From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.129219211124088 (code B ref -1); Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:16:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2010 22:15:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuCA-0006GN-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:15:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuC7-0006Fh-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:15:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI3-0005RK-HT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:56360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI3-0005RG-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43467 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PRuI2-0004rq-ET for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI1-0005R4-6Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:10 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI1-0005Qv-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:09 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LDC000005TW4J00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:20:56 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.142.197]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LDC00MW562UAP90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:20:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:21:12 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) The new rmail-mime feature causes Rmail to set buffer-file-coding-system to an incorrect value. Expected result: buffer-file-coding-system is according to the charset= header, but in fact buffer-file-coding-system is almost always set to undecided. This is a regression from Emacs 23.2.90. Also, once the headers were decoded by rfc2047-decode-region, it would be good to set buffer-file-coding-system to last-coding-system-used, if the buffer's encoding is still undecided. In GNU Emacs 23.2.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-12-11 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1255 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t temp-buffer-resize-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent input: C-x b I N B M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: setting up indent stuff Indentation variables are now local. Indentation setup for shell type sh Setting up indent for shell type sh setting up indent stuff Indentation variables are now local. Indentation setup for shell type sh Note: file is write protected [3 times] Wrote d:/usr/eli/.emacs.desktop.lock Desktop: 234 buffers restored. Load-path shadows: None found. Features: (shadow mailalias sendmail emacsbug ld-script sh-script executable dired-x dired-aux dired tcl comint ring make-mode nxml-uchnm rng-xsd xsd-regexp rng-cmpct rng-nxml rng-valid rng-loc rng-uri rng-parse nxml-parse rng-match rng-dt rng-util rng-pttrn nxml-ns nxml-mode nxml-outln nxml-rap nxml-util nxml-glyph nxml-enc xmltok sgml-mode arc-mode archive-mode parse-time conf-mode newcomment jka-compr tar-mode add-log diff-mode texinfo generic vc-cvs cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt flyspell ispell org-wl org-w3m org-vm org-rmail org-mhe org-mew org-irc org-jsinfo org-infojs org-html org-exp org-exp-blocks org-agenda org-info org-gnus org-bibtex org-bbdb org byte-opt warnings bytecomp byte-compile advice help-fns advice-preload org-footnote org-src org-list org-faces org-compat org-macs noutline outline easy-mmode vc-bzr info rmailsum rmailmm message ecomplete rfc822 mml easymenu mml-sec password-cache mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mailcap mailabbrev nnheader gnus-util netrc gmm-utils wid-edit mailheader canlock sha1 hex-util hashcash mail-parse rfc2231 rmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums time-date qp mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils desktop server filecache saveplace generic-x paren battery time tooltip ediff-hook vc-hooks lisp-float-type mwheel dos-w32 disp-table ls-lisp w32-win w32-vars tool-bar dnd fontset image fringe lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mldrag mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese hebrew greek romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev loaddefs button minibuffer faces cus-face files text-properties overlay md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process multi-tty emacs) From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12921997782889 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2010 00:22:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRwBu-0000kY-41 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:22:58 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRwBr-0000kI-Mn for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 19:22:57 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id oBD0T2wC007575; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:02 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id oBD0T2aJ024053; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:02 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id oBD0T216014211; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:02 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRwHl-0006ie-Rf; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:01 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:21:12 +0200) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:01 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > The new rmail-mime feature causes Rmail to set > buffer-file-coding-system to an incorrect value. Expected result: > buffer-file-coding-system is according to the charset= header, but in > fact buffer-file-coding-system is almost always set to undecided. > This is a regression from Emacs 23.2.90. > Also, once the headers were decoded by rfc2047-decode-region, it would > be good to set buffer-file-coding-system to last-coding-system-used, > if the buffer's encoding is still undecided. I'm now working on various bug-fixing and improvement of rmail's mime handling, and fixing the above is included in the work. The problem is that which coding system to set if the header and each text part of multipart have different "charset". At the moment, I'm going to commit a code that set the FIRST coding system used for decoding some part (header, parts of multipart, forwarded message, etc). --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 03:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129221166623832 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 13 Dec 2010 03:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Dec 2010 03:41:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRzHe-0006CJ-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:41:06 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRzHZ-0006BY-5Q for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:41:05 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LDC00200KSSGP00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 05:47:09 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.167.122]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LDC0013BL6KPAD0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 05:47:09 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 05:47:07 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83aakaibb8.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 09:29:01 +0900 > > I'm now working on various bug-fixing and improvement of > rmail's mime handling, and fixing the above is included in > the work. Thank you. > The problem is that which coding system to set if the header and > each text part of multipart have different "charset". At the > moment, I'm going to commit a code that set the FIRST coding system > used for decoding some part (header, parts of multipart, forwarded > message, etc). That might be a good logic. The important thing here is to DTRT as much as possible wrt replying to the message: rmail-reply sets the buffer for composing the response to be encoded in the same encoding as the original message. So whatever you do in the Rmail buffer when you display the message should yield an encoding most probably suitable for the reply. TIA From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12938802975175 (code B ref 7626); Sat, 01 Jan 2011 11:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Jan 2011 11:11:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYzN2-0001LL-PE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:11:37 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PYzMv-0001L6-KN for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 06:11:30 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LEC00H00CH4UV00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:18:29 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.219.104]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LEC00FIRCQSJKS0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:18:29 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:20:38 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) The new Rmail/Rmail-MIME code (revision 100323 on the emacs-23 branch) solved most of the problems originally reported here, but it still has some issues. Here are the problems I see with the new code, based on less than an hour of testing: . If the message has an explicit specification of its charset, the EOL type of the RMAIL buffer is left unspecified (displayed as `:' in the mode line). By contrast, when there's no charset= spec, the EOL type is correctly set to -unix. . Sometimes, the RMAIL buffer's encoding is set to windows-1252, which is not present anywhere in the message headers. The only source of non-ASCII characters in the 2 messages where I saw this problem was in the RFC 2047 encoded addresses, but those used 8859-1, as in "Jan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dj=E4rv?=", not windows-1252. `describe-text-properties' indeed shows the charset of the decoded address as windows-1252, so the reason is probably somewhere in `rfc2047-decode-region'. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129482943132015 (code B ref 7626); Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2011 10:50:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PcyHe-0008KI-Fp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:50:31 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PcyHb-0008K4-By for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 05:50:29 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LEW00100P3EWH00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:57:48 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.131.253]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LEW00NMXP4A44B0@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:57:48 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:57:50 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7651@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 15:22:14 +0900 > > By the way, I can't reproduce the incorrect setting of > buffer-file-coding-system. You mean, the one with cp1252 I reported in bug#7626? Or the one with EOL being undecided? I guess the former. > Could you "recend" the > problematic mail, and let me know the subject line in > another mail so that I can identify that problematic mail. I attach one such message below (indented 2 columns). This is an even worse offender: the message headers clearly say that it's in ISO-8859-1, but I still get cp1252 in the Rmail buffer. I don't know where that value comes from. FWIW, my default-buffer-file-coding-system is iso-latin-1-dos and w32-system-coding-system is cp1255. 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Cc: u.s.reddy@cs.bham.ac.uk, emacs user , emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 7517@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7517: 24.0.50; repeated crash under Mac OS X X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Copy: yes Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+eliz=gnu.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+eliz=gnu.org@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES: -D------ Done. Jan D. Chong Yidong skrev 2011-01-02 15.02: > "Jan D." writes: > >> Eli Zaretskii skrev 2011-01-01 16:40: >> >>> right? >>> >>> I guess this bug report can be closed now. Any objections? >> >> No. > > Please backport the fix to the emacs-23 branch, thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129488124813871 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2011 01:14:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdBlP-0003bf-T2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:14:08 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdBlN-0003b2-BC for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:14:07 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0D1LYDP000050; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:34 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0D1LYOn013755; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:34 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0D1LX3E029761; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdBsb-0001w9-72; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:57:50 +0200) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > You mean, the one with cp1252 I reported in bug#7626? Or the one > with EOL being undecided? I guess the former. Yes. > I attach one such message below (indented 2 columns). This is an even > worse offender: the message headers clearly say that it's in > ISO-8859-1, but I still get cp1252 in the Rmail buffer. I don't know > where that value comes from. FWIW, my default-buffer-file-coding-system > is iso-latin-1-dos and w32-system-coding-system is cp1255. I found that rfc2047-decode-region (called while preparing the message header) sets last-coding-system-used to windows-1252. That is because mm-util.el defines mm-charset-override-alist as this: '((gb2312 . gbk) (iso-8859-1 . windows-1252) (iso-8859-8 . windows-1255) (iso-8859-9 . windows-1254)) And explains it as this: i.e. treat iso-8859-1 as windows-1252. windows-1252 is a superset of iso-8859-1." At the moment, I don't know how (or where) to fix this problem, but at least, it seems that setting buffer-file-coding-system to windows-1252 for iso-8859-1 message won't cause an actual problem. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129492030814657 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 13 Jan 2011 12:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2011 12:05:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdLvP-0003oM-KY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:05:07 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdLvN-0003nq-1j for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:05:05 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdM2b-00011L-Cr; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:12:33 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0900) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:12:33 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 10:21:33 +0900 > > I found that rfc2047-decode-region (called while preparing > the message header) sets last-coding-system-used to > windows-1252. That is because mm-util.el defines > mm-charset-override-alist as this: > > '((gb2312 . gbk) > (iso-8859-1 . windows-1252) > (iso-8859-8 . windows-1255) > (iso-8859-9 . windows-1254)) > > And explains it as this: > > i.e. treat iso-8859-1 as windows-1252. windows-1252 is a > superset of iso-8859-1." I guess this is because some broken mailers state Latin-N while actually using the corresponding Windows codepage, and when the message includes characters not in Latin-N, they are not displayed correctly. But even if we keep this "feature" (see below for an alternative suggestion), I don't see a need to force this on users. We should have a user option to do this. Personally, I think it should be off by default, but if someone feels strongly about that, I won't mind having it on by default, in which case I will customize it on my system. > At the moment, I don't know how (or where) to fix this > problem, but at least, it seems that setting > buffer-file-coding-system to windows-1252 for iso-8859-1 > message won't cause an actual problem. It's surprising and kludgey, IMO. A better solution would be to decode by windows-12XX, but set last-coding-system-used to Latin-N. That way, only if I reuse the text that is not encodable by Latin-N, I will need to do something. Otherwise, I get to have the cake and eat it, too. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129497854416526 (code B ref 7626); Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2011 04:15:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pdb4h-0004IV-Ou for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:15:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pdb4e-0004IE-KI for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:15:42 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4NCIU000849; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:12 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4NC40005534; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:12 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4NBGC025488; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:11 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdbBv-0004Rg-Dw; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:11 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 13 Jan 2011 07:12:33 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:11 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > At the moment, I don't know how (or where) to fix this > > problem, but at least, it seems that setting > > buffer-file-coding-system to windows-1252 for iso-8859-1 > > message won't cause an actual problem. > It's surprising and kludgey, IMO. A better solution would be to > decode by windows-12XX, but set last-coding-system-used to Latin-N. > That way, only if I reuse the text that is not encodable by Latin-N, I > will need to do something. Otherwise, I get to have the cake and eat > it, too. I don't want to modify rfc2047.el nor mm-util.el now. So, I've just installed a little bit inefficient workaround which does this: After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. After decoding a whole message, if rmail-mime-coding-system is a cons (i.e. only a header part is decoded), re-decode the header while binding mm-charset-override-alist to nil, and set rmail-mime-coding-system to last-coding-system-used. Set buffer-file-coding-system to rmail-mime-coding-system. By this, encoding specified for a body always takes precedence which I think is the right thing. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129497884016964 (code B ref 7626); Fri, 14 Jan 2011 04:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2011 04:20:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pdb9U-0004PZ-1M for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:20:40 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pdb9R-0004PN-Sj for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:20:38 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4SAu4003092; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp4.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4SAHI006568; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp4.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0E4SAtN003091; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PdbGk-0004SB-6W; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 01 Jan 2011 13:20:38 +0200) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > . If the message has an explicit specification of its charset, the > EOL type of the RMAIL buffer is left unspecified (displayed as `:' > in the mode line). By contrast, when there's no charset= spec, the > EOL type is correctly set to -unix. I think the buffer-file-coding-system of rmail buffer should leave the EOL type unspecified in any cases. So I added this code: (set-buffer-file-coding-system (coding-system-base rmail-mime-coding-system) t t)) --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129502530023296 (code B ref 7626); Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:15:03 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2011 17:15:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdnEq-00063g-48 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:15:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdnEn-00063P-Ol for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:14:58 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PdnM6-00077h-27; Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:22:30 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:22:30 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:28:10 +0900 > > In article <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > . If the message has an explicit specification of its charset, the > > EOL type of the RMAIL buffer is left unspecified (displayed as `:' > > in the mode line). By contrast, when there's no charset= spec, the > > EOL type is correctly set to -unix. > > I think the buffer-file-coding-system of rmail buffer should > leave the EOL type unspecified in any cases. Why would this be useful? In any case, this is a change in behavior from previous Rmail versions. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:15:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129522690128466 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:15:03 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2011 01:15:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PedgS-0007P5-Lg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:15:00 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PedgP-0007Oo-2k for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 16 Jan 2011 20:14:58 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0H1Man2020847; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:36 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0H1Mapx013645; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:36 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0H1MZf9017768; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:35 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pednn-0001ES-Ok; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:35 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Fri, 14 Jan 2011 12:22:30 -0500) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:35 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > I think the buffer-file-coding-system of rmail buffer should > > leave the EOL type unspecified in any cases. > Why would this be useful? In any case, this is a change in behavior > from previous Rmail versions. Rmail-mime does not perform file I/O, but decodes a text that is already stored in a mbox buffer. So, we don't have any information about by what kind of EOL format the decoded text should be encoded out to a file. If we leave the EOL type unspecified, it will be encoded by whatever EOL format defined for the current system. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129526192411405 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2011 10:58:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PemnL-0002xu-Mb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 05:58:43 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PemnJ-0002xh-UQ for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 05:58:42 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pemui-00053A-Iv; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:06:20 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:35 +0900) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:06:20 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:22:35 +0900 > > Rmail-mime does not perform file I/O, but decodes a text > that is already stored in a mbox buffer. But the mbox format uses Unix EOLs. In fact, Rmail will barf if you say "C-u g FILE RET", and FILE has DOS EOLs. So the EOL format is known in advance in this case. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129526368413916 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2011 11:28:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PenFj-0003cP-Ah for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:28:03 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PenFe-0003bo-Oh for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:28:00 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0HBZdgR021206; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:39 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0HBZdHc024400; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:39 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0HBZcoU025907; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:38 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PenN4-00025W-GJ; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:38 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 17 Jan 2011 06:06:20 -0500) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:38 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Rmail-mime does not perform file I/O, but decodes a text > > that is already stored in a mbox buffer. > But the mbox format uses Unix EOLs. On Windows too? I didn't know that. > In fact, Rmail will barf if you > say "C-u g FILE RET", and FILE has DOS EOLs. So the EOL format is > known in advance in this case. Are you arguing that typing 'o' (rmail-output) will write DOS EOL file when EOL type of buffer-file-coding-system of rmail buffer is undecided and the system_eol_type is DOS? Then, isn't it a bug of rmail-output? The reason I decided to leave EOL type undecided is for the case of M-x write-region on rmail buffer. In that case, I think, following system_eol_type is the right thing. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129526659718935 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2011 12:16:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Peo0i-0004vL-Ql for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:16:36 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Peo0g-0004vA-5Q for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:16:34 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Peo84-0006Nu-O4; Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:24:12 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:38 +0900) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:24:12 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:35:38 +0900 > > In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > But the mbox format uses Unix EOLs. > > On Windows too? I didn't know that. It must, because Rmail reads the mbox file or stream with no-conversion. > > In fact, Rmail will barf if you > > say "C-u g FILE RET", and FILE has DOS EOLs. So the EOL format is > > known in advance in this case. > > Are you arguing that typing 'o' (rmail-output) will write > DOS EOL file when EOL type of buffer-file-coding-system of > rmail buffer is undecided and the system_eol_type is DOS? > Then, isn't it a bug of rmail-output? That's a separate issue. I just don't like seeing a buffer whose file was read with no-conversion show ":" as the EOL mnemonic. It's not a catastrophe, I just don't see why we should change this aspect of Rmail which is how it behaved for several Emacs releases. > The reason I decided to leave EOL type undecided is for the > case of M-x write-region on rmail buffer. In that case, I > think, following system_eol_type is the right thing. But we don't behave like that with buffers that visit files, do we? Why is this use-case different? From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist (was: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently) Resent-From: Reiner Steib Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Reply-To: Reiner Steib Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129533759625275 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 08:00:03 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 07:59:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6Ts-0006Zb-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:59:56 -0500 Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf6To-0006ZN-Bg for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 02:59:53 -0500 Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0I87YjS004467; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:34 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E76110852; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:34 +0100 (CET) From: Reiner Steib References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Followup-To: Kenichi Handa , Eli Zaretskii , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:30 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:23:11 +0900") Message-ID: <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-DCC-dmv.com-Metrics: poseidon 1181; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) On Fri, Jan 14 2011, Kenichi Handa wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I guess this is because some broken mailers state Latin-N while >> actually using the corresponding Windows codepage, and when the >> message includes characters not in Latin-N, they are not displayed >> correctly. Exactly. >> But even if we keep this "feature" (see below for an alternative >> suggestion), I don't see a need to force this on users. We should >> have a user option to do this. Personally, I think it should be off >> by default, but if someone feels strongly about that, I won't mind >> having it on by default, in which case I will customize it on my >> system. I think `mm-charset-override-alist' should be on by default. Before I added (back in 2005) we frequently had complains about "why doesn't Gnus display this article correctly?". I don't recall any real problems with this. >> > At the moment, I don't know how (or where) to fix this >> > problem, but at least, it seems that setting >> > buffer-file-coding-system to windows-1252 for iso-8859-1 >> > message won't cause an actual problem. > >> It's surprising and kludgey, IMO. A better solution would be to >> decode by windows-12XX, but set last-coding-system-used to Latin-N. >> That way, only if I reuse the text that is not encodable by Latin-N, I >> will need to do something. Otherwise, I get to have the cake and eat >> it, too. > > I don't want to modify rfc2047.el nor mm-util.el now. Thank you. (I don't have an opinion about what Rmail should do.) Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129535060214086 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 11:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 11:36:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf9rd-0003f9-MJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:36:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf9rb-0003ev-52 for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 06:36:40 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0IBiMwN026525; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:22 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp3.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0IBiMbS001043; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:22 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp3.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0IBiLDi029676; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:21 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pf9z3-0003sm-MS; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:21 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:24:12 -0500) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:21 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > That's a separate issue. I just don't like seeing a buffer whose file > was read with no-conversion show ":" as the EOL mnemonic. After the change of rmail to mbox-base, the buffer whose file was read with no-conversion is " *message-viewer RMAIL*", and the buffer "RMAIL" is what showing the decoding result of a part of " *message-viewer RMAIL*". Even if you see "-1:" or "-1(unix)" in the modeline, it doesn't mean the mbox file is read with iso-8859-1. So, I don't understand why you so much care EOL part even if you don't care that the text-encoding part is shown as "1" (meaning iso-8859-1) instead of "=" (meaning no-conversion). > It's not a > catastrophe, I just don't see why we should change this aspect of > Rmail which is how it behaved for several Emacs releases. I haven't realized that the change results in the actual difference on screen on Windows. On GNU/Linux, both *-unix and undecided are indicated by ":". Anyway, if Windows users are already familiar with seeing "(unix)" in the modeline of RMAIL buffer, don't want to change it, and want to make M-x write-region to write out a region of RMAIL buffer with Unix-style EOL as before, I'll change the current behavior. > > The reason I decided to leave EOL type undecided is for the > > case of M-x write-region on rmail buffer. In that case, I > > think, following system_eol_type is the right thing. > But we don't behave like that with buffers that visit files, do we? Of course no, because in that case, it's the right thing to follow the file's EOL format. But, when you open a new buffer, write a few lines of text, and save some region into a file, the EOL type of the saved file is CRLF on Windows. > Why is this use-case different? As I wrote above, RMAIL buffer's buffer-file-coding-system doesn't reflect how the corresponding mbox file is read. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist (was: bug#7626: bug#7651: 23.2.91; Rmail doesn't allow displaying text attachments conveniently) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reiner Steib Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, handa@m17n.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12953629782132 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 15:02:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfD5A-0000YD-Bz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:02:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfD57-0000Y0-Hr for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:02:50 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfDCZ-0002wo-7H; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:10:31 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (message from Reiner Steib on Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:30 +0100) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:10:31 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Reiner Steib > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Reply-To: Reiner Steib > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 09:07:30 +0100 > > I think `mm-charset-override-alist' should be on by default. Before I > added (back in 2005) we frequently had complains about "why doesn't > Gnus display this article correctly?". I don't recall any real > problems with this. 2005 was 6 years ago. Perhaps things changed since then. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12953637533182 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:16:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 15:15:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfDHi-0000pG-UU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:15:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfDHg-0000p4-PH for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:15:49 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfDP9-0003ub-E7; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:23:31 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:21 +0900) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:23:31 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 20:44:21 +0900 > > I haven't realized that the change results in the actual > difference on screen on Windows. On GNU/Linux, both *-unix > and undecided are indicated by ":". > > Anyway, if Windows users are already familiar with seeing > "(unix)" in the modeline of RMAIL buffer, don't want to > change it, and want to make M-x write-region to write out a > region of RMAIL buffer with Unix-style EOL as before, I'll > change the current behavior. I don't know about others. I'm familiar (and I customized the Unix EOL mnemonic to just "/"). It's up to you. You can close the bug if you want. Thanks for working on this. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner Steib Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129537319516512 (code B ref 7626); Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2011 17:53:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfFk3-0004IH-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:53:15 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfFk1-0004I3-8p for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:53:13 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAGdkNU1FpZLq/2dsb2JhbACkU3TCQIVQBIRvjjY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,339,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="88419303" Received: from 69-165-146-234.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.146.234]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 18 Jan 2011 13:00:59 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 3F44A66102; Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:00:59 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:00:59 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:10:31 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >> I think `mm-charset-override-alist' should be on by default. Before I >> added (back in 2005) we frequently had complains about "why doesn't >> Gnus display this article correctly?". I don't recall any real >> problems with this. > 2005 was 6 years ago. Perhaps things changed since then. AFAIK, none of the root causes for these problems have changed. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Reiner Steib Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Reply-To: Reiner Steib Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129547177312594 (code B ref 7626); Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2011 21:16:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PffO0-0003H5-Qb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:13 -0500 Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PffNy-0003Gs-MI for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 16:16:11 -0500 Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p0JLNw53021953; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23:58 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E676910867; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23:57 +0100 (CET) From: Reiner Steib References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Followup-To: Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:00:59 -0500") Message-ID: <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 X-DCC-x.dcc-servers-Metrics: poseidon 104; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mail.uni-ulm.de id p0JLNw53021953 X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) On Tue, Jan 18 2011, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> I think `mm-charset-override-alist' should be on by default. Before = I >>> added (back in 2005) we frequently had complains about "why doesn't >>> Gnus display this article correctly?". I don't recall any real >>> problems with this. > >> 2005 was 6 years ago. Perhaps things changed since then. > > AFAIK, none of the root causes for these problems have changed. I agree. I found around 40 articles declared as iso-8859-* which contain #x80 (the position of the EUR sign =A4 in windows-1252) in my local leafnode news spool which contains mostly technical usenet groups (comp.*, de.comp.*, de.comm.*, ...) and mailing list from gmane.org. Bye, Reiner. --=20 ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Reiner Steib Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129548354629068 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 00:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 00:32:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfiRt-0007Yn-IN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:32:25 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfiRr-0007Yb-Cg for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:32:23 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfiZM-0005hs-Sq; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> (message from Reiner Steib on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23:55 +0100) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Reiner Steib > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Reply-To: Reiner Steib > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:23:55 +0100 > > I found around 40 articles declared as iso-8859-* which > contain #x80 (the position of the EUR sign ¤ in windows-1252) in my > local leafnode news spool which contains mostly technical usenet > groups (comp.*, de.comp.*, de.comm.*, ...) and mailing list from > gmane.org. 40 out of how many? Anyway, Rmail is about reading mail, not about reading news groups. rmail-reply uses the encoding of the message replied to for setting the encoding of the reply. This "feature" makes me reply with a windows-12xx encoding to someone whose sole "fault" is that she has Latin-X characters in her name, which is RFC-2047 encoded in the From: header. This is ugly and unnecessary. Emacs should not do this unless the problematic characters are really present in the message. I guess I will simply customize away mm-charset-override-alist, if no one shares these concerns. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner Steib Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12954881592992 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:50:03 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 01:49:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjeI-0000mD-Q8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:49:18 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjeG-0000m2-SW for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:49:17 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEADslN01FpZLq/2dsb2JhbACkSHS9MoVQBIRvjjc X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,347,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="88665212" Received: from 69-165-146-234.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.146.234]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 19 Jan 2011 20:57:05 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7BDA966102; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:57:05 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:57:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Anyway, Rmail is about reading mail, not about reading news groups. > rmail-reply uses the encoding of the message replied to for setting > the encoding of the reply. Sounds like a problem in rmail-reply, then. E.g. what happens if the reply includes chars that aren't covered by that coding-system? Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12954886813682 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:58:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 01:58:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfjmi-0000xK-0g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:58:00 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfjme-0000x5-Jh for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:57:58 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K25h2T014147; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:44 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K25hS9016916; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:43 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K25g9f006230; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjuA-0007At-Qs; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > I guess I will simply customize away mm-charset-override-alist, if no > one shares these concerns. I think you don't need that with the latest code. I wrote: > I don't want to modify rfc2047.el nor mm-util.el now. So, > I've just installed a little bit inefficient workaround > which does this: > After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is > nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). > After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil > or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. > After decoding a whole message, if rmail-mime-coding-system > is a cons (i.e. only a header part is decoded), re-decode > the header while binding mm-charset-override-alist to nil, > and set rmail-mime-coding-system to last-coding-system-used. > Set buffer-file-coding-system to rmail-mime-coding-system. Have you tried it? --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12954888653970 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:02:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 02:01:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfjph-00011y-9f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:01:05 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfjpf-00011W-My for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:01:04 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjxB-0003HF-P4; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:08:49 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:57:05 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:08:49 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Reiner Steib , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 20:57:05 -0500 > > > rmail-reply uses the encoding of the message replied to for setting > > the encoding of the reply. > > Sounds like a problem in rmail-reply, then. If you have a better alternative for guessing the suitable encoding of the reply, please suggest it. For me, it works in 99% of cases. > E.g. what happens if the reply includes chars that aren't covered by > that coding-system? As usual in Emacs: when you hit "C-c C-s" or "C-c C-c", Emacs asks for a suitable encoding, showing the unencodable characters in a pop-up buffer. The message is sent using the encoding you selected once you select it (and Emacs verified that it can encode every character). From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12954890994274 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 02:04:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjtT-00016t-Kw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:04:59 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfjtS-00016i-1W for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:04:58 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfk0y-0003Pf-Hi; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:12:44 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:12:44 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: Reiner.Steib@gmx.de, 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900 > > > After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is > > nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). > > > After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil > > or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. What is CODING-SYSTEM here? > > After decoding a whole message, if rmail-mime-coding-system > > is a cons (i.e. only a header part is decoded), re-decode > > the header while binding mm-charset-override-alist to nil, > > and set rmail-mime-coding-system to last-coding-system-used. > > > Set buffer-file-coding-system to rmail-mime-coding-system. > > Have you tried it? Not yet. I'm traveling, and I'm using the 23.2.91 pretest at the moment, where the above doesn't exist. I will try this as soon as I can. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12954899745461 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:20:03 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 02:19:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfk7Z-0001Q2-R5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:19:34 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfk7Y-0001Pq-0Z for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:19:32 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfkF4-0004W8-9i for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:27:18 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:27:18 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Eli Zaretskii > Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2011 19:40:08 -0500 > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii > > rmail-reply uses the encoding of the message replied to for setting > the encoding of the reply. Sorry, that was inaccurate and misleading. It's not rmail-reply, it's mail-yank-original who does that, and it only does it if the encoding of the reply buffer is the default buffer-file-coding-system (i.e. was not yet set in any non-trivial way). Here's the relevant part of mail-yank-original: ;; If they yank the original text, the encoding of the ;; original message is a better default than ;; the default buffer-file-coding-system. (and (coding-system-equal (default-value 'buffer-file-coding-system) buffer-file-coding-system) (setq buffer-file-coding-system (coding-system-change-text-conversion buffer-file-coding-system (coding-system-base (with-current-buffer original buffer-file-coding-system)))))) The logic behind this is that if your reply cites the original, it had better start with the encoding of that original. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129549505612459 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 03:44:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PflRX-0003Eu-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:44:15 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PflRU-0003Eg-SI for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:44:14 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3q0iK029194; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:52:00 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3q0Hd008501; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:52:00 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3q0EW021643; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:52:00 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PflZ2-0007L9-2A; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:52:00 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:12:44 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:51:59 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is > > > nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). > > > > > After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil > > > or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. > What is CODING-SYSTEM here? For a header part, last-coding-system-used set by rfc2047-decode-region. For a body part, a coding system implied by MIME charset, or if it's not valid, whatever Emacs detected. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129549513512589 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 03:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 03:45:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PflSn-0003H0-Ug for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:45:34 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PflSm-0003Go-2d for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:45:32 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3rL7r029684; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:53:21 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3rKkh008640; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:53:20 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p0K3rKmJ022066; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:53:20 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PflaK-0007LF-LH; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:53:20 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:23:31 -0500) References: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> <83tyhsq395.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 12:53:20 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article , Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Anyway, if Windows users are already familiar with seeing > > "(unix)" in the modeline of RMAIL buffer, don't want to > > change it, and want to make M-x write-region to write out a > > region of RMAIL buffer with Unix-style EOL as before, I'll > > change the current behavior. > I don't know about others. I'm familiar (and I customized the Unix > EOL mnemonic to just "/"). > It's up to you. You can close the bug if you want. Then please just advice me which is better for general Windows users; write-region on RMAIL buffer writes out a file of DOS-style EOL or Unix-style EOL. If it's the former, I'll keep the current behavior. Otherwise I'll change it back. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129553708812443 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:25:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 15:24:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfwNU-0003Ee-9f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:24:48 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfwNS-0003ET-HE for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:24:47 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAD/kN01FpZLq/2dsb2JhbACkUHS+MoVQBIRvjjg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.60,351,1291611600"; d="scan'208";a="88709052" Received: from 69-165-146-234.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.165.146.234]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 20 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8124866102; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 19 Jan 2011 21:08:49 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >> > rmail-reply uses the encoding of the message replied to for setting >> > the encoding of the reply. >> Sounds like a problem in rmail-reply, then. > If you have a better alternative for guessing the suitable encoding of > the reply, please suggest it. For me, it works in 99% of cases. Using message.el ;-) >> E.g. what happens if the reply includes chars that aren't covered by >> that coding-system? > As usual in Emacs: when you hit "C-c C-s" or "C-c C-c", Emacs asks for > a suitable encoding, showing the unencodable characters in a pop-up > buffer. The message is sent using the encoding you selected once you > select it (and Emacs verified that it can encode every character). I guess that's workable. Stefan From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Monnier Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129553740312968 (code B ref 7626); Thu, 20 Jan 2011 15:30:04 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jan 2011 15:30:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfwSX-0003N6-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:30:01 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PfwSW-0003Ml-2O for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:30:00 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pfwa3-0007HH-TM; Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:37:47 -0500 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0500) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:37:47 -0500 X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Reiner.Steib@gmx.de, 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:32:37 -0500 > > > If you have a better alternative for guessing the suitable encoding of > > the reply, please suggest it. For me, it works in 99% of cases. > > Using message.el ;-) If someone could explain its logic in setting the encoding of a reply, I might consider that. I tried once to understand what it does, but quickly got lost in a maze of twisty little passages all alike. When I insert the citation from the original message, the buffer's encoding is invariably UTF-8, which is not TRT from my POV. Maybe this gets fixed before sending, but I got lost there. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129691251212935 (code B ref 7626); Sat, 05 Feb 2011 13:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Feb 2011 13:28:32 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PliBj-0003MZ-Sx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 08:28:32 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PliBh-0003ML-Om for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 08:28:30 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LG500100CD2ZN00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:36:41 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.97.124]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LG5001HDCH3I5F0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:36:40 +0200 (IST) Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:36:49 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il Message-id: <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: Reiner.Steib@gmx.de, 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 11:05:42 +0900 > > > I don't want to modify rfc2047.el nor mm-util.el now. So, > > I've just installed a little bit inefficient workaround > > which does this: > > > After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is > > nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). > > > After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil > > or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. > > > After decoding a whole message, if rmail-mime-coding-system > > is a cons (i.e. only a header part is decoded), re-decode > > the header while binding mm-charset-override-alist to nil, > > and set rmail-mime-coding-system to last-coding-system-used. > > > Set buffer-file-coding-system to rmail-mime-coding-system. > > Have you tried it? I'm using it now, since it's part of the Emacs 23.2.93 pretest. In general, it seems to work well, but I found one message where it didn't DTRT. This message: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-users/2011-02/msg00003.html is shown with buffer-file-coding-system `us-ascii', whereas I would expect it to be UTF-8, because the From: header is in UTF-8. (I saved the raw message as it was found in my mailbox, in case you'd need it for analysis.) From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.129703902313940 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2011 00:37:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmF6E-0003cm-Uz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:37:03 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmF6C-0003cH-0Q for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2011 19:37:01 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.115]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p170jY1n011169; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:45:34 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp1.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p170jYec013754; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:45:34 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p170jXxV027477; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:45:33 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmFET-000435-Ja; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:45:33 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 05 Feb 2011 15:36:49 +0200) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:45:33 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > In general, it seems to work well, but I found one message where it > didn't DTRT. This message: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-users/2011-02/msg00003.html > is shown with buffer-file-coding-system `us-ascii', whereas I would > expect it to be UTF-8, because the From: header is in UTF-8. > (I saved the raw message as it was found in my mailbox, in case you'd > need it for analysis.) Thank you. Please send it it me. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Kenichi Handa Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12970564645759 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2011 05:27:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmJdY-0001Uq-0f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:27:44 -0500 Received: from mx1.aist.go.jp ([150.29.246.133]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmJdV-0001Ub-6T for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:27:42 -0500 Received: from rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp (rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp [150.29.254.123]) by mx1.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p175aGh9006755 for <7626@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:36:16 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from smtp2.aist.go.jp by rqsmtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p175aGVh011882 for <7626@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:36:16 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: by smtp2.aist.go.jp with ESMTP id p175aGQc009692 for <7626@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 7 Feb 2011 14:36:16 +0900 (JST) env-from (handa@m17n.org) Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmJlo-0004NS-Af for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:36:16 +0900 From: Kenichi Handa In-Reply-To: <8339o0ts6k.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:54:59 +0200) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> <8339o0ts6k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 14:36:16 +0900 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) In article <8339o0ts6k.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-users/2011-02/msg00003.html > > > > > is shown with buffer-file-coding-system `us-ascii', whereas I would > > > expect it to be UTF-8, because the From: header is in UTF-8. > > > > > (I saved the raw message as it was found in my mailbox, in case you'd > > > need it for analysis.) > > > > Thank you. Please send it it me. > Attached. Thank you. In that mail, the first part of body explicitly specifies this: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII So, according to this algorithm: > > After decoding each header, if rmail-mime-coding-system is > > nil, set it to a cons (CODING-SYSTEM . nil). > > > After decoding each body, if rmail-mime-coding-system is nil > > or a cons, set it to CODING-SYSTEM. > > > After decoding a whole message, if rmail-mime-coding-system > > is a cons (i.e. only a header part is decoded), re-decode > > the header while binding mm-charset-override-alist to nil, > > and set rmail-mime-coding-system to last-coding-system-used. > > > Set buffer-file-coding-system to rmail-mime-coding-system. the coding system is decided as us-ascii (the second step above overrides a coding system from header). --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Kenichi Handa Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.12970583388387 (code B ref 7626); Mon, 07 Feb 2011 05:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Feb 2011 05:58:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmK7m-0002BE-C3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:58:58 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PmK7k-0002B0-C2 for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:58:56 -0500 Received: from eliz by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PmKG6-0002Ky-HP; Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:07:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:07:34 -0500 Message-Id: From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:45:33 +0900) References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.5 (------) > From: Kenichi Handa > Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 09:45:33 +0900 > > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/savannah-users/2011-02/msg00003.html > > > is shown with buffer-file-coding-system `us-ascii', whereas I would > > expect it to be UTF-8, because the From: header is in UTF-8. > > > (I saved the raw message as it was found in my mailbox, in case you'd > > need it for analysis.) > > Thank you. Please send it it me. Sent via private email. From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7626 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org, Kenichi Handa Received: via spool by 7626-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7626.131794754832647 (code B ref 7626); Fri, 07 Oct 2011 00:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 7626) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2011 00:32:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RByMV-0008UW-S8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:32:28 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RByMT-0008UP-7P for 7626@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:32:26 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RByMG-0000HP-16; Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:32:12 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Ermes Tony Blair terrorism asset warfare Audiotel kilo X-Ran: NGr"s('YLxlE]%g!!?&g(*ElTFfUk5Di]9J\p^I(2@9=OXf9L(SGKZRp/[(LJJHV5iC-8a X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:32:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:07:34 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) IIUC there were a bunch of rmail changes since this. Is this report still relevant? From unknown Sun Jun 15 08:48:37 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.427 (Entity 5.427) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: bug#7626: closed (Re: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist) Message-ID: References: <8362k1gfrx.fsf@gnu.org> <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 7626 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 7626@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:16:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1317989762-21015-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1317989762-21015-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #7626: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 7626@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 7626: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D7626 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1317989762-21015-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 7626-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Oct 2011 12:15:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RC9Kj-0005S7-L1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:15:21 -0400 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RC9Kg-0005Ru-Nr for 7626-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 08:15:20 -0400 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LSP00I0034EQD00@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 7626-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:14:23 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.124.91.138]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LSP00IIX3BYHVC0@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:14:23 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2011 14:14:26 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7626: mm-charset-override-alist In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <8362k1gfrx.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83vd28q46b.fsf@gnu.org> <83oc7tkv4x.fsf@gnu.org> <83ipxuie35.fsf@gnu.org> <87pqrubpod.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87lj2ga8pg.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <8339o2a9hq.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7626-done Cc: 7626-done@debbugs.gnu.org, handa@m17n.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > From: Glenn Morris > Cc: Kenichi Handa , 7626@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2011 20:32:11 -0400 > > > IIUC there were a bunch of rmail changes since this. Is this report > still relevant? Somewhere along the way, in this message: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7626#56 I said that the bug could be closed. I hope that expresses my answer clearly enough ;-) So I'm closing it now. ------------=_1317989762-21015-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2010 22:15:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuCA-0006GN-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:15:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuC7-0006Fh-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:15:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI3-0005RK-HT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:12 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:56360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI3-0005RG-FC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43467 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PRuI2-0004rq-ET for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:11 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI1-0005R4-6Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:10 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]:41080) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PRuI1-0005Qv-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Dec 2010 17:21:09 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LDC000005TW4J00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:20:56 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.142.197]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LDC00MW562UAP90@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:20:56 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 00:21:12 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: 23.2.91; Rmail shows incorrect message encoding in the mode line X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-id: <83ei9miqef.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.2 (----) The new rmail-mime feature causes Rmail to set buffer-file-coding-system to an incorrect value. Expected result: buffer-file-coding-system is according to the charset= header, but in fact buffer-file-coding-system is almost always set to undecided. This is a regression from Emacs 23.2.90. Also, once the headers were decoded by rfc2047-decode-region, it would be good to set buffer-file-coding-system to last-coding-system-used, if the buffer's encoding is still undecided. In GNU Emacs 23.2.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-12-11 on HOME-C4E4A596F7 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: ENU value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: cp1255 default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: RMAIL Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t temp-buffer-resize-mode: t line-number-mode: t Recent input: C-x b I N B M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: setting up indent stuff Indentation variables are now local. Indentation setup for shell type sh Setting up indent for shell type sh setting up indent stuff Indentation variables are now local. Indentation setup for shell type sh Note: file is write protected [3 times] Wrote d:/usr/eli/.emacs.desktop.lock Desktop: 234 buffers restored. Load-path shadows: None found. 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