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The tooltip text appears in the echo area immediately (just after the mouse pointer enters the "buffer ID area"). But IIUC, it should wait a little time (tooltip-delay seconds) before showing the help text (just like when tooltip-mode is enabled). In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 70, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-02-28 built on C11-Q8YAKWONJX0 Repository revision: 68a37760dec83a8126b03bcacc60a96644a6831f Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corporation', version 11.0.12010000 System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINERAMA XINPUT2 XPM XRANDR GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: C.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76653 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76653-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76653.17408285569943 (code B ref 76653); Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:30:03 +0000 Received: (at 76653) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2025 11:29:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34200 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toL1v-0002aJ-H2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 06:29:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38284) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toL1s-0002Zc-TJ for 76653@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 06:29:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1toL1m-0000cc-Ix; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 06:29:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9b9J7yOhXwwrD/isNgwVOAoU2wZXgQAN3jXTW332UjE=; b=nwnze5zZByWx eue6ew6vpEwmUoGUcm02RtRS3BIG9Y0OuccDKe7xlupPNFJIoPIxvDVSBPAn0DopYprUX/kJRKhNN CGBjXEBKGfnGDo7MzuM0Uy4POX2Z7kkOtCq4iv+Ric12XsYY3iLOPWzWoJRLpm+ZCwIANfZjpD53u 9J7XbtiNo4DoAvqlHH+zyORQ9eNUDUQWHglfN7AGvFfxgmVu3vgu+6SC9T4x0DInChesnjUmvPP/V 0bYPrj1a8Sn6Rr93AhBMEoDpn0CLfFNLo7Y9U8TQ6H7j9jSFETl2LQDnWUDtUCY4W9sQbc5nAS4XP GFWo4MkEfaM/asiv+c0T8g==; Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 13:29:03 +0200 Message-Id: <868qppq9a8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Dani Moncayo on Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:17:31 +0100) References: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 19:17:31 +0100 > > >From 'emacs -Q': disable tooltip-mode (M-x tooltip-mode RET) and then > move the mouse pointer over the buffer ID (in the mode line). > > The tooltip text appears in the echo area immediately (just after the > mouse pointer enters the "buffer ID area"). > But IIUC, it should wait a little time (tooltip-delay seconds) before > showing the help text (just like when tooltip-mode is enabled). Thanks. Indeed, the current code ignores the delays on text-only terminals. Does the patch below give good results? diff --git a/lisp/tooltip.el b/lisp/tooltip.el index 482af3b..51a9841 100644 --- a/lisp/tooltip.el +++ b/lisp/tooltip.el @@ -251,7 +251,8 @@ tooltip-show `use-system-tooltips' is non-nil and Emacs is built with support for system tooltips, such as on NS, Haiku, and with the GTK toolkit." - (if use-echo-area + (if (or use-echo-area + (not (display-graphic-p))) (tooltip-show-help-non-mode text) (condition-case error (let ((params (copy-sequence tooltip-frame-parameters)) @@ -285,8 +286,13 @@ tooltip-hide "Hide a tooltip, if one is displayed. Value is non-nil if tooltip was open." (tooltip-cancel-delayed-tip) - (when (x-hide-tip) - (setq tooltip-hide-time (float-time)))) + (if (display-graphic-p) + (when (x-hide-tip) + (setq tooltip-hide-time (float-time))) + (let ((msg (current-message))) + (message "") + (when (not (or (null msg) (equal msg ""))) + (setq tooltip-hide-time (float-time)))))) ;;; Debugger-related functions @@ -386,11 +392,10 @@ tooltip-show-help-non-mode (defun tooltip-show-help (msg) "Function installed as `show-help-function'. MSG is either a help string to display, or nil to cancel the display." - (if (and (display-graphic-p) - ;; Tooltips can't be displayed on top of the global menu - ;; bar on NS. - (or (not (eq window-system 'ns)) - (not (menu-or-popup-active-p)))) + (if ;; Tooltips can't be displayed on top of the global menu bar on + ;; NS. + (not (and (eq window-system 'ns) + (menu-or-popup-active-p))) (let ((previous-help tooltip-help-message)) (setq tooltip-help-message msg) (cond ((null msg) @@ -408,9 +413,7 @@ tooltip-show-help ;; A different help. Remove a previous tooltip, and ;; display a new one, with some delay. (tooltip-hide) - (tooltip-start-delayed-tip)))) - ;; On text-only displays, try `tooltip-show-help-non-mode'. - (tooltip-show-help-non-mode msg))) + (tooltip-start-delayed-tip)))))) (defun tooltip-help-tips (_event) "Hook function to display a help tooltip. 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Indeed, the current code ignores the delays on text-only > terminals. Does the patch below give good results? Unless I'm doing something wrong (which is quite possible), your patch isn't working here. I've applied the patch, built Emacs, and repeated the original recipe -- I see the same behavior as before (the help text appears in the echo area immediately). --=20 Dani Moncayo From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:16:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76653 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76653-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76653.174083850515465 (code B ref 76653); Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:16:03 +0000 Received: (at 76653) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2025 14:15:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toNcO-00041L-CU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:15:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toNcL-0003zu-2Y for 76653@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:15:02 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1toNcD-0005i2-VG; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:14:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=S93HTcmk1UxdDP2sCnmZFd0qVAdM6G0kwIVJHih6jM4=; b=UA6MrmKHf8bEyoO/1uMi xZou6avMhHWjztUuP0H2919NARNkBj+/IkPEjJCAbdfl35+lN0QsSoRqv1oWJlL45914lJpVYEKX4 7cZMOyyqsnsYftw190nZNdUM/FafiapPekVLyGchTRu+TnQ6qwCcOpwY8UrSvfSS/9fYnjSmkN3/Q dbwfD0mXZ5nOX9ZK03c/2i3rceyfsNHLQGI/q6clSoh2KpBquzXuUUnXb9lbIyxwitA8HW6Z4+FFA Gfoy0DpQqT0F8/hhdkZG7lNwov++PYbsLmmL2f75XPnXK0qPQzrtJYDhqTLi6KQp+jWnXV5pBN4Dt oAhjk+iUgaAUNw==; Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 16:14:35 +0200 Message-Id: <861pvgq1mc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Dani Moncayo on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 13:06:17 +0100) References: <868qppq9a8.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 13:06:17 +0100 > Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 12:29 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Thanks. Indeed, the current code ignores the delays on text-only > > terminals. Does the patch below give good results? > > Unless I'm doing something wrong (which is quite possible), your patch > isn't working here. > > I've applied the patch, built Emacs, and repeated the original recipe > -- I see the same behavior as before (the help text appears in the > echo area immediately). Please describe what you did, in all the details. Please also enlarge the value of tooltip-delay to something like 3 sec, to make sure you can reliably distinguish between the delay and the "immediate" display. And be sure you understand the effect of tooltip-recent-seconds on the tool-tip delay display. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76653 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: dmoncayo@gmail.com Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76653-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76653.174083921420419 (code B ref 76653); Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 76653) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2025 14:26:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36218 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toNnq-0005JG-ET for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:26:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43224) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toNno-0005In-2j for 76653@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:26:52 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1toNnh-0007vO-4I; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:26:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=KnHyCEhtmH8iTSB5C+T5a6yhR3GPy1PvLPVyp0FjsbA=; b=m6Vhd7bzPLO5kORjuzcd qTvEqCrdjAqUh0M4Sp7XvIia2K2fnYo8Tt3Q3A6TSpjAu6VYzBF7POmVOLrkaMVtMyR4BvStu+6Me RPVKPStYhjERasmMkqsA7XNlrrboHgaNVi+6hl8CIG+uojuJ8YFzrNLgLcpjmpi3gJq+cwrxZGbhM /7Mg0gcYv61e9bgSvnXsONvtW7oubiKBpkoM2Of1ePnZk2RxycUtlqn8quJZNWZqyY83pfGmBpxXN tS8LrokMoiGBnRAIflO5BaL+mAGhI9qnCFx8I8RsVty2Y1/yoF9SQuu5OV5tbTjK2ehBlRpVoRg0C 5srsnj2s35jYNg==; Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 16:26:41 +0200 Message-Id: <86zfi4omhq.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <861pvgq1mc.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 01 Mar 2025 16:14:35 +0200) References: <868qppq9a8.fsf@gnu.org> <861pvgq1mc.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 16:14:35 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: Dani Moncayo > > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 13:06:17 +0100 > > Cc: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 12:29 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > > Thanks. Indeed, the current code ignores the delays on text-only > > > terminals. Does the patch below give good results? > > > > Unless I'm doing something wrong (which is quite possible), your patch > > isn't working here. > > > > I've applied the patch, built Emacs, and repeated the original recipe > > -- I see the same behavior as before (the help text appears in the > > echo area immediately). > > Please describe what you did, in all the details. > > Please also enlarge the value of tooltip-delay to something like 3 > sec, to make sure you can reliably distinguish between the delay and > the "immediate" display. And be sure you understand the effect of > tooltip-recent-seconds on the tool-tip delay display. Sorry, ignore the above. When you disable tooltip-mode, the delays are also disabled. That's by design, since the delayed display is part of this mode. What I fixed was that on text-mode terminals the delay was also disabled, even though tooltip-mode was enabled. So if you expect the delay to be in effect when the mode is disabled, then your expectations are incorrect. From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:02 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dani Moncayo Subject: bug#76653: closed (Re: bug#76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled) Message-ID: References: X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 76653 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 76653@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 14:49:03 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1740840543-28515-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1740840543-28515-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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That's > by design, since the delayed display is part of this mode. > > What I fixed was that on text-mode terminals the delay was also > disabled, even though tooltip-mode was enabled. > > So if you expect the delay to be in effect when the mode is disabled, > then your expectations are incorrect. OK. I think it would be nice to have the possibility to configure the delay I was expecting. But this is a minor feature that nobody (except me) seems to have missed. So let's close this ticket. 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The tooltip text appears in the echo area immediately (just after the mouse pointer enters the "buffer ID area"). But IIUC, it should wait a little time (tooltip-delay seconds) before showing the help text (just like when tooltip-mode is enabled). In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 70, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.41, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2025-02-28 built on C11-Q8YAKWONJX0 Repository revision: 68a37760dec83a8126b03bcacc60a96644a6831f Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corporation', version 11.0.12010000 System Description: Ubuntu 24.04.2 LTS Configured features: CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XINERAMA XINPUT2 XPM XRANDR GTK3 ZLIB Important settings: value of $LANG: C.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix -- Dani Moncayo ------------=_1740840543-28515-1-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:45:02 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76653: 31.0.50; tooltip-delay not honored when tooltip-mode is disabled Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 15:18:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76653 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 76653-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 76653-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D76653.174084225710338 (code D ref 76653); Sat, 01 Mar 2025 15:18:02 +0000 Received: (at 76653-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Mar 2025 15:17:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41337 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toOau-0002gb-Ga for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 10:17:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1toOao-0002fq-JV for 76653-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 10:17:32 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1toOaj-0000AR-3u; Sat, 01 Mar 2025 10:17:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ecfKDJDBrtfB9QYARW8W5X0eVJarCIeoveVAtqwaHeY=; b=pQ/QxwbH3DsxfpDUVBzH +2WDpFag517pAaJKreZ5s+CM2WS7+pYm06pVnQ7Sl7DyQfu24VQSrPnNbtCSxvUNVU2dhPz3VNULU qGTwZV9xd0rj/hquvUKMMXPKiqwX2X5PsB17VrhCWR6o5Mr3fzFeEWu5HcG/rfSepQwdzN7wYVB2P x0nefKgKv7buKJkJg4OTZ4JyLwQWyRGT15A7t2pH9FaofXvSsAiTsPweFbG2tw52PYz4Wv/E1N5If k3vtoMY8w+OxOONna5BkXBbT5yPP0gr6fgPAi4ownIw5uUw5RD1jo6KUlYzo2v5SyNr9FC+CNWk7O zsbqzcDOWH3rPw==; Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2025 17:17:02 +0200 Message-Id: <86y0xook5t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Dani Moncayo on Sat, 1 Mar 2025 15:48:25 +0100) References: <868qppq9a8.fsf@gnu.org> <861pvgq1mc.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfi4omhq.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2025 15:48:25 +0100 > Cc: 76653-done@debbugs.gnu.org > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 3:26 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > When you disable tooltip-mode, the delays are also disabled. That's > > by design, since the delayed display is part of this mode. > > > > What I fixed was that on text-mode terminals the delay was also > > disabled, even though tooltip-mode was enabled. > > > > So if you expect the delay to be in effect when the mode is disabled, > > then your expectations are incorrect. > > OK. I think it would be nice to have the possibility to configure the > delay I was expecting. But this is a minor feature that nobody > (except me) seems to have missed. So let's close this ticket. > > Thanks. OK, I've installed the changes on the master branch.