From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:37:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76617: completing-read should accept spaces in require-match nil mode Resent-From: Daniel Colascione Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 76617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 76617@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.174069065129049 (code B ref -1); Thu, 27 Feb 2025 21:11:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Feb 2025 21:10:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tnl9e-0007YS-OB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:50 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:47852) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tnl9c-0007Xx-14 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tnl9W-00022N-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:42 -0500 Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tnl9S-0006iH-OX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Gn5+DKJZZn8JF+gfp7Msh81WHbmUiU/TZa/KJJjJ9WU=; b=EToeRkBlqyLhixCnX+/X72oXlv oH/Df0pPv0iEGRYQZd+hq+0SNI+Hy1ewpO2JJ9GeiAiOkpkxNvJXWcUXQy4ODQTl06GDOWnG6eN6q hwBUYPYY6m2rwBx2rB+bBtTFf809Wj5pUxxEACsV62irMWjUhxg5wBrbsPm5Y4qXw/vc0EqyyvHgb AJTNZ5Y9hvQ4JSOz3n1lpdHBU+cNttDkIURmM+TFJZzgZAwPtP8lJehh0sCpl20Crxh9MuwoFVpM2 XFb/plBT8xEvQ8pqu+WSr5h+5/FSkLerB3Y69BECOnoiKeP14qx8OI/RF9dtZpKx4oO2yYynv5p15 SK1ZKFcw==; Received: from dancol by dancol.org with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1tnl9J-001Hk3-0F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:29 -0500 From: Daniel Colascione User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.8; emacs 31.0.50 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2025 16:10:34 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1; envelope-from=dancol@dancol.org; helo=dancol.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) It's sometimes useful (especially when require-match nil) to enter text with spaces in completing read, but right now, that's inconvenient (you have to use C-q SPC) because we bind SPC to minibuffer-complete-word, which won't insert a space unless space matches some possible completion, and in require-match nil mode, there might not be a completion with a space in it. 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Indeed. Good luck! Since 2005 (20 years ago), Icicles has made SPC self-inserting during completion. I tried, in vain, to get vanilla Emacs to do the same. Eventually Emacs did so for file-name completion (only). SPC and ? should be self-inserting. How many more decades till this sinks in? For word completion, it's sufficient to bind M-SPC instead of SPC (also done in 2005). From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:37:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76617: completing-read should accept spaces in require-match nil mode Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 15:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: dancol@dancol.org, 76617@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 76617-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76617.174092808625035 (code B ref 76617); Sun, 02 Mar 2025 15:09:02 +0000 Received: (at 76617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2025 15:08:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60646 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tokvG-0006Vj-4j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:08:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tokvC-0006Ut-4I for 76617@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:08:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tokv5-0005h7-Hj; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:07:55 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=Date:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: mime-version; bh=u9cQagsVZRC1iPd4rWrs+CsR16HQNsMDvDBC8jNcB90=; b=Pb4pVNg4Tnff ZXOfKh7yK3kkKAWwx2K+FmQHqSDwiolyxjPwVwQ9Q7o+VhJqASFHFSv/6QC5B3OLmCgdn3b/Tv8kc mfnig9lsmSGonx1iCAQzUWYvnvd0YElZ0DIk5rqzdR9kmNfuc2CN0shOeUCvjqA/xbJwAyjffK0vW ELxteulO+iCWcUSWfvzSsfa3V1T7z1jA/C2SBB6Juvu2Xm9Z1OMUA2xPLjjXbFxzVGmFQLg7VfgpS aWfkUNf+FLURf5QfBLvIe/8R32o+u3pAGmCmOpWuvq1QABypsM8UXw9oADjfUf+yF0FF8K1bLtVKI 7tcC0WhLpoiJJCXhB3Fn2A==; Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tokv5-0001HF-15; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:07:55 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) References: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:07:55 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Perhaps SPC and ? should self-insert when they do not extend the completion text at all. Would that behavior be convenient? -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:37:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76617: completing-read should accept spaces in require-match nil mode Resent-From: Daniel Colascione Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 15:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: 76617@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Received: via spool by 76617-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76617.174093079010793 (code B ref 76617); Sun, 02 Mar 2025 15:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 76617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2025 15:53:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tolcs-0002o1-1f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:53:10 -0500 Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]:45424) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tolcp-0002nt-Sv for 76617@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:53:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=coK6p1S5APzRhaPCWgzUbide5cghySwx6l995M4rrQw=; b=mm6JytumE8VEw5kSPhKCr2M0k3 6XqOwcXxYKD6Kk8hn5SBPscrx/FnN8r8esSsMNJFRDuu/eEpRPsteTq6U6MIqpnu4CrkxkI5RLVjo YC6w4jEDsmyv+I7vTo/EyzPyuMEE919O3ecpqR7wCb32oOTDEFwllPRMdrVielg3nn+rxyx/ziog9 Flk86vJEEGIP9tglb4JnjZe+WYX6qXkBncLbWVX/obhKfUtl1gh3YAcwbxQYb6zzIesNgFnRQn0++ 1nfsufkf0xn8aouBVWNwsSKSKAgavlf5wWnKXA58Oqphzu0S94PfNTKb92ZaO4PUMLQolw9dzQKcs lKx+m2ew==; Received: from dancol by dancol.org with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1tolcf-001cHt-2L; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:52:57 -0500 From: Daniel Colascione In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: mu4e 1.12.8; emacs 31.0.50 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:53:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Perhaps SPC and ? should self-insert when they do not extend the > completion text at all. Would that behavior be convenient? Only when require-match is nil, IMHO. 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Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1uAy6w-0007o9-Pa; Fri, 02 May 2025 17:39:58 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-Reply-To: (message from Daniel Colascione on Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:53:04 -0500) References: Message-Id: Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 17:39:58 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Perhaps SPC and ? should self-insert when they do not extend the > > completion text at all. Would that behavior be convenient? > Only when require-match is nil, IMHO. To self-insert when REQUIRE-MATCH is nil seems like a good idea. What about with other values of REQUIRE-MATCH, in the case where adding the character would result in a match match something in the completion list? For instance, if the minibuffer contains `foo' and `foo?' is one of the completions, them typing ? twice could insert ? And something similar for SPC. -- Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org) From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:37:09 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#76617: completing-read should accept spaces in require-match nil mode Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 02 May 2025 23:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 76617 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "rms@gnu.org" , Daniel Colascione Cc: "76617@debbugs.gnu.org" <76617@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 76617-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B76617.174622941610656 (code B ref 76617); Fri, 02 May 2025 23:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 76617) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2025 23:43:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34846 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