From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:01:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented Resent-From: Jari Aalto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7667 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7667@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.129260840110075 (code B ref -1); Fri, 17 Dec 2010 17:54:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2010 17:53:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTeUa-0002cS-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:53:20 -0500 Received: from emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.109]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTeUX-0002cD-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0500 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.95]) by emh03-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 07D4DEBEB7 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.109]) by vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.95]) with SMTP (gateway) id A02E8B03BB1; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:38 +0200 Received: from picasso.cante.net (a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.187.216]) by emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC14C158A65 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:36 +0200 (EET) From: Jari Aalto Mail-Copies-To: poster Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Package: emacs Version: 23.2+1-5.1 Severity: normal Function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented in Emacs info page. Please add it to file: doc/emacs/trouble.texi -- System Information Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT Prefers testing APT policy: (990, testing) (500, unstable) (1, experimental) Architecture: amd64 Kernel: Linux picasso 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Sep 17 21:50:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux Locale: LANG=en_DK.UTF-8 -- Versions of packages `emacs depends on'. Depends: emacs23 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-lucid 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-nox 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:01:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7667 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Jari Aalto Cc: 7667@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7667-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7667.129291464823445 (code B ref 7667); Tue, 21 Dec 2010 06:58:01 +0000 Received: (at 7667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2010 06:57:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUwA3-000666-S1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:57:28 -0500 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUwA2-00065v-H3 for 7667@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 01:57:26 -0500 Received: from furball (bb116-14-228-227.singnet.com.sg [116.14.228.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oBL73ngj029359 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 21 Dec 2010 02:03:52 -0500 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 191B5161BE5; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:03:46 +0800 (SGT) From: Chong Yidong References: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:03:45 +0800 In-Reply-To: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> (Jari Aalto's message of "Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:36 +0200") Message-ID: <87tyi7txny.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Jari Aalto writes: > Function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented in Emacs info > page. Please add it to file: > > doc/emacs/trouble.texi It's documented in the Lisp manual, and mentioned in the Emacs manual in the node "Bugs" > "Checklist". Since this command is mostly useful for Lisp debugging and programming, the documentation belongs in the Lisp manual. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:01:42 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented Resent-From: Jari Aalto Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7667 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Chong Yidong Cc: 7667@debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto Received: via spool by 7667-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7667.12929222417714 (code B ref 7667); Tue, 21 Dec 2010 09:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 7667) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2010 09:04:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUy8V-00020N-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:04:00 -0500 Received: from emh02.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.108]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUy8S-000203-UU for 7667@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 04:03:58 -0500 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.96]) by emh02-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id A446CEF57A; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:10:27 +0200 (EET) Received: from emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.117]) by vs3-12.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.96]) with SMTP (gateway) id A026717D8AB; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:10:27 +0200 Received: from picasso.cante.net (a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.187.216]) by emh07.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F561C638E; Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:10:23 +0200 (EET) From: Jari Aalto Organization: Private References: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <87tyi7txny.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Mail-Copies-To: poster Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:10:22 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87tyi7txny.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Tue, 21 Dec 2010 15:03:45 +0800") Message-ID: <87y67jwkxt.fsf@picasso.cante.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) 2010-12-21 09:03 Chong Yidong : | Jari Aalto writes: | | > Function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented in Emacs info | > page. Please add it to file: | > | > doc/emacs/trouble.texi | | It's documented in the Lisp manual, and mentioned in the Emacs manual in | the node "Bugs" > "Checklist". Since this command is mostly useful for | Lisp debugging and programming, the documentation belongs in the Lisp | manual. The doc/emacs/trouble.texi documents: @chapter Dealing with Common Problems @findex toggle-debug-on-error @pindex Edebug To make a backtrace for the error, use @kbd{M-x toggle-debug-on-error} before the error happens (that is to say, you must give that command and then make the bug happen). This causes the error to start the Lisp debugger, which shows you a backtrace. Copy the text of the debugger's backtrace into the bug report. @xref{Debugger,, The Lisp Debugger, elisp, the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual}, for information on debugging Emacs Lisp programs with the Edebug package. This use of the debugger is possible only if you know how to make the bug happen again. If you can't make it happen again, at least copy the whole error message. The toggle-debug-on-quit is comparable. It would be awkward not to be able to find it with "s" search command; that you would need to switch to entirely another info manual to see the function. Jari From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:01:42 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Jari Aalto Subject: bug#7667: closed (Re: bug#7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented) Message-ID: References: <83sjxmcf2w.fsf@gnu.org> <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 7667 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 7667@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 10:34:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1293273242-974-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1293273242-974-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 7667@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7667: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7667 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1293273242-974-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7667-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Dec 2010 10:33:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRRc-0000FH-Vv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:33:49 -0500 Received: from mtaout23.012.net.il ([80.179.55.175]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PWRRb-0000F1-5A for 7667-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 05:33:48 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout23.012.net.il by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LDZ00700BYR6400@a-mtaout23.012.net.il> for 7667-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:40:27 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.17.87]) by a-mtaout23.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LDZ007INCBD0R60@a-mtaout23.012.net.il>; Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:40:27 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:38:31 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7667: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented In-reply-to: <87y67jwkxt.fsf@picasso.cante.net> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Jari Aalto Message-id: <83sjxmcf2w.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> <87tyi7txny.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87y67jwkxt.fsf@picasso.cante.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7667-done Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, 7667-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > From: Jari Aalto > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 11:10:22 +0200 > Cc: 7667@debbugs.gnu.org, Jari Aalto > > | It's documented in the Lisp manual, and mentioned in the Emacs manual in > | the node "Bugs" > "Checklist". Since this command is mostly useful for > | Lisp debugging and programming, the documentation belongs in the Lisp > | manual. > > The doc/emacs/trouble.texi documents: > > @chapter Dealing with Common Problems > > @findex toggle-debug-on-error > @pindex Edebug > To make a backtrace for the error, use @kbd{M-x toggle-debug-on-error} > before the error happens (that is to say, you must give that command > and then make the bug happen). This causes the error to start the Lisp > debugger, which shows you a backtrace. Copy the text of the > debugger's backtrace into the bug report. @xref{Debugger,, The Lisp > Debugger, elisp, the Emacs Lisp Reference Manual}, for information on > debugging Emacs Lisp programs with the Edebug package. > > This use of the debugger is possible only if you know how to make the > bug happen again. If you can't make it happen again, at least copy > the whole error message. > > The toggle-debug-on-quit is comparable. I see no harm in mentioning it in the Emacs manual, so I added a short blurb about it. > It would be awkward not to be able to find it with "s" search command You should use `i', not `s' for searching an Info manual. Any user-level variable and function in an Info manual should be indexed. ------------=_1293273242-974-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2010 17:53:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTeUa-0002cS-4V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:53:20 -0500 Received: from emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.109]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PTeUX-0002cD-Et for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:53:18 -0500 Received: from saunalahti-vams (vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi [62.142.5.95]) by emh03-2.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id 07D4DEBEB7 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:38 +0200 (EET) Received: from emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.109]) by vs3-11.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.5.95]) with SMTP (gateway) id A02E8B03BB1; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:38 +0200 Received: from picasso.cante.net (a91-155-187-216.elisa-laajakaista.fi [91.155.187.216]) by emh03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC14C158A65 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:36 +0200 (EET) From: Jari Aalto To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Emacs info: function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented Mail-Copies-To: poster Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 19:59:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87y67o1drr.fsf@picasso.cante.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Antivirus: VAMS X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) Package: emacs Version: 23.2+1-5.1 Severity: normal Function toggle-debug-on-quit is not documented in Emacs info page. Please add it to file: doc/emacs/trouble.texi -- System Information Debian Release: squeeze/sid APT Prefers testing APT policy: (990, testing) (500, unstable) (1, experimental) Architecture: amd64 Kernel: Linux picasso 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Sep 17 21:50:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux Locale: LANG=en_DK.UTF-8 -- Versions of packages `emacs depends on'. Depends: emacs23 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-lucid 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting emacs23-nox 23.2+1-5.1 GNU Emacs is the extensible self-documenting ------------=_1293273242-974-1--