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23.2; can't un-customize default-frame-alist

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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 23.2; can't un-customize default-frame-alist
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 11:07:22 -0900

  $ mkdir /tmp/x
  $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
  M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
  <delete both elements of the alist using the customize interface>
  <set and save changes>
  C-x C-c
  $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
  M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
  <note that the customizations /appear/ to be gone!>
  <press 'Erase Customizations'>
  
I get "Invalid Function: (menu-bar-lines . 1)"


In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.29)
 of 2010-05-08 on black.local
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038
configured using `configure  '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5''

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Message #8 received at 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7688: 23.2; can't un-customize default-frame-alist
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:40:08 -0400

Dave Abrahams wrote:

>   $ mkdir /tmp/x
>   $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
>   M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
>   <delete both elements of the alist using the customize interface>
>   <set and save changes>
>   C-x C-c
>   $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
>   M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
>   <note that the customizations /appear/ to be gone!>
>   <press 'Erase Customizations'>
>   
> I get "Invalid Function: (menu-bar-lines . 1)"

Can you try the current bzr trunk version of Emacs?
I think this might be fixed there, though I don't know what fixed it.

> In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.29)

Message #11 received at 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7688: 23.2; can't un-customize default-frame-alist
Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 17:19:53 -0400

At Wed, 25 May 2011 14:40:08 -0400,
Glenn Morris wrote:
> 
> Dave Abrahams wrote:
> 
> >   $ mkdir /tmp/x
> >   $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
> >   M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
> >   <delete both elements of the alist using the customize interface>
> >   <set and save changes>
> >   C-x C-c
> >   $ HOME=/tmp/x emacs
> >   M-x customize-variable default-frame-alist
> >   <note that the customizations /appear/ to be gone!>
> >   <press 'Erase Customizations'>
> >   
> > I get "Invalid Function: (menu-bar-lines . 1)"
> 
> Can you try the current bzr trunk version of Emacs?
> I think this might be fixed there, though I don't know what fixed it.

Still broken in emacs-23.3rc2

Not reproducible in the latest trunk, but that may be due to the fact
that the default for default-frame-alist has been changed to be empty,
so there's nothing to delete in the first place.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Message #14 received at 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>, 7688 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7688: 23.2; can't un-customize default-frame-alist
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 19:24:32 -0400

Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> writes:

>> Can you try the current bzr trunk version of Emacs?
>> I think this might be fixed there, though I don't know what fixed it.
>
> Still broken in emacs-23.3rc2
>
> Not reproducible in the latest trunk, but that may be due to the fact
> that the default for default-frame-alist has been changed to be empty,
> so there's nothing to delete in the first place.

ISTR that there was some subtle interaction between the frame code and
Custom that would lead to the original error; that was one of the
reasons I changed the handling of default-frame-alist for Emacs 24.
It's not feasible to fix for Emacs 23, so I'm going to close this bug;
if any new issues pop up, feel free to open a new one.

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