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Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout, starts new instance on login

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: dannym <at> friendly-machines.com
Subject: bug#76998: closed (Re: bug#76998: Guix Home leaves user shepherd
 on logout, starts new instance on login)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 13:37:06 +0000

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Your bug report

#76998: Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout, starts new instance on login

which was filed against the guix package, has been closed.

The explanation is attached below, along with your original report.
If you require more details, please reply to 76998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org.

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From: Ludovic Courtès <ludo <at> gnu.org>
To: Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz>
Cc: 74912 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 76998 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 76998-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Jake <jforst.mailman <at> gmail.com>, Daniel Littlewood <dan <at> danielittlewood.xyz>,
 Danny Milosavljevic <dannym <at> friendly-machines.com>
Subject: Re: bug#76998: Guix Home leaves user shepherd on logout, starts new
 instance on login
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:28:54 +0200

Hi,

Tomas Volf <~@wolfsden.cz> writes:

> Well, since you have mentioned the GnuPG as an example, we could just
> mirror what it does, and what I have suggested before.
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> $ mkdir /tmp/xxx && cd /tmp/xxx
> $ guix shell -u test -C findutils gnupg coreutils bash procps -- env HOME=/tmp/xxx GNUPGHOME=/tmp/xxx bash
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ gpg-agent --daemon
> gpg-agent[2]: directory '/tmp/xxx/private-keys-v1.d' created
> gpg-agent[3]: gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.4.7 started
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ find /run/user
> /run/user
> /run/user/1000
> /run/user/1000/gnupg
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.ssh
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.browser
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent.extra
> /run/user/1000/gnupg/d.j1yiifhhjrep9xunazyff54c/S.gpg-agent
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ ps aux
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> test         1  0.0  0.0   5136  4068 ?        S    13:32   0:00 bash
> test         3  0.0  0.0   5516  2400 ?        Ss   13:32   0:00 gpg-agent --daemon
> test         5  0.0  0.0   5224  3852 ?        R+   13:32   0:00 ps aux
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ rm -r /run/user/1000/gnupg
> gpg-agent[3]: socket file has been removed - shutting down
> gpg-agent[3]: gpg-agent (GnuPG) 2.4.7 stopped
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ find /run/user
> /run/user
> /run/user/1000
> test <at> xx ~ [env]$ ps aux
> USER       PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY      STAT START   TIME COMMAND
> test         1  0.0  0.0   5136  4068 ?        S    13:32   0:00 bash
> test         8  0.0  0.0   5224  3776 ?        R+   13:33   0:00 ps aux
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> So my suggestion is that when the socket is deleted, the shepherd
> process stops itself.

Brilliant!

The only downside is that it’ll be a bit of work (using inotify on Linux
and some other method elsewhere, presumably polling) but it definitely
sounds like a good plan.

I can look into it later it nobody beats me at it.

Ludo’.

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From: dannym <at> friendly-machines.com
To: Bug Guix <bug-guix <at> gnu.org>
Subject: user shepherd stays around with some zombies
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 20:10:36 +0100

Steps to reproduce:

1. Log into the console using your regular user
2. Log into GUI using your regular user
3. Log out of GUI
4. Switch to logged-in console
5. Run "px --tree" there
6. Observe the following:

shepherd(1)
  accounts-daemon(1110)
  avahi-daemon:(2443)
    avahi-daemon:(2446)
  bluetoothd(1026)
  colord(25587)
  cupsd(2440)
  dbus-daemon(769)
  dnsmasq(1845)
    dnsmasq(1846)
  earlyoom(744)
  elogind(1024)
  gdm(1038)
  guix-daemon(740)
  libvirtd(1023)
  login(26536)
    -bash(6739)
  mcron(747)
  mingetty... (5×)
  ModemManager(1276)
  NetworkManager(1256)
  nginx:(797)
    nginx:(798)
  nscd(2177)
  polkitd(1231)
  postgres(852)
    postgres:... (6×)
  rasdaemon(796)
  rpc.idmapd(2447)
  rpc.mountd(2501)
  rpc.statd(2444)
  rpcbind(2441)
  shepherd(6395) <--- also dannym
    [dbus-daemon](6397)
    [ssh-agent](6444)
    [xdg-permission-](6411)
    wireplumber(6399)
  shepherd(26114) <--- dannym
    dbus-daemon(6881)
    pipewire(6882)
    pipewire-pulse(6883)
    ssh-agent(6880)
    wireplumber(6888)
    xdg-permission-store(7259)
  udevd(330)
  upowerd(1025)
  virtlogd(742)
  wpa_supplicant(1045)

Those "[...]" with brackets mean that these processes were not reaped 
(so is defunct).

What the hell?

$ guix describe
Generation 194	Mar 13 2025 19:11:33	(current)
  guix 678b3dd
    repository URL: https://git.savannah.gnu.org/git/guix.git
    branch: master
    commit: 678b3dddfe442e643fe5cff7730d4f9690c3e2c2

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