they?
>
> Right, they should not, however for case-insensitive fontification this can lead to newcomer users that wants
> to define a minor mode (such as for highlight something) use this variable.
>
> Otherwise this bug could already be closed.
Stefan, WDYT?
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Eli Zaretskii writes:
>> From: Elijah Gabe P=C3=A9rez
>> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:57:45 -0600
>>
>> My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search=
documentation in lispref
>> tex file to avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
>>
>> I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to affect =
font-lock in the first place, are
>> they?
>>
>> Right, they should not, however for case-insensitive fontification this =
can lead to newcomer users that wants
>> to define a minor mode (such as for highlight something) use this variab=
le.
>>
>> Otherwise this bug could already be closed.
>
> Stefan, WDYT?
I'd tend to agree with Eli.
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#77005: 31.0.50; Add note about font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search usage
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> From: Stefan Kangas
> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2025 14:24:07 -0700
> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
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> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>
> >> From: Elijah Gabe Pérez
> >> Cc: 77005@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 12:57:45 -0600
> >>
> >> My idea is to add a kind of note to font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search documentation in lispref
> >> tex file to avoid any confusion that this can be used in minor modes.
> >>
> >> I wonder why is this necessary. Minor modes are not supposed to affect font-lock in the first place, are
> >> they?
> >>
> >> Right, they should not, however for case-insensitive fontification this can lead to newcomer users that wants
> >> to define a minor mode (such as for highlight something) use this variable.
> >>
> >> Otherwise this bug could already be closed.
> >
> > Stefan, WDYT?
>
> I'd tend to agree with Eli.
Thanks, closing.
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I have seen that font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search is more preferably
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I have seen that font-lock-keywords-case-fold-search is more preferably
used by major modes than minor modes.
However, I have not found a note in documentation that says where to use
it.
Shouldn't a note be added to the documentation about this?
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