GNU bug report logs - #76998
Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout, starts new instance on login

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Package: guix;

Reported by: dannym <at> friendly-machines.com

Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:11:02 UTC

Severity: important

Merged with 67863, 74912

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67863: closed (Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout,
 starts new instance on login)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 13:37:07 +0000
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From: xeji <at> cat3.de
To: "bug-guix <at> gnu.org" <bug-guix <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Guix Home: Multiple instances of user Shepherd created
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2023 23:42:04 +0100 (CET)
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I am trying to use the awesome Guix Home Shepherd service for syncthing (home-syncthing-service-type).
 
Syncthing works fine but every time I log out of my last user session and log back in again, a new instance of the user shepherd is started (and tries to start syncthing again).
After logging out and in a few times, there are multiple user shepherd processes.
 
Suspected cause:  Apparently the user shepherd process is not killed on last logout before elogind (correctly) removes XDG_RUNTIME_DIR.
So on next login, a new empty XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is created, causing a new user shepherd to be started while the old one is still running happily.
This seems to be a general issue and not particular to the syncthing home service.
 
System: Guix System on x86_64
Guix commit: ac61e9705fb8c450c6cd0c1731fbb1b909c1f944
 
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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
Cc: 74912 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 76998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 76998-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>, Daniel Littlewood <dan <at> danielittlewood.xyz>,
 Danny Milosavljevic <dannym <at> friendly-machines.com>
Subject: Re: bug#76998: Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout, starts new
 instance on login
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:28:54 +0200
Hi,

Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:

> Well, since you have mentioned the GnuPG as an example, we could just
> mirror what it does, and what I have suggested before.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ mkdir /tmp/xxx && cd /tmp/xxx
> $ guix shell -u test -C findutils gnupg coreutils bash procps -- env HOME=/tmp/xxx GNUPGHOME=/tmp/xxx bash
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ gpg-agent --daemon
> gpg-agent[2]: directory '/tmp/xxx/private-keys-v1.d' created
> gpg-agent[3]: gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.4.7 started
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ find /run/user
> /run/user
> /run/user/1000
> /run/user/1000/gnupg
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.ssh
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.browser
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.extra
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ ps aux
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> test         1  0.0  0.0   5136  4068 ?        S    13:32   0:00 bash
> test         3  0.0  0.0   5516  2400 ?        Ss   13:32   0:00 gpg-agent --daemon
> test         5  0.0  0.0   5224  3852 ?        R+   13:32   0:00 ps aux
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ rm -r /run/user/1000/gnupg
> gpg-agent[3]: socket file has been removed - shutting down
> gpg-agent[3]: gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.4.7 stopped
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ find /run/user
> /run/user
> /run/user/1000
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ ps aux
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> test         1  0.0  0.0   5136  4068 ?        S    13:32   0:00 bash
> test         8  0.0  0.0   5224  3776 ?        R+   13:33   0:00 ps aux
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> So my suggestion is that when the socket is deleted, the shepherd
> process stops itself.

Brilliant!

The only downside is that it’ll be a bit of work (using inotify on Linux
and some other method elsewhere, presumably polling) but it definitely
sounds like a good plan.

I can look into it later it nobody beats me at it.

Ludo’.


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