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Tue, 4 Mar 2025 06:36:10 -0500 (EST) From: =?utf-8?Q?Rudolf_Adamkovi=C4=8D?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:36:08 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=202.12.124.156; envelope-from=rudolf@adamkovic.org; helo=fhigh-b5-smtp.messagingengine.com X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) REPRODUCTION: 1. start `emacs -Q' 2. eval `(setq register-use-preview 'never)' 3. type "foo", highlight it, and type `C-x r s a' 4. type "bar", highlight it, and type `C-x r s' 5. wait one second EXPECTED: no preview shows ACTUAL: preview shows NOTES: The preview shows on `C-x r i' as well. Is the `register-use-preview' variable supposed to control its preview as well? If so, then the variable should not be documented as "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." ^^^^^^^^^^^^ instead of "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers. 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previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: ("Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi?= =?utf-8?Q?=C4=8D=22's?= message of "Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:36:08 +0100") References: Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 15:16:30 +0000 Message-ID: <87wmd47rn5.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.3 (----) Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D writes: > REPRODUCTION: > > 1. start `emacs -Q' > 2. eval `(setq register-use-preview 'never)' Do not use setq to configure this. --=20 Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 04 10:14:38 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2025 15:14:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60392 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpTyf-0001IK-Ep for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:14:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56672) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpTyV-0001Hr-Vi for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:14:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tpTyP-0004e8-EC; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 10:14:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IGTAdmng8qZt7vTF0mqymSZbDe8ckhk3kilFGOqiMpA=; b=qZHoYNJFHH90ckJm2ocd vmrJhnyvITrJswBZHlTz/4PuOZ/ccP+unyNiZm3DVZCZBmLY7e6Bd4DbGo/oq1BziUHPfL+PgxaZa 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X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rudolf Adamkovič > Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:36:08 +0100 > > > REPRODUCTION: > > 1. start `emacs -Q' > 2. eval `(setq register-use-preview 'never)' > 3. type "foo", highlight it, and type `C-x r s a' > 4. type "bar", highlight it, and type `C-x r s' > 5. wait one second > > EXPECTED: > > no preview shows > > ACTUAL: > > preview shows > > NOTES: > > The preview shows on `C-x r i' as well. Is the `register-use-preview' > variable supposed to control its preview as well? If so, then the > variable should not be documented as > > "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > instead of > > "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." > > because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers. Thierry, could you please look into this? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 04 12:40:04 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2025 17:40:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60731 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpWFP-0003Lq-MM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:40:04 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:57409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpWFF-0003L3-NS for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:39:59 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35E17240028 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:39:44 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741109986; bh=+VtlBaMSPbxBzh46IyupcJ7aNDyai99uu6ve+qCMn0A=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=oxZqn+tfsQTuIGrfkAxRzpoh5GMuh3GkJS5YuwP8manpa09hgIFZr8l+tb8eBBow0 N4ABkkxCsqLnKaeQBlCKk+dzwvc9+4n8XvuPSle8F1rbInV3HzHljWKnG0dV9IXU9U 2iHc/ZUwCCy+iU1ISZWxuF84cBx0SaLigtnK8uxNslY/YTLm/G+rBWeT7ACne7d+GK NMgikPxQCGpqK4ETgr7c3tGPiL8Dur1qV6UL8eowTVl8IZYs51ybfA+Yv43F9EpURg 7Uh/iAokHdGL7Oh3Ewp9VDzNV45Y8RY/CmAnLSbCiyTWYc0fdA5pfYHcNEg3Jr4hMv 4cUpprMrHGhgQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z6jcG6W8Hz6tsg; Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:39:42 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 04 Mar 2025 17:14:05 +0200") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 17:46:59 +0000 Message-ID: <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= , 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D >> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 12:36:08 +0100 >>=20 >>=20 >> REPRODUCTION: >>=20 >> 1. start `emacs -Q' >> 2. eval `(setq register-use-preview 'never)' >> 3. type "foo", highlight it, and type `C-x r s a' >> 4. type "bar", highlight it, and type `C-x r s' >> 5. wait one second >>=20 >> EXPECTED: >>=20 >> no preview shows >>=20 >> ACTUAL: >>=20 >> preview shows >>=20 >> NOTES: >>=20 >> The preview shows on `C-x r i' as well. Is the `register-use-preview' >> variable supposed to control its preview as well? If so, then the >> variable should not be documented as >>=20 >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> instead of >>=20 >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." >>=20 >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers. > > Thierry, could you please look into this? Yes, I already replied, the problem is if one set this variable with setq, the defcustom has a :set function. So from emacs -Q here: (customize-set-variable 'register-use-preview 'never) Then do 3) and 4) from the recipe above. 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Yes, I saw it too late, thanks. > So from emacs -Q here: > > (customize-set-variable 'register-use-preview 'never) > > Then do 3) and 4) from the recipe above. > > No preview, as expected. Right. I've already updated the doc string to say using setq is not effective, so maybe this is all that's needed here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 05 01:46:32 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2025 06:46:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpiWV-0000DD-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 01:46:32 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:35441) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpiWR-0000Co-RI for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 01:46:30 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28821240101 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:46:21 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741157181; bh=zTFtQoOrtMyz1xwRfBcAobqoz2/q8xbnW4DkdRjJU1s=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=ngAnWOgg00/6r3cCOwOfuAlcvsJq9s2ybGoiYwzeT6sExBr9HgTSMJ+i7TtxPUmHj wOefirVtLfcwtiZUdu1zBRbkA21qksj2itaWIq9gLJG18lOR1omwPXGCRlP8rE/Us2 R+Z2BprR0cZdV1Zz90RNlJHHi/Uqc4FJUpt8VFji9yDt0riT9PYMODhN6srJ7Ts/mR Cb8CudjXD6iVadl5OZgy4zoOD6e8MCPfD7Gl4ywT3XebMvxXb9tBfSlY0tuVHy1UQS CzC3mhsAytN4Yia8jWV8KSn8zGulHauFfU/X5ZV5G/P4EkYXfh9X9os8+or8fq0+QS 9ZKWVIQBZZB8w== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z733t72cdz6v0J; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 07:46:18 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 04 Mar 2025 20:28:11 +0200") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 06:53:35 +0000 Message-ID: <87cyew6k9c.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> Cc: Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D , Thierry >> Volpiatto >> , 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 17:46:59 +0000 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> > Thierry, could you please look into this? >>=20 >> Yes, I already replied, the problem is if one set this variable with >> setq, the defcustom has a :set function. > > Yes, I saw it too late, thanks. > >> So from emacs -Q here: >>=20 >> (customize-set-variable 'register-use-preview 'never) >>=20 >> Then do 3) and 4) from the recipe above. >>=20 >> No preview, as expected. > > Right. I've already updated the doc string to say using setq is not > effective, so maybe this is all that's needed here. Yes, for this it should be enough, however there is a little bug when using never and trying to do C-h, the minibuffer exit with "No register specified", which is wrong, the preview should popup with full capabilities, here the needed changes: diff --git a/lisp/register.el b/lisp/register.el index 0e9d5676943..cb6d90d6a05 100644 =2D-- a/lisp/register.el +++ b/lisp/register.el @@ -579,7 +579,9 @@ or \\=3D'never." (setq pat input)))) (if (setq win (get-buffer-window buffer)) (with-selected-window win =2D (when noconfirm + (when (or (eq noconfirm t) ; Using insist + ;; Don't exit when noconfirm =3D=3D (neve= r) + (memq nil noconfirm)) ;; Happen only when ;; *-use-preview =3D=3D insist. 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I've already updated the doc string to say using setq is not > > effective, so maybe this is all that's needed here. > > Yes, for this it should be enough, however there is a little bug when > using never and trying to do C-h, the minibuffer exit with "No register > specified", which is wrong, the preview should popup with full > capabilities, here the needed changes: Thanks, please install on the emacs-30 branch. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 05 08:30:22 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2025 13:30:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpopJ-0002YS-Go for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:30:22 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:37501) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tpopG-000221-NM for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:30:19 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F09B5240028 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 14:30:10 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741181410; bh=IYLfOBmlPIQ6Kjlx2pi+JiQLKXbwn0szYWKH1ta8Qu0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=I7b6wE6tqjKtgdj5+7Qk5mQGf+92hYR0eS3lZYg32mc/uscRxe6Z7PpnsmaisKJT/ SkBusKa4xXgTxfnUSTi+ONhjQytuB6Coo+WhRjEhEePcRkRdLJSRN1R9rHOqrYkACe YMaNPQ4DCobWoTnMfFgN4x47jKRCasoeWJQdP8Lu7Qa4USEMYyvW2y2aAgQc3xvhLy nEaWJAuGEBWuWcSAs5tS8jMvpu/nfurD+nfPQy7kIun+NNgNCf6IAUfL19ls7S203j InMM/Cm6Q8B9gytWndYKCsQ4KBZ/SqninLuWXSt4qQG5gu6mc+oAd8sleup5MIHDxb I/qoASVJn7xlw== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z7D1r0VxDz6txq; Wed, 5 Mar 2025 14:30:07 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <86ldtjptvd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2025 14:03:18 +0200") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyew6k9c.fsf@posteo.net> <86ldtjptvd.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 13:37:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87bjufa99o.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, >> 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 06:53:35 +0000 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> >> Cc: Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D , Thierry >> >> Volpiatto >> >> , 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2025 17:46:59 +0000 >> >>=20 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >>=20 >> >> > Thierry, could you please look into this? >> >>=20 >> >> Yes, I already replied, the problem is if one set this variable with >> >> setq, the defcustom has a :set function. >> > >> > Yes, I saw it too late, thanks. >> > >> >> So from emacs -Q here: >> >>=20 >> >> (customize-set-variable 'register-use-preview 'never) >> >>=20 >> >> Then do 3) and 4) from the recipe above. >> >>=20 >> >> No preview, as expected. >> > >> > Right. I've already updated the doc string to say using setq is not >> > effective, so maybe this is all that's needed here. >>=20 >> Yes, for this it should be enough, however there is a little bug when >> using never and trying to do C-h, the minibuffer exit with "No register >> specified", which is wrong, the preview should popup with full >> capabilities, here the needed changes: > > Thanks, please install on the emacs-30 branch. 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Fri, 7 Mar 2025 20:32:01 -0500 (EST) From: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= To: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 02:32:00 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: You did not correct the description, which should say > "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > instead of > > "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." > > because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers [I just re-tested with `customize-set-variable' and the setting pertains to `C-x r i' as well, so the wording above needs corrected.] P.S. This is not theoretical: When I was figuring out the way to change the behavior of `C-x r i', I found and *ignored* this variable, as it said "when modifying". I thought to myself: "These folks are precise with their words, so there must be some other variable." :) Rudy --=20 "Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration." --- Thomas Alva Edison, 1932 Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D [he/him] http://adamkovic.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 01:06:43 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 06:06:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqnKc-00015r-Ob for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:06:43 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:52549) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqnKa-00015Z-Fy for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 01:06:41 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AE7C0240027 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 07:06:33 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741413993; bh=HeILW4m+vjzkWl0PXC6Z++Ey2ZPG1djqfVykjhK1Rms=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=Mr09EsMGQSgen3JR4mmQYesrs6QyibSOt1DjLRK8ucq0uKeRAM94wF6VZqLU+luDA j06gRYySQpCeHa4lE7wtj/IvINhPhs2IwO7AWnK1tRthi5famvDq3YA8dsa5KtHk0E ORdtZ29cejt49aQ/b6GaQmriDmxFIDpJi12m4ocgX5kQMGAOQmwDRhadg8KCodkjMK xi7zktgFuQUSQJvotghopl76ir4q/3+r2IVEWQ4yUn/AauV5WHhrt3sw2k8v9q6/sR TWTUCnHMjBIkTrcxbcGOvIMSeGnAGL2J7cwQf2vZ4qevU5vVSxHyYtyv5fEqiCQSTd ZEzPWPIkDyz4Q== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z8t2c2Wx9z6tvd; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 07:06:32 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: ("Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi?= =?utf-8?Q?=C4=8D=22's?= message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2025 02:32:00 +0100") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000 Message-ID: <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , Eli Zaretskii , 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > You did not correct the description, which should say > >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> instead of >> >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." >> >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers Perhaps using: "Whether to show register preview when using registers." ? Don't know what the best wording would be, Eli WDYT? PS: You can also disable preview without touching the default value of register-use-preview (keeping traditional) by modifying the value of register-preview-delay. =2D-=20 Thierry --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHHBAEBCgAxFiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAmfL4CATHHRoaWV2b2xA cG9zdGVvLm5ldAAKCRAOxW0UHRbvk9VcDACINjBpHN3liy2G/JjHQLntHsOZQrTZ LM6MOf4kZ0dVBvzCSuFZPV6d0wRckmH95fKwaZ0devAN9J8OowmstGcGlO7HDZir xq7qUkmxeDlbYhq7KYixQXfEY7idvk3chkBI+0AKZ9F3NqkFoxyBhs6QbQu8U8f5 tfAA2LH0J34v0Jxj0odjlCsItfmn2poXdj21h9ArsiVLJpJyNHbiTxcL7Oe150zj KwPsecv3AQ5+LdSuaW/7sFcS7l7iNqBRwGoAaAD4hmMv4rar8axsklVFZeK4/y0i 7Imcr1wBUbnqYybQGiaG9NXxfgR5pfYmxlM7/Yf+96QXLmJsmt6bHoIu4eDAgKCI 8Kp3mUJybCsRXMnthQrfxepOH6W/FqGp1gUaYSlvdgBIOapnuoduQ3sCqWJO0RqH KcqtcWYG6xxLfBjZuPvUj7cf+CynpSxugWtCFCeWNBPyi4dYDSy16Dyr1WHdeWcs oQwXk7Yv7D/NjWAEYWnPZL64YpjoMVeTr4Y= =rd11 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 06:05:07 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 11:05:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqrzP-0003ak-Ci for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:05:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqrzN-0003a0-0s for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:05:06 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tqrzH-0001ne-FN; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:04:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=G+lOBuR3p5z/nJBwWRCfY8GRqemf8HWbnKsHH3QoqsM=; b=EkgVEa5Ib4qTCuCFrtdP hJysQPxj0W3MjosqbpvAR4bgvN4saaUXIbUCY4Nf5UlTWWjO4Mzvsv7Us/BluPcYDclhR/JiH08WG KMCcyprKCy9RhtGXYGp5YpPNb9ttKP3vJ5ctjNyoD9a/OQ97e8zm7nmk5QxJprsuyPbU4/zfX6Ltd YfW6cunn+r8DMnAVbYVXUUZCC2/Zu+zJADToTu8T+Uy5lnZ5LP+JJ51IXNSxX3zMmBUagvROEt1v7 ftGYkoU+X0oVLF8d8krye9Sby8N+28I/iwXg8LNs1LQKlX8mYDCSiFkScAzKxoLKqMv0DOJqIfoFN TJUM8m15nxOSgg==; Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 13:04:57 +0200 Message-Id: <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thierry Volpiatto In-Reply-To: <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Thierry Volpiatto on Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Thierry Volpiatto > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto , > 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000 > > Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > You did not correct the description, which should say > > > >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." > >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> instead of > >> > >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." > >> > >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers > > Perhaps using: > > "Whether to show register preview when using registers." ? > > Don't know what the best wording would be, Eli WDYT? Which register-related commands are _not_ supposed to show the preview? Knowing that will allow to decide which wording will be appropriate here. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 06:46:07 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 11:46:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53177 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqsd5-0005n4-Dc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:46:07 -0500 Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:49215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqsd2-0005mQ-5l for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:46:05 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F8DC240101 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 12:45:55 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741434356; bh=x9RtGP7vw8HnbhyF4LCdr92qII/qil/C9U7ZARz/148=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=F0QuwP/eI65POHnJ2FAOL9GoimcALBlAXoi+DB2x7iKPNLfMGvE7Wuaf854OkOWim 2QEIl1Ow54/zO8MdIWtSP9hZ7b5z18REZ28f/Rtquj3Axt4NA/v+OBdfcRNslOU+Oh +hYDPKLLOCcVRNae+LshQKTIM3l48VrOiNmyMcguj8y1M0pKtaA/tnDJky6F1uT4bk O+6CpJJzSMvB4Hwjp9298qPwVNR0W3tdvXFRsCxxywdISoulqGE5HmzLWn7eXyom+s jiqgfpH2gycWD1t2WVQBNtIDIDtAtCBpzbejNMDJSfZERpvo8hGV/DvV9eXng+uusL +aDdfldZXm7Cg== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z91Z93vTzz9rxF; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 12:45:53 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2025 13:04:57 +0200") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 11:53:13 +0000 Message-ID: <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto , >> 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000 >>=20 >> Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D writes: >>=20 >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > >> > You did not correct the description, which should say >> > >> >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> instead of >> >> >> >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." >> >> >> >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers >>=20 >> Perhaps using: >>=20 >> "Whether to show register preview when using registers." ? >>=20 >> Don't know what the best wording would be, Eli WDYT? > > Which register-related commands are _not_ supposed to show the > preview? Knowing that will allow to decide which wording will be > appropriate here. All register commands use preview AFAIK. =2D-=20 Thierry --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHHBAEBCgAxFiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAmfML6kTHHRoaWV2b2xA cG9zdGVvLm5ldAAKCRAOxW0UHRbvk1nzDADFabY8z0NE0GIbEINwtZhrB/eFVZS7 uwYX33KFK8ClAQFSh9zsnnPJtEjE/lIDsGO8CW/KIyqOdj7ywg+9Kr6vNiw9drda hmUsaAQeT8oSLqi/Tr3oGXIrBSEP4i4o3DAYERbZcePNRj8XZUw6iuctGvFNh6/0 cFrMEIhFCrRVLz3XDiD+b62h+SDA3lYaHlmGSqSq/F/h1kHdgvbRNLwmWKWPfPpt fWyXQr2f9rrR95OLQC4e95J+AvWyBUxVVv/WvWxRT0iOyjYKTD+gE6eDUs6sXtJ/ KnNTOBkF8IyueKSCOsNo2QfBBGguPKJoF84ydOfYjigQ72xBy86ZVr/85fZJ/ROV sNcCHgG2qSj85Dxdv/bb7cTdjO5ZeHjmpF+/qoLb61Vet1FQ+38v8c9g32h0zETZ 3X4hs8N8W9nR4zrVqhwBQPTPPn2pN6zNba5029I4CsIBVDFYTzsKW1xVYVAcfLOD olXUQzEkF5noWiFZW4REBmNCLE+wywlLZuo= =6/Kw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 08:04:18 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 13:04:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53288 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqtqj-0004Ed-FF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:04:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54032) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqtqf-0004EJ-Qt for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:04:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tqtqa-0005S8-22; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 08:04:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=0tSBmnr/mNIpGd+h0+klnPslta6kXexqsQzvJtnn5nY=; b=OCN+zarmmwrfz8MAp4lU 1di5Ni6lI/rIsHQTEC5L4gXRWfNOpXntpQcDZ16fwkSldI9B7Fw6bEJFNQaaTzRJ+TzCVifbcSWoe TdSM9nfAS6qTVsq9dizToDthec0XloLfUR7ctFPMahPYkJIsdsFX9tP+b7LkE8HiDIzAzn4cgwGE1 wbe9Yc3tAc7lsvpvyyd0qadfZKaFTcf5HwpMKGFHuonnQsqawkcCBFEbwZKlS0nT6eRC0psTAMVOH R3rnGn6/IRunLUeI9ZViwbd+p+oTs/pp1ac5M9GWJPO/sztyArqzlwNsTjUSmPHdvGWTY+knI0475 EZY057abmZAkdg==; Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 15:04:05 +0200 Message-Id: <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thierry Volpiatto In-Reply-To: <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Thierry Volpiatto on Sat, 08 Mar 2025 11:53:13 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Thierry Volpiatto > Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, > 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 11:53:13 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Thierry Volpiatto > >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto , > >> 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000 > >> > >> Rudolf Adamkovič writes: > >> > >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > > >> > You did not correct the description, which should say > >> > > >> >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." > >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >> >> instead of > >> >> > >> >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." > >> >> > >> >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers > >> > >> Perhaps using: > >> > >> "Whether to show register preview when using registers." ? > >> > >> Don't know what the best wording would be, Eli WDYT? > > > > Which register-related commands are _not_ supposed to show the > > preview? Knowing that will allow to decide which wording will be > > appropriate here. > > All register commands use preview AFAIK. Then I think this will be clearer: Whether register commands should show preview of registers that have values. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 12:03:30 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 17:03:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56482 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqxaE-0006aS-Bd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 12:03:30 -0500 Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:36459) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tqxaA-0006aA-Ok for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 12:03:28 -0500 Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6C91240028 for <76739@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:03:20 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1741453400; bh=Qlz1Z9ZwwkcN2eNXiYoEP5aNlFiPAjv8WrPd45Ct1Uo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=LKw2L+ityTYY2uZ8YTvPY/qE8fGAzBZQHe8vLK+9iGbHc9dR2d8rdAbz5pPhR1n3n rBt8NGIaKo2QX4Q+an1gwo0NmCJTriACnFeE2rVDebLxlZZd39YZokYT5xtrhAibIK gyG/zeaxh9A+yimBXxx2Q+M0xuLRXaiDNFCBdUk5IqL85TfbH5SKdNzYiH4Exiw1gn R9pr1HnJ7pgINLu/3yv5M2wj5lpNvQT7iIO1nqf2SIZaZCfcr7MpofQ8wb4VZkGmpm /ztZZoXbu9WlhqwR/JaM5lVlZxUBo8ct5jrZoJA9Avbho8SIggaQjJBLIuZqjZcuN2 VqAQe+NwCMOrQ== Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Z98cQ3b0dz6twM; Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:03:18 +0100 (CET) From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2025 15:04:05 +0200") References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 17:10:38 +0000 Message-ID: <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, >> 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 11:53:13 +0000 >>=20 >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> >> From: Thierry Volpiatto >> >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto , >> >> 76739@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 06:13:52 +0000 >> >>=20 >> >> Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D writes: >> >>=20 >> >> > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > >> >> > You did not correct the description, which should say >> >> > >> >> >> "Whether to show register preview when manipulating registers." >> >> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >> >> >> instead of >> >> >> >> >> >> "Whether to show register preview when modifying registers." >> >> >> >> >> >> because `C-x r i' does not modify any registers >> >>=20 >> >> Perhaps using: >> >>=20 >> >> "Whether to show register preview when using registers." ? >> >>=20 >> >> Don't know what the best wording would be, Eli WDYT? >> > >> > Which register-related commands are _not_ supposed to show the >> > preview? Knowing that will allow to decide which wording will be >> > appropriate here. >>=20 >> All register commands use preview AFAIK. > > Then I think this will be clearer: > > Whether register commands should show preview of registers that have va= lues. Yes, nice, thanks. Do you want me to commit this change or you do it? =2D-=20 Thierry --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQHHBAEBCgAxFiEEI9twfRN7r3nig/xwDsVtFB0W75MFAmfMeg4THHRoaWV2b2xA cG9zdGVvLm5ldAAKCRAOxW0UHRbvkwE9C/4n+8m1u5yyQ97guHrjaYNBcJvoKXHj a8ms/0ZvO8r6uqXDpyHxD8L21PxrGx+1qewlNA3YX+JLSwLyWgY6WybBr1PwRm9H SwiKAaJHy+w8gt0cpCGnpZ9/ZTuFLb3NrurV6rB4aGqlb/EmWr+nW/iStRlY32pY Eov+cAH2/Aka0wyjXu0P/Y55MqIDayZOWdfoEFRegFLJrXD+grRYrLpv8JzEjuPW 5EORIXdee9N2RmvjHrN/Ko83jXQXWViMkOVi8uz4Zk0YVC/Z+trIUcUb/H0APP2e KpWZkRhO9q3S/7k9gFMWOLHVNmngEO6Kl3jWKT4F1sOboNkUvzM99ez1ET22h7jl zZnGm5h08YGxhBWicWVeS38D9jViph5yjMR93PAWYJHAEQ1Y11Fx/PSRLbGRv9k1 nj98KExEXJpSCk0Odt3EF14b7ShS46ausDYoBHM7CzSsRQ+3MmOBfkfIbJK4nmm4 3nJwbcx3OmbERUGfQ9ZgB9WtXm6w1wChlos= =b0Gz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Mar 08 14:40:25 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2025 19:40:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56918 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tr025-0006es-FJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 14:40:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55078) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tr022-0006do-4Y for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 14:40:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tr01w-0000dX-KL; Sat, 08 Mar 2025 14:40:16 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=5sYvZ2clxzQN4C9JG9VOMD7VSFQFTRn38prpYMFfESY=; b=Kbb+AflpPgDL EZW7+p6pSkER0zbrN+nbWqbWLuiIS3sPyWlAprXjqt5d5pj1fsoxwiLxY8bUYTiTBKVA98gcnQnI8 pZ4BwIyYWBsO0LTsj8WlE8phe8yB1szInX33xIDDuP61mr8cK1XkaQzr013cwX1WS9601JEHzFpmv zyaifI0qDBFNlyZVvw9MZExnGAOWuJZZnQc+BDgYY3PGZJsFbPOSGA2IYT0jSsL33/T+UiRAQjcz4 hpua2ZHlk97IFi8Gc3lyMufiHNP+sS9hI7gS4k/7p/xzrL5NuQrR59X/UONMbqddr5Ezi+uA96KUn J+xy0i+qEcBRTst3fYzTiQ==; Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 21:40:15 +0200 Message-Id: <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Thierry Volpiatto In-Reply-To: <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> (message from Thierry Volpiatto on Sat, 08 Mar 2025 17:10:38 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: rudolf@adamkovic.org, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Thierry Volpiatto > Cc: Thierry Volpiatto , rudolf@adamkovic.org, > 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2025 17:10:38 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> > Which register-related commands are _not_ supposed to show the > >> > preview? Knowing that will allow to decide which wording will be > >> > appropriate here. > >> > >> All register commands use preview AFAIK. > > > > Then I think this will be clearer: > > > > Whether register commands should show preview of registers that have values. > > Yes, nice, thanks. > Do you want me to commit this change or you do it? I'd like first to hear from Rudolf that he's okay with this wording. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Mar 09 21:59:35 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2025 01:59:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35237 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trSQY-0000Bg-Mz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:59:35 -0400 Received: from fout-a4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([103.168.172.147]:57359) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trSQR-0000B7-KS for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:59:28 -0400 Received: from phl-compute-12.internal (phl-compute-12.phl.internal [10.202.2.52]) by mailfout.phl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3561381140; Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:59:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-12.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:59:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamkovic.org; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :date:date:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id :mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm2; t=1741571962; x=1741658362; bh=Vr2YYY/W/TdQEYGIYqcTLUq2NeFd75PF 6PC2+pVphxY=; b=lIEuOYloTKhzPA2pnfmmeq3P9fJlWP/BBGKpB81l+lIFsoai 5NbJuCVpVsVcbJwXHJA8pbNgmSi7QLnkRZeSBlu6s3G0U5BZcofKSlpK6xDCqSkc mgVxUEYZ95MTTux3x4xdtjdgIV5zzRUHHHl+QB++K5QIckym4UIQNyTWxDuomrZg ystJApSqRnHwl/ETm9s9xZ1O+5TFo47qSoBZhpof5qSgZseE9c/6v/jJ1W38uonz ggg1Zm6RPt7L59JgBPUoEhyH7XVF56wbVYwzrPbfpXpSe7TI+cTeLYuRJ89BrAPe uLPbN2Nmp/GXw3FQ7Z4n7tET/y9tyDwNcRld9g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; t=1741571962; x= 1741658362; bh=Vr2YYY/W/TdQEYGIYqcTLUq2NeFd75PF6PC2+pVphxY=; b=b o+12JOP3XyUafU9xB+QPvgBH7JeQwUtGIiLnvNp3g77s1TfzJKBAtHpU9qFugDJn SfyrQo9QV1qs//lb+2ioLXmwyhUUyUeoXlhm9fHXoFn+eBL19LsCekfCN0OcSzSl 8bCtcVYlpjxMRmT4o04YAWhwaEmXOQx3izkItWz9VIrLOiWEQisASWyBSEooSQ8V y+gsRLYtaYEPWJVMBL6OwjRspsU37dflaYnbGes/z/Se7xccB41lIhoEQRUkHWCI QsawWCnA3xZjt+fSayfFP1kH4cwiwai3n++H7t28Nnr2YHpk3qQM8G+/tYxyr5gH llZJBG2NOyKlFq4kUZZcQ== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeefvddrtddtgdduudektdekucetufdoteggodetrf dotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggv pdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpih gvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvvefujghffffkgggtgfesthhqredttddt jeenucfhrhhomheptfhuugholhhfucetuggrmhhkohhvihgtuceorhhuugholhhfsegrug grmhhkohhvihgtrdhorhhgqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeiueetheffudfghfeggeev heevvddtkefflefhueeludfgtefgffeltdfhudejgeenucffohhmrghinheprggurghmkh hovhhitgdrohhrghenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhl fhhrohhmpehruhguohhlfhesrggurghmkhhovhhitgdrohhrghdpnhgspghrtghpthhtoh epfedpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepjeeijeefleesuggvsggsuhhg shdrghhnuhdrohhrghdprhgtphhtthhopehthhhivghvohhlsehpohhsthgvohdrnhgvth dprhgtphhtthhopegvlhhiiiesghhnuhdrohhrgh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i88214938:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 9 Mar 2025 21:59:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= To: Eli Zaretskii , Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled In-Reply-To: <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 02:59:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> Whether register commands should show preview of registers that have >>> values. >> Do you want me to commit this change or you do it? > I'd like first to hear from Rudolf that he's okay with this wording. Perhaps "non-empty registers" instead of "registers that have values"? Whether register commands should show preview of non-empty registers. Otherwise, LGTM. Thank you, Eli! Rudy --=20 "I would prefer an intelligent hell to a stupid paradise." --- Blaise Pascal Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D [he/him] http://adamkovic.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 10 11:22:31 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2025 15:22:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39234 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trexb-0003RT-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:22:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37772) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1trexX-0003RG-UK for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:22:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1trexS-00011U-6z; Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:22:22 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=/oKzaC/0NlZ0Po4mUnXMRuhEqGItEhUepIQ9bSs8t4s=; b=opNRlp/1QmhNK58Z09z5 qyFbyZ8BuPSn9uqfG+7GGVyUpJoduuAQNah695BhNZOSVPBxH6q7s4wbe0DkK31EONfve3D1uDm2s VpV6LgQeneYT+kFYbVdd5onnBybgDJXr3IYQUVB+C2r1CVhGc8REFG9GJsk3YOJRSLTuVn7hYvXlX nDzdsQof214wsz14vJnuyLXgSzE/1xTRQde8BJfV/yQ8WYa1NS2IP7XMoheleuckz6MeW2cv3ObmT Npb2GWKI5DCEHZ03bE910iCZaluFEqJ+GlV9DgFs2WyUlr7r96OsP4puWO1Sz3lDG5tkqBe+Q89gC Ugt6tfl+aJzAdg==; Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:22:09 +0200 Message-Id: <86ldtcewri.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= In-Reply-To: (message from Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= on Mon, 10 Mar 2025 02:59:17 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rudolf Adamkovič > Cc: 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 02:59:17 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >>> Whether register commands should show preview of registers that have > >>> values. > > >> Do you want me to commit this change or you do it? > > > I'd like first to hear from Rudolf that he's okay with this wording. > > Perhaps "non-empty registers" instead of "registers that have values"? Is it really better? Someone might think, for example, that a register whose value is an empty string could be considered "empty". We don't use the word "empty" anywhere in the "Registers" node of the Emacs manual. Doc strings do use that, though. So maybe do both: Whether register commands should show preview of registers with non-nil values. 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Someone might think, for example, that a > register whose value is an empty string could be considered "empty". > We don't use the word "empty" anywhere in the "Registers" node of the > Emacs manual. Doc strings do use that, though. So maybe do both: > > Whether register commands should show preview of registers with > non-nil values. Good point! I apologize for not consulting the manual first. Thanks for the guidance! Let me try again. The manual says: All of the commands that prompt for a register will by default display a preview window that lists the existing registers (if there are any) and their current values, after a short delay. [Later, the manual also says "show" instead of "display".] To match the existing terminology, we could say: Whether register commands show preview of current register values. Not sure if we need "should"; feel free to re-add it: Whether register commands [should] preview ... Rudy --=20 "The introduction of suitable abstractions is our only mental aid to organize and master complexity." --- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra, 1930-2002 Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D [he/him] http://adamkovic.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 11 07:57:52 2025 Received: (at 76739) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Mar 2025 11:57:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41989 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tryF3-0000B0-3N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 07:57:52 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58156) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tryEu-0000AX-6u for 76739@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 07:57:41 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tryEn-00034m-Qp; Tue, 11 Mar 2025 07:57:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=uZws9DtvyFzdOR8116GUiXLQH2tAJT75qfCHPYV2S1A=; b=pLDryquBoy7XQM1G5vo2 mhmF6IIH1hnW/HzsKtfKx25ui2kN7rmqmoKSaZT6/sWwvkIqzWAKeVOKPz+enxSCjrUOUggWJLqS4 6xOO+wTtqSmtmTmWPObevwRVMpKYj5vvFnIErF5mJSPZizGJUrojYdnfXeyCeOasf5q52tQdkeh8C u0FeiTdE+ISc4AAiXiYdgF7uk1zeYIzLmdNHqpjexWBiEj0R9o+VNutnWAG4V+plaHxis3Xu+MGPx XhClRDKFCLQuM9+BbF6CNk4TvvWrwXJhpMKcn4Jm0Z0BGZ8C0Wf2klnHFByX8Q7pURyFCf36ZFFmZ SMMp1XAFkj8pIg==; Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 13:57:27 +0200 Message-Id: <86o6y7dbko.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= In-Reply-To: (message from Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= on Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:16:34 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> <86ldtcewri.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739 Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rudolf Adamkovič > Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2025 19:16:34 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Perhaps "non-empty registers" instead of "registers that have values"? > > > > Is it really better? Someone might think, for example, that a > > register whose value is an empty string could be considered "empty". > > We don't use the word "empty" anywhere in the "Registers" node of the > > Emacs manual. Doc strings do use that, though. So maybe do both: > > > > Whether register commands should show preview of registers with > > non-nil values. > > Good point! I apologize for not consulting the manual first. Thanks > for the guidance! Let me try again. The manual says: > > All of the commands that prompt for a register will by default display > a preview window that lists the existing registers (if there are any) > and their current values, after a short delay. > > [Later, the manual also says "show" instead of "display".] > > To match the existing terminology, we could say: > > Whether register commands show preview of current register values. And then someone comes up complaining that we don't show nil values? What was wrong with my last suggestion that required removing the "non-nil" part? 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Ha-ha! The manual calls such registers non-existent (e.g. "lists the existing registers"), so I thought that much is given: no register, no current value. However, as a long-term maintainer, you know best what wording might cause support headaches down the line, so your "non-nil" variant LGTM. Besides, my problem was with the word "modifying", and that was addressed already. Thank you for your patience! Rudy --=20 =E2=80=9CThose who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.=E2= =80=9D --- George Santayana, Life of Reason: Reason in Common Sense, 1905 Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D [he/him] http://adamkovic.org From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 13 04:15:16 2025 Received: (at 76739-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Mar 2025 08:15:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53466 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsdim-00044l-4G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:15:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tsdij-000435-2i for 76739-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:15:14 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tsdic-0000r9-Ey; Thu, 13 Mar 2025 04:15:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=IKNIa/EGW3EXWVzQ5CMFeRZT9i/wQnVDScs/IHQHgCc=; b=U2AbLLj2sdH/5Alflx2U SKQdhJ5R6qtnPbvlPkAZJ6ya8u7cTsLj+9IdzEDay7z2732D3ESFgrT6VllRgjGeV19JgnjUKcd7h J7xRHPNRh0FquvD/6wknMd5AfBX92XlJ99e8ia3rDxmXcyzTd7ZS0rOLJ5ip4AV5eKBZxIVijX4MX Q6cmwnKkMVR+9QlpKl0Voz2JHOOi6xUEbmYDZ/NP16qXAWNYt0uC35AcgG8oh1miZgHbSbg1jPtex qZi4kAiJCbQ+TpiIvDBZvYz8R6oSjV/2cLr3GahFffKv6zrtn237VUCxbo++KFXBWE5pgAdj3/Sge +W36+E3aXeYQxg==; Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:15:02 +0200 Message-Id: <86zfhp2vp5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= In-Reply-To: (message from Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= on Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:47:35 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#76739: 31.0.50; Register previews cannot be disabled References: <861pvckev6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r03c7koc.fsf@posteo.net> <864j08r6pw.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfhw2gnz.fsf@posteo.net> <86cyerkckm.fsf@gnu.org> <87o6yb3fiu.fsf@posteo.net> <865xkjk722.fsf@gnu.org> <877c4z30tt.fsf@posteo.net> <86tt83ia5c.fsf@gnu.org> <86ldtcewri.fsf@gnu.org> <86o6y7dbko.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 76739-done Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rudolf Adamkovič > Cc: thievol@posteo.net, 76739@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 21:47:35 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > And then someone comes up complaining that we don't show nil values? > > Ha-ha! The manual calls such registers non-existent (e.g. "lists the > existing registers"), so I thought that much is given: no register, no > current value. However, as a long-term maintainer, you know best what > wording might cause support headaches down the line, so your "non-nil" > variant LGTM. Besides, my problem was with the word "modifying", and > that was addressed already. Thank you for your patience! OK, installed on the emacs-30 branch, and closing the bug. From unknown Fri Jun 20 05:38:25 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 11:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator