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31.0.50; calc units error

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From: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 12:45:38 +0100

Steps:

emacs -Q
M-x calc
' 10 cm

Error:
"Unknown name ln in defining expression for dB"


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Message #8 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc> çağlar
 girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 15:29:28 +0200

> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 12:45:38 +0100
> From:  çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
>  çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Steps:
> 
> emacs -Q
> M-x calc
> ' 10 cm
> 
> Error:
> "Unknown name ln in defining expression for dB"

Thanks, but I cannot reproduce this error.  Are you sure you didn't
omit anything from the steps?

Message #11 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 14:04:49 +0200

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> From: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 22:42:25 +0100
> 
> Thanks for getting back to me.  I didn't omit anything.  Maybe 
> it's a problem with my setup.  I removed the elc files and started 
> an edebug and found that the error happens when trying to build 
> the units table (math-standard-units in calc-units.el) when it 
> encounters the entry:
>     ( dB      "(ln(10)/20) Np" "decibel"))
> 
> Instrumenting math-find-base-units-rec, I found that the following 
> clause executes when parsing the string "(ln(10)/20) Np"
> 
> 	  ((eq (car expr) 'var)
> 	   (or (eq (nth 1 expr) 'pi)
> 	       (error "Unknown name %s in defining expression for 
> 	       unit %s"
> 		      (nth 1 expr) (car math-fbu-entry))))
> 
> So for some reason it considers 'ln' as a variable, like 'pi'.  If 
> I replace '(ln(10)/20)' by its numerical value in the units table, 
> there is no error anymore.  I guess '(ln(10)/20)' is not being 
> correctly evaluated as an expression while parsing the units 
> table?

If you haven't omitted anything from the steps, then I don't
understand why I don't see the problem.  And since I don't see the
problem, I cannot correlate what you say above with the problem.

Here's what I see after performing the steps you describe in Emacs 31:

[Screenshot 2025-01-27 140133.png (image/png, attachment)]

[Message part 3 (text/plain, inline)]

I don't even understand where would the dB units come into play here.

Maybe this is macOS-specific?  can anyone else reproduce the problem?

Message #14 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>,
 çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 06:24:28 -0600

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Maybe this is macOS-specific?  can anyone else reproduce the problem?

I can't reproduce this on macOS; I get the same as what is in the
screenshot you posted.

Message #17 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> suse.de>
To: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc> çağlar
 girit via "Bug reports for GNU
 Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Cc: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:32:44 +0100

Do you have anything in ~/.emacs.d/calc.el (calc-settings-file)?

-- 
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Message #20 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> suse.de>
Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:18:20 +0100

You were right!  The line causing the problem was

(setq calc-language 'math)

Which put calc in Mathematica mode and changed how it interpreted 
math expressions with functions, such as "ln" or "sin".

I don't know how this line appeared in my .emacs.d/calc.el.

calc's definition of the dB unit includes "ln(10)", and calc 
builds the units table before evaluating certain algebraic 
expressions.  This resulted in the original error message I 
submitted.

My apologies.

On 2025-01-27 at 13:32:44, Andreas Schwab wrote:

> Do you have anything in ~/.emacs.d/calc.el (calc-settings-file)?

-- 
çög

Message #23 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
Cc: schwab <at> suse.de, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 18:37:53 +0200

> Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:18:20 +0100
> From:  çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> You were right!  The line causing the problem was
> 
> (setq calc-language 'math)
> 
> Which put calc in Mathematica mode and changed how it interpreted 
> math expressions with functions, such as "ln" or "sin".

Thanks for telling us.

Is Calc supposed to signal an error when you type "' 10 cm" in
Mathematica mode, or is that still some (other) kind of bug?

> I don't know how this line appeared in my .emacs.d/calc.el.
> 
> calc's definition of the dB unit includes "ln(10)", and calc 
> builds the units table before evaluating certain algebraic 
> expressions.  This resulted in the original error message I 
> submitted.
> 
> My apologies.

No need to apologize, anyone could make a mistake.

Message #26 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: schwab <at> suse.de, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 23:20:51 +0100

I can reproduce the bug as follows:

emacs -Q  ;; without .emacs.d/calc.el file
M-x calc  
d M  ;; calc-mathematica-language
' 10 cm ;; algebraic entry
u s  ;; calc-simplify-units
Error "Unknown name ln in defining expression for unit dB"

In other calc language modes, it seems to work fine although I 
didn't test exhaustively.

The error arises because in calc-mathematica-language, algebraic 
entry of "ln(10)" doesn't yield  the numerical value 
2.30258509299, but rather "10 ln" which means 10 times some 
variable "ln".

The expression "ln(10)" is hardcoded in the units table in 
calc-units.el.  When calc-simplify-units executes, it builds the 
units table and attempts to evaluate "ln(10)" (line 317) when 
deriving the SI equivalent of a dB.  Since "ln(10)" is incorrectly 
evaluated in mathematica language mode, there is an error.

So perhaps there is a bug somewhere in the Mathematica language 
implementation, starting at calc-lang.el line 1816, but difficult 
for me to find.

On 2025-01-27 at 18:37:53, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> Cc: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 17:18:20 +0100
>> From:  çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
>> 
>> You were right!  The line causing the problem was
>> 
>> (setq calc-language 'math)
>> 
>> Which put calc in Mathematica mode and changed how it 
>> interpreted 
>> math expressions with functions, such as "ln" or "sin".
>
> Thanks for telling us.
>
> Is Calc supposed to signal an error when you type "' 10 cm" in
> Mathematica mode, or is that still some (other) kind of bug?
>
>> I don't know how this line appeared in my .emacs.d/calc.el.
>> 
>> calc's definition of the dB unit includes "ln(10)", and calc 
>> builds the units table before evaluating certain algebraic 
>> expressions.  This resulted in the original error message I 
>> submitted.
>> 
>> My apologies.
>
> No need to apologize, anyone could make a mistake.

-- 
çög

Message #29 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss
 army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Cc: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, schwab <at> suse.de,
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 02:34:35 +0100

çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:

> So perhaps there is a bug somewhere in the Mathematica language
> implementation, starting at calc-lang.el line 1816, but difficult for
> me to find.

AFAIU, this is a more general design problem.  Switching the language
makes all input (in a broader sense) being interpreted as expression in
that language.  Like, interpreting the built-in unit definitions.

If you reverse your recipe so that Calc builds the unit table before you
switch to Mathematica language mode, the issue doesn't appear.


Michael.

Message #35 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: schwab <at> suse.de,
 "çağlar girit via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss
 army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 09:27:15 +0100

On 2025-01-31 at 02:34:35, Michael Heerdegen wrote:

> çağlar girit via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army 
> knife of
> text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org> writes:
>
>> So perhaps there is a bug somewhere in the Mathematica language
>> implementation, starting at calc-lang.el line 1816, but 
>> difficult for
>> me to find.
>
> AFAIU, this is a more general design problem.  Switching the 
> language
> makes all input (in a broader sense) being interpreted as 
> expression in
> that language.  Like, interpreting the built-in unit 
> definitions.
>
> If you reverse your recipe so that Calc builds the unit table 
> before you
> switch to Mathematica language mode, the issue doesn't appear.
>
>
> Michael.

It seems that a better design would always interpret built-in 
expressions in the default language.  Or better yet warn that the 
units functionality is only available in the default language. 
Since '1 cm' doesn't mean anything in the other languages anyway.

-- 
çög

Message #41 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>
Cc: schwab <at> suse.de, eliz <at> gnu.org, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2025 00:37:38 +0100

Hello,

Ulrich, you were the last one to change code in "calc-units.el" so I
just CC you here if you don't mind... if you get the chance, could you
maybe have a look into this issue?

> It seems that a better design would always interpret built-in
> expressions in the default language.  Or better yet warn that the
> units functionality is only available in the default language.

I don't think this is necessary, the combination of unit definition and
language syntax is still a special case.  I would want to try to fix
this.

One simple possibility could be to predefine ln(10) as a math constant
and refer to it in the unit definition.  I think we did something
similar in other places, don't recall the reasons.

> Since '1 cm' doesn't mean anything in the other languages anyway.

Isn't it interpreted the same in all language modes?


Michael.

Message #44 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>,
 Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Cc: cog <at> pelagi.cc, schwab <at> suse.de, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2025 10:43:28 +0200

> From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
> Cc: schwab <at> suse.de,  75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,  eliz <at> gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2025 00:37:38 +0100
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Ulrich, you were the last one to change code in "calc-units.el" so I
> just CC you here if you don't mind... if you get the chance, could you
> maybe have a look into this issue?
> 
> > It seems that a better design would always interpret built-in
> > expressions in the default language.  Or better yet warn that the
> > units functionality is only available in the default language.
> 
> I don't think this is necessary, the combination of unit definition and
> language syntax is still a special case.  I would want to try to fix
> this.
> 
> One simple possibility could be to predefine ln(10) as a math constant
> and refer to it in the unit definition.  I think we did something
> similar in other places, don't recall the reasons.
> 
> > Since '1 cm' doesn't mean anything in the other languages anyway.
> 
> Isn't it interpreted the same in all language modes?

Adding Ulrich.

Message #47 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, schwab <at> suse.de,
 eliz <at> gnu.org, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2025 23:22:41 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

>>>>> On Sat, 01 Feb 2025, Michael Heerdegen wrote:

> One simple possibility could be to predefine ln(10) as a math constant
> and refer to it in the unit definition.  I think we did something
> similar in other places, don't recall the reasons.

This isn't even necessary. calc-math.el already defines math-ln-10, so
we could simply use it.

Something like the attached patch might work. However, I've done only
the most rudimentary testing for it.

[0001-Avoid-ln-10-expression-in-calc-units-definition.patch (text/plain, inline)]

From d8c7776f791d2a25ffdd61e95399f967e1998cb5 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Ulrich=20M=C3=BCller?= <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 23:10:53 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Avoid ln(10) expression in calc units definition

* calc-units.el (math-standard-units): Use new ln10 constant
instead of ln(10) in the decibel definition.
(math-find-base-units-rec): Allow ln10 in expression.
(math-to-standard-rec): Define the ln10 constant.  (Bug#75861)
---
 lisp/calc/calc-units.el | 11 +++++------
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/calc/calc-units.el b/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
index d2396a9b262..a4aaf2e35a0 100644
--- a/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
+++ b/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
@@ -314,7 +314,7 @@ math-standard-units
 
     ;; Logarithmic units
     ( Np      nil    "*Neper")
-    ( dB      "(ln(10)/20) Np" "decibel"))
+    ( dB      "(ln10/20) Np" "decibel"))
   "List of predefined units for Calc.
 
 Each element is (NAME DEF DESC TEMP-UNIT HUMAN-DEF), where:
@@ -948,10 +948,9 @@ math-find-base-units-rec
 	  ((eq (car expr) '+)
 	   (math-find-base-units-rec (nth 1 expr) pow))
 	  ((eq (car expr) 'var)
-	   (or (eq (nth 1 expr) 'pi)
+	   (or (memq (nth 1 expr) '(pi ln10))
 	       (error "Unknown name %s in defining expression for unit %s"
 		      (nth 1 expr) (car math-fbu-entry))))
-          ((equal expr '(calcFunc-ln 10)))
 	  (t (error "Malformed defining expression for unit %s"
                     (car math-fbu-entry))))))
 
@@ -1055,9 +1054,9 @@ math-to-standard-rec
 						math-unit-prefixes))
 				   expr)))
 	      expr)
-	  (if (eq base 'pi)
-	      (math-pi)
-	    expr)))
+	  (cond ((eq base 'pi) (math-pi))
+		((eq base 'ln10) (math-ln-10))
+		(t expr))))
     (if (or
          (Math-primp expr)
          (and (eq (car-safe expr) 'calcFunc-subscr)
-- 
2.48.1

Message #50 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
To: 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>,
 çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, eliz <at> gnu.org,
 Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>, schwab <at> suse.de
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2025 15:01:03 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

>>>>> On Sat, 01 Feb 2025, Ulrich Müller wrote:

> Something like the attached patch might work. However, I've done only
> the most rudimentary testing for it.

An autoload for calc-math was missing; updated patch attached.

Please review.

[0001-Avoid-ln-10-expression-in-calc-units-definition.patch (text/plain, inline)]

From 4a812b1da3ded4cf65a6c053a6969dc86c34d719 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?Ulrich=20M=C3=BCller?= <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 23:10:53 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Avoid ln(10) expression in calc units definition

* lisp/calc/calc-ext.el (calc-init-extensions): Autoload calc-math
for math-ln-10.
* lisp/calc/calc-units.el (math-standard-units): Use new ln10
constant instead of ln(10) in the decibel definition.
(math-find-base-units-rec): Allow ln10 in expression.
(math-to-standard-rec): Define the ln10 constant.  (Bug#75861)
---
 lisp/calc/calc-ext.el   |  2 +-
 lisp/calc/calc-units.el | 12 ++++++------
 2 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/calc/calc-ext.el b/lisp/calc/calc-ext.el
index 4ec96d3ef53..060d352fe66 100644
--- a/lisp/calc/calc-ext.el
+++ b/lisp/calc/calc-ext.el
@@ -877,7 +877,7 @@ calc-init-extensions
 math-arctan2-raw math-cos-raw math-cot-raw math-csc-raw
 math-exp-minus-1-raw math-exp-raw
 math-from-radians math-from-radians-2 math-hypot math-infinite-dir
-math-ln-raw math-nearly-equal math-nearly-equal-float
+math-ln-10 math-ln-raw math-nearly-equal math-nearly-equal-float
 math-nearly-zerop math-nearly-zerop-float math-nth-root
 math-sin-cos-raw math-sin-raw math-sqrt math-sqrt-float math-sqrt-raw
 math-tan-raw math-to-radians math-to-radians-2)
diff --git a/lisp/calc/calc-units.el b/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
index d2396a9b262..54d70bdfd93 100644
--- a/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
+++ b/lisp/calc/calc-units.el
@@ -314,7 +314,8 @@ math-standard-units
 
     ;; Logarithmic units
     ( Np      nil    "*Neper")
-    ( dB      "(ln(10)/20) Np" "decibel"))
+    ( dB      "(ln10/20) Np" "decibel" nil
+              "(ln(10)/20) Np"))
   "List of predefined units for Calc.
 
 Each element is (NAME DEF DESC TEMP-UNIT HUMAN-DEF), where:
@@ -948,10 +949,9 @@ math-find-base-units-rec
 	  ((eq (car expr) '+)
 	   (math-find-base-units-rec (nth 1 expr) pow))
 	  ((eq (car expr) 'var)
-	   (or (eq (nth 1 expr) 'pi)
+	   (or (memq (nth 1 expr) '(pi ln10))
 	       (error "Unknown name %s in defining expression for unit %s"
 		      (nth 1 expr) (car math-fbu-entry))))
-          ((equal expr '(calcFunc-ln 10)))
 	  (t (error "Malformed defining expression for unit %s"
                     (car math-fbu-entry))))))
 
@@ -1055,9 +1055,9 @@ math-to-standard-rec
 						math-unit-prefixes))
 				   expr)))
 	      expr)
-	  (if (eq base 'pi)
-	      (math-pi)
-	    expr)))
+	  (cond ((eq base 'pi) (math-pi))
+		((eq base 'ln10) (math-ln-10))
+		(t expr))))
     (if (or
          (Math-primp expr)
          (and (eq (car-safe expr) 'calcFunc-subscr)
-- 
2.48.1

Message #53 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
To: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Cc: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, schwab <at> suse.de,
 eliz <at> gnu.org, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 02:34:41 +0100

Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org> writes:

> Please review.

Thanks, let's see...

I don't have enough experience with the Calc sources to be able to say
something like "perfect" with certainty.  But your patch certainly does
what I had in mind, plus related tweaks I would have forgotten, with
nothing obviously done wrong.  And it fixes the reported issue for me.

Thx,

Michael.

Message #56 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
To: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen <at> web.de>
Cc: çağlar girit <cog <at> pelagi.cc>, schwab <at> suse.de,
 Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 eliz <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 09:57:30 +0100

>>>>> On Mon, 03 Feb 2025, Michael Heerdegen wrote:

> I don't have enough experience with the Calc sources to be able to say
> something like "perfect" with certainty.  But your patch certainly does
> what I had in mind, plus related tweaks I would have forgotten, with
> nothing obviously done wrong.  And it fixes the reported issue for me.

Should I commit this to master then? (It is too late in the process
for emacs-30, I suppose?)

Message #59 received at 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
Cc: michael_heerdegen <at> web.de, cog <at> pelagi.cc, 75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 schwab <at> suse.de
Subject: Re: bug#75861: 31.0.50; calc units error
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 14:43:40 +0200

> From: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>
> Cc: Ulrich Müller <ulm <at> gentoo.org>,  75861 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
>   çağlar girit
>  <cog <at> pelagi.cc>,  eliz <at> gnu.org,  schwab <at> suse.de
> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2025 09:57:30 +0100
> 
> >>>>> On Mon, 03 Feb 2025, Michael Heerdegen wrote:
> 
> > I don't have enough experience with the Calc sources to be able to say
> > something like "perfect" with certainty.  But your patch certainly does
> > what I had in mind, plus related tweaks I would have forgotten, with
> > nothing obviously done wrong.  And it fixes the reported issue for me.
> 
> Should I commit this to master then? (It is too late in the process
> for emacs-30, I suppose?)

Yes, please install on master, and thanks.

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