GNU bug report logs - #76538
31.0.50; 31.0.50; 31.0.50; feature/igc: using magit-section-cycle-global (S-TAB) and magit-section-toggle (TAB) in some random ways blocks GNU Emacs.

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Package: emacs;

Reported by: João Moreira <joaomoreira <at> gmx.se>

Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 03:42:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Found in version 31.0.50

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Message #47 received at 76538 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Pip Cet <pipcet <at> protonmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92 <at> posteo.net>, eller.helmut <at> gmail.com,
 Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com>, joaomoreira <at> gmx.se,
 76538 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#76538: 31.0.50; 31.0.50; 31.0.50;
 feature/igc: using magit-section-cycle-global (S-TAB) and
 magit-section-toggle (TAB) in some random ways blocks GNU Emacs.
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 21:35:10 +0000
"Stefan Monnier" <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> [ See the end for a possible explanation and solution to the slowdown
>   we see on the igc branch.  ]
>
>>> FWIW, I have a branch `scratch/markers-as-gap-array` where I replace the
>>> linked list of markers with an "array with a gap" where markers are
>>> sorted, so we use a binary search.  It might help in your case.
>>
>> Maybe not on feature/igc (this bug is about igc).  It made changes to the
>> way markers are stored in buffer and your branch might need to be
>> adapted to work with the branch.
>
> Definitely.
>
> Not sure how to proceed, tho.
> I kind of like the idea of keeping "separate" development on
> separate branches.  But indeed, since the igc branch already changed the
> implementation of markers, maybe I should rebase my branch on top of igc?

That'd be great.  It seems we definitely need a better implementation
here :-)

>>> Indeed those cache-markers are referenced only weakly so they currently
>>> disappear at every GC.  I can't remember if I kept this behavior in my
>>> branch, but I remember considering some alternative where we keep every
>>> other weak marker.
>> It may or may not be the case on feature/igc. I think it remains to be
>> the case, and, unlike master, GC on feature/igc may happen at arbitrary
>> time rather than at specific code points. So, it may clear the cache in
>> the middle of the search (AFAIU).
>
> With my sorted-array-with-gap we could be much more sophisticated about
> the handling of cache-markers:
>
> - The data-structure can much more easily handle a large number of
>   markers (even during things like insertion/deletion the updates are
>   significantly cheaper), so there is less pressure the get rid of
>   cache markers.
> - Because the array is sorted we can easily estimate the usefulness
>   of a given cache-marker (by looking at its distance to the next marker).
> - We could keep a running cost/benefit analysis for each cache marker,
>   which gets incremented when we need to update the position
>   and decremented when we use the marker for byte<->char conversion.
> - In the current system, once we have "too many markers" (and that
>   happens pretty quickly) the byte<->char conversion code may fail to
>   find the nearest marker, simply because it's too far from the top, so
>   we end up creating yet more cache-markers.  If we're not careful to
>   throw away the cache-markers from the end of the linked-list, this
>   could quickly lead to absurdly large numbers of (cache-)markers.
>
> BTW, now that I look at the code, maybe the problem you're bumping into
> is that on the igc branch, (cache-)markers are added to the rear of the
> array (as a first approximation), whereas on `master` they're added to
> the front of the linked list.
>
> In `buf_charpos_to_bytepos` we scan the array/list starting from
> the front, so once the array gets large we never reach the end of the
> array where we would find the recently-created nearby cache-marker, so
> instead of using that nearby (cache-)marker we end up creating a new one
> and paying (again) for a costly long scan.

That seems to match what's happening here, with the order of scanning to
blame, but...

> Maybe if we change the `DO_MARKERS` iteration to scan from the end,
> we'd recover a behavior much closer to what we see on `master`.

...I tried doing that, and it didn't work.  Maybe I messed up somehow.

Pip






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