From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 76935@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.174168440112099 (code B ref -1); Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:14:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 09:13:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41567 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trvfs-000392-AD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 05:13:20 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:46654) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trvfo-00038g-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 05:13:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1trvfZ-0002zw-9F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 05:13:01 -0400 Received: from udcm-wwu2.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.28]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1trvfT-0004HL-Ha for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 05:13:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1741684375; x=1773220375; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=2NqejRLhsw2nY4XE0Af4zl62DtF9nh+SaK/sGqc9olA=; b=SklR0iYMAURf+/LqOThPudncWuAZkog9G22y8/lTnxSm9a4BMVN3GDrF cztVvvOpOtcDNV84Tz769c1e+K9lloDoKluMykOfRmicnuBZyu9G6q27T wGiyc9VPCTlY0NDP1lPiwncGL0re5zvR/w8oe5nAlSlsGwOj1IeVU9hNA he0evKu4LEF1c5FmKArEZd4i0l8wlDz0VKBRgGdK73SNgvKAqGBkwpHmv kHGEZblJ3MlDB51lufKB1YWoARdi1CVubqKLtXWY/6Lu/RDamsLrsokZw KeKKlEg+MSM4ZGnp//zq9yx2OB0h2QAVlN+k80eRUJZabLVHN9drq1HN5 g==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: DMYXKTP6R0yDzovnh7PGhw== X-CSE-MsgGUID: /60XvysbQMiKqviDgX71nw== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.14,238,1736809200"; d="scan'208";a="349475924" Received: from wiwi-ex-1.wiwi.uni-muenster.de (HELO mail.wiwi.uni-muenster.de) ([10.2.21.33]) by UDCM-RELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 11 Mar 2025 10:12:48 +0100 Received: from D-3170L03 (128.176.63.9) by WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.44; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:48 +0100 From: Jens Lechtenboerger Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100 Message-ID: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [128.176.63.9] X-ClientProxiedBy: WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) To WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=128.176.118.28; envelope-from=Jens.Lechtenboerger@wi.uni-muenster.de; helo=UDCM-WWU2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE X-Spam_score_int: -42 X-Spam_score: -4.3 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Dear all, on Emacs master (see below for details), `default-frame-alist' does not seem to work any more. From emacs -Q, new frames (C-x 5 2) appear in small windows (dimensions are shown as 15x7 when I click on a window corner for resizing). After executing the following (from the doc string of `default-frame-alist'), nothing changes when creating new frames, new windows are still at 15x7: (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) Not sure when this is relevant: On the command line, I see the following message when creating new frames and when moving focus into them: (emacs:20227): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 10:05:43.824: gtk_distribute_natural_allocation: assertion 'extra_space >= 0' failed Best wishes, Jens In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 14, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-03-10 built on D-3170L03 Repository revision: 7a72589847107f26d0ebdc22f9cfa61962d02af4 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12302006 System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Configured using: 'configure --with-imagemagick' Configured features: ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GPM GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ IMAGEMAGICK JPEG LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBSELINUX LIBSYSTEMD LIBXML2 M17N_FLT MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINERAMA XINPUT2 XPM XRANDR GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t line-number-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color ring comp-run bytecomp byte-compile comp-common rx emacsbug lisp-mnt message mailcap yank-media puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml mml-sec password-cache epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util text-property-search time-date subr-x mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231 mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader cl-loaddefs cl-lib sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel term/x-win x-win term/common-win x-dnd touch-screen tool-bar dnd fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap hashtable-print-readable backquote threads dbusbind inotify lcms2 dynamic-setting system-font-setting font-render-setting cairo gtk x-toolkit xinput2 x multi-tty move-toolbar make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile emacs) Memory information: ((conses 16 67175 12991) (symbols 48 6827 2) (strings 32 17251 2527) (string-bytes 1 549419) (vectors 16 10683) (vector-slots 8 149522 8428) (floats 8 23 3) (intervals 56 283 26) (buffers 992 13)) From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jens Lechtenboerger Cc: 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.174169976529453 (code B ref 76935); Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 13:29:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42228 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trzfg-0007ey-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:29:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trzfc-0007ej-L2 for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:29:21 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1trzfU-0005uV-LV; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 09:29:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=coP5avjxbc/IaSXkKfSmRkIJLVrG1q8xoSiXSG+666I=; b=DD5+lX2CvqiX PebRp1UueUDGgiER9PHdmdqw6f1MuRgutwoVCjj2++LWKo/R3hvY1382U9owImfnO5tcwwJCDWFmd XzvYq75YVzfbeRjjA9NSCyfIWGTC193AX9OqDxEP5vqbAanSFdfv7bh6FLOIzwWUN/JFJaZya4MlR 7OB87aMTrSomysHy96FJtPJFVUSL5qJQ3lPWUCgx9r74XQI2U1mgykYdPDd57Hr1drsh85d97vS5F 5/01ZnjmJSBvxynEtOmMURsAmw8YYgGxZm9C/H7LEdEqwrbdnYyj46J3sYxh1yo4buPXMotoWEXWT 2MpQO81uZ9YXYJobdNnFSg==; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:29:07 +0200 Message-Id: <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> (message from Jens Lechtenboerger on Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100) References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Jens Lechtenboerger > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100 > > on Emacs master (see below for details), `default-frame-alist' does > not seem to work any more. From emacs -Q, new frames (C-x 5 2) > appear in small windows (dimensions are shown as 15x7 when I click > on a window corner for resizing). > > After executing the following (from the doc string of > `default-frame-alist'), nothing changes when creating new frames, > new windows are still at 15x7: > > (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) I cannot reproduce this. Maybe this is specific to GTK? From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.17417020056121 (code B ref 76935); Tue, 11 Mar 2025 14:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 14:06:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts0Fo-0001af-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:06:44 -0400 Received: from udcm-wwu1.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.7]:6445) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts0Fl-0001aR-PF for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:06:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1741702002; x=1773238002; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version; bh=0lCcuosJu/kIOh9314U0XJd2obweFDkYvXE7+37bhzI=; b=s5oRobh31OMie52FsRjIzkqBAiV0rEYpZAZBH05KE5+VYWU5hzNSi1PO QD9etVv+5MG/hPempDJvkTeDPMyQegwwMeKiksLEBCe4fyA25q9EIQzS9 xowsWK/3oxht/6m6lRm9yUc8yBw92cdJIAGDvpCoKteBWi8GlJIpGu7RT i+/IRPKmniwUqW7LrSLuQRyEZ6+YNtxZY9NkDbNLBGmG2f3sEmZ7egK5T xQvj0fhm4hdrREYYrSOsg+RadUW+viNTdD+FAgml7eufaYn+Zo0yAzZwV tBh/1fEsYwcrVCW/i3JGhW7sKdN67DWd1Dd4AZAH4DKtweHq3s3ixmIKB A==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: dR5XYrW4S2anjxVotbdnnw== X-CSE-MsgGUID: d8vza0LTRCWFJ8LH3/0k/A== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.14,239,1736809200"; d="scan'208";a="358903458" Received: from wiwi-ex-1.wiwi.uni-muenster.de (HELO mail.wiwi.uni-muenster.de) ([10.2.21.33]) by UDCM-RELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 11 Mar 2025 15:06:35 +0100 Received: from D-3170L03 (128.176.63.9) by WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.44; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:06:35 +0100 From: Jens Lechtenboerger In-Reply-To: <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:06:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [128.176.63.9] X-ClientProxiedBy: WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) To WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On 2025-03-11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Jens Lechtenboerger >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100 >> >> on Emacs master (see below for details), `default-frame-alist' does >> not seem to work any more. From emacs -Q, new frames (C-x 5 2) >> appear in small windows (dimensions are shown as 15x7 when I click >> on a window corner for resizing). >> >> After executing the following (from the doc string of >> `default-frame-alist'), nothing changes when creating new frames, >> new windows are still at 15x7: >> >> (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) > > I cannot reproduce this. Maybe this is specific to GTK? Indeed. With "./configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid" the problem does not arise. Best wishes, Jens From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jens Lechtenboerger , Po Lu , martin rudalics Cc: 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.174171291930833 (code B ref 76935); Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 17:08:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts35q-00081E-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:08:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts35l-00080z-1N for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:08:35 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ts35b-0000rD-Rv; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:08:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HOVmgjOSsq3rQuV0nyWC5F0qGK0oEtkruUf6dvBeorc=; b=g7Az36bbwkA9 crBrTSvSgkixDq0IrFynYfe/Zhsozo9/eKQsS/SxEZbxQsZzNh/Tkl1amsLo5K1SBhqxKWIz/uzSP og6x/bm0t0ZE5Foh589Pj+o+wryNinjo0CQXNL2GuyO7Rw+W4RR6s1awbrOJymRZxGQMCUy19pfoX RyweiNYt4r6siR2EasZmefvyxJsMzCn4myWAnyjtrI8LFACIPLC7ZryKA4KYzcXtNfqUOAFaiZTvD fkkF7yujiA8UqKZuTqWCqklIGWRutdt/PvyfzzbasboX3HkJ60OluFL4OxGCb+AeQ1wi5ZGzatA2z S7lq6D4/NaWiobjSIhfDXA==; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 19:08:19 +0200 Message-Id: <86ecz3bim4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> (message from Jens Lechtenboerger on Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:06:34 +0100) References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Jens Lechtenboerger > CC: <76935@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:06:34 +0100 > > On 2025-03-11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Jens Lechtenboerger > >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100 > >> > >> on Emacs master (see below for details), `default-frame-alist' does > >> not seem to work any more. From emacs -Q, new frames (C-x 5 2) > >> appear in small windows (dimensions are shown as 15x7 when I click > >> on a window corner for resizing). > >> > >> After executing the following (from the doc string of > >> `default-frame-alist'), nothing changes when creating new frames, > >> new windows are still at 15x7: > >> > >> (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) > > > > I cannot reproduce this. Maybe this is specific to GTK? > > Indeed. With "./configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid" the problem does > not arise. Martin and Po Lu, any ideas what could cause this? Some recent changes, perhaps? From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Po Lu , martin rudalics , 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.17417155156339 (code B ref 76935); Tue, 11 Mar 2025 17:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 17:51:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45481 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts3li-0001eB-Nz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:51:55 -0400 Received: from udcm-out2.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.23]:46330) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ts3le-0001dm-4H for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:51:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1741715511; x=1773251511; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version; bh=QsVrGBRKCoxljuKxOgd9vyASgkm752oGSdyaIvFCx+I=; b=imHYP7xTenGOgErsUFZ4AiMkt2YaUwve7/tcheIjyC80+GezcF9FhK5U nH+s1kzldGvoz6sZxvXPrpXJrCE4AJx2i8sGnxnWrbH6pmhfBTRB6uDc9 Ev3+ernpa6FOT/i5b5yjPkMtgZaz5pqoFkA84qVPXGxmhY9Z4OAAxx9Xe oDn5sZgTgARvfGfLCSLUn5Su1ybNDOCj54R8q7rmjNrrlnuIhzL5xAdI8 Liuy1GU6mjvg/SRfGVj+DKqdCxbB/hDEhYeECvPiQ0oDuLD/cwvQDfzII ecrvdLDETlBU+SMNEkdqJ+fwcIv1ZhISQVUsTCdqg8x4AtcNd8UeuRLxR g==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: 8Pe0Oyl6T3O1l+s1nnRKNA== X-CSE-MsgGUID: ivvbJJ1ZRfeRaDdimLeqRw== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.14,239,1736809200"; d="p7s'346?scan'346,208,346";a="349570540" Received: from wiwi-ex-1.wiwi.uni-muenster.de (HELO mail.wiwi.uni-muenster.de) ([10.2.21.33]) by UDCM-RELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 11 Mar 2025 18:51:44 +0100 Received: from D-3170L03 (128.176.63.9) by WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.44; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:51:43 +0100 From: Jens Lechtenboerger In-Reply-To: <86ecz3bim4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86ecz3bim4.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 18:51:42 +0100 Message-ID: <87ikofo3pt.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha384; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Originating-IP: [128.176.63.9] X-ClientProxiedBy: WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) To WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2025-03-11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Jens Lechtenboerger >> CC: <76935@debbugs.gnu.org> >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 15:06:34 +0100 >>=20 >> On 2025-03-11, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>=20 >> >> From: Jens Lechtenboerger >> >> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:12:47 +0100 >> >>=20 >> >> on Emacs master (see below for details), `default-frame-alist' does >> >> not seem to work any more. From emacs -Q, new frames (C-x 5 2) >> >> appear in small windows (dimensions are shown as 15x7 when I click >> >> on a window corner for resizing). >> >>=20 >> >> After executing the following (from the doc string of >> >> `default-frame-alist'), nothing changes when creating new frames, >> >> new windows are still at 15x7: >> >>=20 >> >> (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-line= s . 1))) >> > >> > I cannot reproduce this. Maybe this is specific to GTK? >>=20 >> Indeed. With "./configure --with-x-toolkit=3Dlucid" the problem does >> not arise. > > Martin and Po Lu, any ideas what could cause this? Some recent > changes, perhaps? One additional note: I did not only update Emacs but at the same time I updated Ubuntu from 20.04 to 24.04. 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debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) >>>> (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) I doubt it would change anything but why do you set 'menu-bar-lines'? >> With "./configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid" the problem does >> not arise. Is this with the GNOME desktop and the mutter window manager? If so, it sounds like Bug#73244 and Bug#72986. People seem to work around it by setting the frame size once more in 'after-make-frame-functions' sometimes even using a timer. BTW, does the initial frame have reasonable size? martin From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii , 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.17417687555740 (code B ref 76935); Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 08:39:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47235 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsHcR-0001UW-Ff for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:39:15 -0400 Received: from udcm-out2.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.23]:3069) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsHcP-0001UE-7H for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:39:13 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1741768753; x=1773304753; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version; bh=eHnY1m+z0YtK2YdOe59zjI0s6CdOC8BCi5AwsGL5lo0=; b=O7vSNHL6/Un7buoBwjEy15z8bVsROe40XZ+2q6/OuR2Pm8x/EOZOAnBb YgDSAzBAyXL8mNoAYKjIw0eppAleX8GbWjrJobhDq4g5jQmRZxt4i2g2T mqTGNGsaYQPSicUEPvS9vltlmJwe+0AHuYAkE116ceWTrKCuYU9YO9q1m yerF/8fUG+DU4GpBFvGYiXyrCr/MsA1SqEMXICEnJ4CvwGeSOvNSWtyAT Jr7D6FOOxROgbZS913oV+1mzcRxm6J7v7rRKPI5NyGKe2QmK9xV8VVEFb zfKLCiuHvyRzJtUG5CX3rIJDijm9zI+s9z1wcd4UN2KS4w8bSbcs0g8qw w==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: 9Y/UBVChTdWoGIBBgrvFVw== X-CSE-MsgGUID: 4XBrD+lFQWS6vp9IvSq2nw== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.14,241,1736809200"; d="p7s'346?scan'346,208,346";a="349620385" Received: from wiwi-ex-2.wiwi.uni-muenster.de (HELO mail.wiwi.uni-muenster.de) ([10.2.21.35]) by UDCM-RELAY2.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 12 Mar 2025 09:39:07 +0100 Received: from D-3170L03 (128.176.63.9) by WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.44; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:39:06 +0100 From: Jens Lechtenboerger In-Reply-To: <6d24d1fb-f364-4897-b9d5-3186a1fad982@gmx.at> References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86ecz3bim4.fsf@gnu.org> <6d24d1fb-f364-4897-b9d5-3186a1fad982@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:39:05 +0100 Message-ID: <87bju67idy.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=sha384; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" X-Originating-IP: [128.176.63.9] X-ClientProxiedBy: WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) To WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain On 2025-03-11, martin rudalics wrote: >>>>> (setq default-frame-alist '((width . 80) (height . 55) (menu-bar-lines . 1))) > > I doubt it would change anything but why do you set 'menu-bar-lines'? No particular reason, I just copied from the doc string. Correct, its presence or absence does not change anything. >>> With "./configure --with-x-toolkit=lucid" the problem does >>> not arise. > > Is this with the GNOME desktop and the mutter window manager? I did not change the default. My display manager is gdm3 with Xwayland. So, I guess: Yes. (I also see a process /usr/libexec/mutter-x11-frames.) > If so, it > sounds like Bug#73244 and Bug#72986. People seem to work around it by > setting the frame size once more in 'after-make-frame-functions' > sometimes even using a timer. BTW, does the initial frame have > reasonable size? Ah, yes, this seems to be Bug#73244. In fact, the dimensions from the doc string do not work: (defun resize-me (frame) (set-frame-size frame 80 55)) (add-hook 'after-make-frame-functions 'resize-me) I still get small frames/windows. Using (set-frame-size frame 80 54) does work, though. Yes, the initial frame is of reasonable size. 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X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Ah, yes, this seems to be Bug#73244. In fact, the dimensions from > the doc string do not work: But that was about specifying the frame size in .Xresources and below you say that "the initial frame is of reasonable size". Can you try setting the size in .Xresources? > (defun resize-me (frame) > (set-frame-size frame 80 55)) > > (add-hook 'after-make-frame-functions 'resize-me) > > I still get small frames/windows. > > Using (set-frame-size frame 80 54) does work, though. Remarkable. Can you try with a few other sizes? And what happens when you use the "54" in 'default-frame-alist'? > Yes, the initial frame is of reasonable size. Can you move the 'default-frame-alist' setting to an early-init.el file to find out whether it affects the initial size then? martin From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:50:56 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76935: 31.0.50; New frame ignores default-frame-alist Resent-From: Jens Lechtenboerger Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76935 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: Po Lu , Eli Zaretskii , 76935@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76935-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76935.174179750032515 (code B ref 76935); Wed, 12 Mar 2025 16:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 76935) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Mar 2025 16:38:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51459 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsP64-0008SM-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:38:20 -0400 Received: from udcm-out1.uni-muenster.de ([128.176.118.12]:15750) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsP61-0008S2-EA for 76935@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:38:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=uni-muenster.de; i=@uni-muenster.de; q=dns/txt; s=uniout; t=1741797498; x=1773333498; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date: message-id:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TnoxtC/fScvPfMfrLonSVLHUNrD1ztBVDfhZSvjTkdg=; b=A4f1kIuE/h8QrQdyyRE3mQhcZLoMYPl4D8QatPdIk37Vaxiyp0yJ4Ho4 kHb4BakWEwXRxPnIE9cW2Jn2wVbSzjjAWdrJk06EljhpAMHbXpm1+ApR9 hGUFgmaYpugXLktghh4jQmqjmL4iGdy/lg27CGslnXCX/M0B39RoqLRZg qqAHMWLsHe9whBpsZNK5rL4X6VWS9HXx6TBw3mi5ySLil2JrZ0uILZ7Zp s/UtQOyJQG+c2s1ufrr47ITFK4l9PSl1ABNtQY91zQ2Fb14IEHxMgvV4X o10SwJNZHcy7Q+bh7wkfzZI0kAWOrjo00AMD9e4tmUbMVVmutgOwXgSBS A==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: 0unHKLrERzC+vRtkcwZFVQ== X-CSE-MsgGUID: 6J0TpbuKT92dyVBYNrUHnA== X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="6.14,242,1736809200"; d="scan'208";a="359061293" Received: from wiwi-ex-1.wiwi.uni-muenster.de (HELO mail.wiwi.uni-muenster.de) ([10.2.21.33]) by UDCM-RELAY1.UNI-MUENSTER.DE with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256; 12 Mar 2025 17:38:11 +0100 Received: from D-3170L03 (128.176.63.9) by WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2507.44; Wed, 12 Mar 2025 17:38:10 +0100 From: Jens Lechtenboerger In-Reply-To: <694d4db3-3035-4346-b96b-2218465d3667@gmx.at> References: <87a59skk1c.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86v7sfbsrg.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmcv3bmd.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <86ecz3bim4.fsf@gnu.org> <6d24d1fb-f364-4897-b9d5-3186a1fad982@gmx.at> <87bju67idy.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> <694d4db3-3035-4346-b96b-2218465d3667@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 17:38:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87o6y65hn1.fsf@wi.uni-muenster.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [128.176.63.9] X-ClientProxiedBy: WIWI-EX-2.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.35) To WIWI-EX-1.WIWI.UNI-MUENSTER.DE (10.2.21.33) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 2025-03-12, martin rudalics wrote: >> Ah, yes, this seems to be Bug#73244. In fact, the dimensions from >> the doc string do not work: > > But that was about specifying the frame size in .Xresources and below > you say that "the initial frame is of reasonable size". Can you try > setting the size in .Xresources? Maybe I=E2=80=99m not doing that correctly but the following line in ~/.Xresources does not have an effect (xrdb -query shows the setting, though; using =E2=80=9C.=E2=80=9D instead =E2=80=9C*=E2=80=9D does= not work either):=20 Emacs*geometry: 80x40+0+0 >> (defun resize-me (frame) >> (set-frame-size frame 80 55)) >> >> (add-hook 'after-make-frame-functions 'resize-me) >> >> I still get small frames/windows. >> >> Using (set-frame-size frame 80 54) does work, though. > > Remarkable. Can you try with a few other sizes? Hmm. I cannot reproduce the issue with =E2=80=9C80 55=E2=80=9D any longer.= Will try again tomorrow. If I find something interesting I will report back. > And what happens when you use the "54" in 'default-frame-alist'? The new frame is still small. >> Yes, the initial frame is of reasonable size. > > Can you move the 'default-frame-alist' setting to an early-init.el file > to find out whether it affects the initial size then? Yes, that changes the initial frame (but it also does so in ~/.emacs). Subsequent frames are still small, though. Best wishes, Jens