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31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist to view diff does not work

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From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist to view diff
 does not work
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 13:47:39 -0500

Hello. I have found that the fix from #75993 breaks the ?d action in
save-some-buffers-action-alist. The reason is that since we are not
entering view-mode after #75993, when we type ?q to quit the diff
window, we are not calling exit-recursive-edit to return to the
save-some-buffers queries.

So on one hand, we want to scroll through the diff easily to decide
whether to save the buffer or not. But on the other hand, we want to
navigate by the diff sections and copy hunks. To me, this is a model
editing situation. The user should exit view mode to perform diff
commands instead of disabling view-mode for diffs altogether like in
#75993.

But anyway, I propose that we revert #75993.

Sincerely,
StrawberryTea/LemonBreezes


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Message #8 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>, Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50;
 ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist to view diff does not work
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 21:36:48 +0200

> From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 13:47:39 -0500
> 
> 
> Hello. I have found that the fix from #75993 breaks the ?d action in
> save-some-buffers-action-alist. The reason is that since we are not
> entering view-mode after #75993, when we type ?q to quit the diff
> window, we are not calling exit-recursive-edit to return to the
> save-some-buffers queries.
> 
> So on one hand, we want to scroll through the diff easily to decide
> whether to save the buffer or not. But on the other hand, we want to
> navigate by the diff sections and copy hunks. To me, this is a model
> editing situation. The user should exit view mode to perform diff
> commands instead of disabling view-mode for diffs altogether like in
> #75993.
> 
> But anyway, I propose that we revert #75993.

Adding Juri to the discussion.

Message #11 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist
 to view diff does not work
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 09:58:10 +0200

> Hello. I have found that the fix from #75993 breaks the ?d action in
> save-some-buffers-action-alist. The reason is that since we are not
> entering view-mode after #75993, when we type ?q to quit the diff
> window, we are not calling exit-recursive-edit to return to the
> save-some-buffers queries.
>
> So on one hand, we want to scroll through the diff easily to decide
> whether to save the buffer or not. But on the other hand, we want to
> navigate by the diff sections and copy hunks. To me, this is a model
> editing situation. The user should exit view mode to perform diff
> commands instead of disabling view-mode for diffs altogether like in
> #75993.
>
> But anyway, I propose that we revert #75993.

Reverting will again steal single-letter keys from diff-mode to view-mode.

Why not change only 'save-some-buffers-action-alist' and replace

  (view-buffer diffbuf (lambda (_) (exit-recursive-edit)))

with

  (with-current-buffer diffbuf (view-mode-enter nil (lambda (_) (exit-recursive-edit))))

Message #14 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist
 to view diff does not work
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:58:33 -0400

Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net> writes:
Well, I agree that for save-some-buffers we should enter view-mode. But
I don't see why view-mode should be disabled for diff-mode in general.
Diff-mode is a major mode that is used for viewing diffs, it is not
specifically for save-some-buffers.

The key issue here is that diff-mode serves multiple purposes:

1. Sometimes diff buffers are purely for viewing (like in
   save-some-buffers), where the primary user need is quick navigation
   and an easy way to exit

2. Other times, users need to actively work with diff content -
   navigating by sections, copying hunks, applying patches, etc.

Disabling view-mode entirely for diff-mode (as in #75993) prioritizes
the second use case at the expense of the first. But I believe a better
approach is to maintain both capabilities and let users or calling
functions decide which mode is appropriate for their context.

For viewing-only situations like save-some-buffers, view-mode provides
valuable functionality - particularly the quick navigation keys and the
critical ability to exit with 'q' which triggers exit-recursive-edit in
this context.

Rather than disabling view-mode completely for diff-mode, we should
investigate why view-mode is being activated when you do not intend it
to be. If there are specific situations where view-mode interferes with
diff-mode functionality, we should consider either disabling view-mode
in those specific contexts or exiting view-mode in those situations,
rather than making a global change that affects all diff-mode usage.
>> Hello. I have found that the fix from #75993 breaks the ?d action in
>> save-some-buffers-action-alist. The reason is that since we are not
>> entering view-mode after #75993, when we type ?q to quit the diff
>> window, we are not calling exit-recursive-edit to return to the
>> save-some-buffers queries.
>>
>> So on one hand, we want to scroll through the diff easily to decide
>> whether to save the buffer or not. But on the other hand, we want to
>> navigate by the diff sections and copy hunks. To me, this is a model
>> editing situation. The user should exit view mode to perform diff
>> commands instead of disabling view-mode for diffs altogether like in
>> #75993.
>>
>> But anyway, I propose that we revert #75993.
>
> Reverting will again steal single-letter keys from diff-mode to view-mode.
>
> Why not change only 'save-some-buffers-action-alist' and replace
>
>   (view-buffer diffbuf (lambda (_) (exit-recursive-edit)))
>
> with
>
>   (with-current-buffer diffbuf (view-mode-enter nil (lambda (_) (exit-recursive-edit))))

Message #17 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist
 to view diff does not work
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:53:30 +0200

> Well, I agree that for save-some-buffers we should enter view-mode. But
> I don't see why view-mode should be disabled for diff-mode in general.

Because view-mode overrides diff-mode single letter keybindings:

  "n" #'diff-hunk-next
  "N" #'diff-file-next
  "p" #'diff-hunk-prev
  "P" #'diff-file-prev
  "k" #'diff-hunk-kill
  "K" #'diff-file-kill
  "}" #'diff-file-next
  "{" #'diff-file-prev
  "RET" #'diff-goto-source
  "W" #'widen
  "w" #'diff-kill-ring-save
  "o" #'diff-goto-source
  "A" #'diff-ediff-patch
  "r" #'diff-restrict-view
  "R" #'diff-reverse-direction

> The key issue here is that diff-mode serves multiple purposes:
>
> 1. Sometimes diff buffers are purely for viewing (like in
>    save-some-buffers), where the primary user need is quick navigation
>    and an easy way to exit

I think save-some-buffers is a special case that can be handled specially
in save-some-buffers to enable view-mode explicitly.

> 2. Other times, users need to actively work with diff content -
>    navigating by sections, copying hunks, applying patches, etc.

Such actions as navigating by sections and copying hunks
often needed also while viewing diffs.

> Disabling view-mode entirely for diff-mode (as in #75993) prioritizes
> the second use case at the expense of the first. But I believe a better
> approach is to maintain both capabilities and let users or calling
> functions decide which mode is appropriate for their context.

Users can decide whether to enable view-mode by e.g.

  (add-hook 'diff-mode 'view-mode-enter)

And the caller in 'save-some-buffers' can enable it too.

> For viewing-only situations like save-some-buffers, view-mode provides
> valuable functionality - particularly the quick navigation keys and the
> critical ability to exit with 'q' which triggers exit-recursive-edit in
> this context.

The required functionality from view-mode in this case is only 'q'
to trigger exit-recursive-edit.

> Rather than disabling view-mode completely for diff-mode, we should
> investigate why view-mode is being activated when you do not intend it
> to be. If there are specific situations where view-mode interferes with
> diff-mode functionality, we should consider either disabling view-mode
> in those specific contexts or exiting view-mode in those situations,
> rather than making a global change that affects all diff-mode usage.

view-mode does more harm than good to diff-mode.  So I think
it should be opt-in, not opt-out.

Even with 'view-read-only' customized to t, no one asked to enable view-mode
for the most frequent use case of showing diffs from vc-diff where
view-mode was never activated, because it's activated only for files.

Message #20 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
To: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist
 to view diff does not work
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 20:14:08 -0400

Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net> writes:

Well, let's do this then. Patch something in so that save-some-buffers
"d" key lets us do "q" to exit the diff buffer. I still disagree because
view-mode is supported by Evil etc but if we do like a local-set-key or
something, it will probably break other packages that don't handle this
very special case of save-some-buffers.

>> Well, I agree that for save-some-buffers we should enter view-mode. But
>> I don't see why view-mode should be disabled for diff-mode in general.
>
> Because view-mode overrides diff-mode single letter keybindings:
>
>   "n" #'diff-hunk-next
>   "N" #'diff-file-next
>   "p" #'diff-hunk-prev
>   "P" #'diff-file-prev
>   "k" #'diff-hunk-kill
>   "K" #'diff-file-kill
>   "}" #'diff-file-next
>   "{" #'diff-file-prev
>   "RET" #'diff-goto-source
>   "W" #'widen
>   "w" #'diff-kill-ring-save
>   "o" #'diff-goto-source
>   "A" #'diff-ediff-patch
>   "r" #'diff-restrict-view
>   "R" #'diff-reverse-direction
>
>> The key issue here is that diff-mode serves multiple purposes:
>>
>> 1. Sometimes diff buffers are purely for viewing (like in
>>    save-some-buffers), where the primary user need is quick navigation
>>    and an easy way to exit
>
> I think save-some-buffers is a special case that can be handled specially
> in save-some-buffers to enable view-mode explicitly.
>
>> 2. Other times, users need to actively work with diff content -
>>    navigating by sections, copying hunks, applying patches, etc.
>
> Such actions as navigating by sections and copying hunks
> often needed also while viewing diffs.
>
>> Disabling view-mode entirely for diff-mode (as in #75993) prioritizes
>> the second use case at the expense of the first. But I believe a better
>> approach is to maintain both capabilities and let users or calling
>> functions decide which mode is appropriate for their context.
>
> Users can decide whether to enable view-mode by e.g.
>
>   (add-hook 'diff-mode 'view-mode-enter)
>
> And the caller in 'save-some-buffers' can enable it too.
>
>> For viewing-only situations like save-some-buffers, view-mode provides
>> valuable functionality - particularly the quick navigation keys and the
>> critical ability to exit with 'q' which triggers exit-recursive-edit in
>> this context.
>
> The required functionality from view-mode in this case is only 'q'
> to trigger exit-recursive-edit.
>
>> Rather than disabling view-mode completely for diff-mode, we should
>> investigate why view-mode is being activated when you do not intend it
>> to be. If there are specific situations where view-mode interferes with
>> diff-mode functionality, we should consider either disabling view-mode
>> in those specific contexts or exiting view-mode in those situations,
>> rather than making a global change that affects all diff-mode usage.
>
> view-mode does more harm than good to diff-mode.  So I think
> it should be opt-in, not opt-out.
>
> Even with 'view-read-only' customized to t, no one asked to enable view-mode
> for the most frequent use case of showing diffs from vc-diff where
> view-mode was never activated, because it's activated only for files.

Message #23 received at 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Juri Linkov <juri <at> linkov.net>
To: StrawberryTea <look <at> strawberrytea.xyz>
Cc: 76745 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#76745: 31.0.50; ?d action in save-some-buffers-action-alist
 to view diff does not work
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 21:09:24 +0200

close 76745 31.0.50
thanks

> Well, let's do this then. Patch something in so that save-some-buffers
> "d" key lets us do "q" to exit the diff buffer. I still disagree because
> view-mode is supported by Evil etc but if we do like a local-set-key or
> something, it will probably break other packages that don't handle this
> very special case of save-some-buffers.

After more analysis I found that this problem is not specific to diff-mode.
For example, hexl-mode also has

  (put 'hexl-mode 'mode-class 'special)

Then in a file with 'hexl-mode' after typing 'C-x s C-r q' nothing happens,
no exit from recursive-edit.  Because 'C-r' in 'save-some-buffers-action-alist'
relies on the same unreliable trick:

  (view-buffer buf (lambda (_) (exit-recursive-edit)))

So now both cases are fixed in 'save-some-buffers-action-alist'.

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