From unknown Fri Aug 15 04:03:20 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#75775 <75775@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#75775 <75775@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file' Reply-To: bug#75775 <75775@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:03:20 +0000 retitle 75775 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-= file' reassign 75775 emacs submitter 75775 Zhengyi Fu severity 75775 wishlist tag 75775 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 23 00:46:50 2025 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2025 05:46:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38661 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1taq3G-0005Oq-J0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:46:50 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:470:142::17]:60030) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1taq3D-0005OW-F2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:46:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1taq33-0000ru-7q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:46:37 -0500 Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1taq2z-0003bF-Ql for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 00:46:36 -0500 Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DCD6A1BF203 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:46:26 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fuzy.me; s=gm1; t=1737611187; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type; bh=PkAnlhfmMl+mgpFuWAywjsascsimFPSjKOWpDEq+y/k=; b=fjCrsN0f1uvuEUeKgdycMxWnoHDV9EipJXdgAPttrVDv7M6TbkATXIRvvR+CHEy2PGfvFa d7rYMFWJnukZiVPL1EqRyR5kjSwiHWrus9vk0VO4AIdYnfccGyANuRQF1fzGdU8P44DF8U s9+Hd2GW6lrgPaIBZmesddYgK5BEFlrEhqQY9/qJcI+VpnkueVF4YgUbStCilG8smMyKtZ +1/kQ/M0jBS0ChOkjuuZz+AuPUobEiJKCiNFPAIUHFYB20XqZnDz9sSUJ2KoByFguGVKJG Cl3kVQ2XAdwHK5+PbRycp/HZmW6twODbXHtQKnZcMdHNkw/4gn5NuG/rstGMcw== From: Zhengyi Fu To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file' X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800 Message-ID: <87v7u6ozh4.fsf@hp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-GND-Sasl: id@fuzy.me Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::228; envelope-from=i@fuzy.me; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', which is great. However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=0001-Restore-the-old-behavior-of-bookmark-write-file.patch Content-Description: patch >From f39460bf7de265fcbff23298f37e086106b9683e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Zhengyi Fu Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:35:16 +0800 Subject: [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file' --- lisp/bookmark.el | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/lisp/bookmark.el b/lisp/bookmark.el index b931a4ed2f5..cd59293e0a4 100644 --- a/lisp/bookmark.el +++ b/lisp/bookmark.el @@ -1678,7 +1678,8 @@ bookmark-write-file ;; Rather than a single call to `pp' we make one per bookmark. ;; Apparently `pp' has a poor algorithmic complexity, so this ;; scales a lot better. bug#4485. - (dolist (i bookmark-alist) (pp i (current-buffer))) + (let ((pp-default-function #'pp-28)) + (dolist (i bookmark-alist) (pp i (current-buffer)))) (insert ")\n") ;; Make sure the specified encoding can safely encode the ;; bookmarks. 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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 13:00:03 +0200 Message-Id: <86ikq3upjg.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Zhengyi Fu , Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: <87v7u6ozh4.fsf@hp.com> (message from Zhengyi Fu on Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#75775: 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file' References: <87v7u6ozh4.fsf@hp.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75775 Cc: 75775@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Zhengyi Fu > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800 > > `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', which is > great. However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. Stefan, WDYT? 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However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less > > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch > > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. > > I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default > changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do > it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. > > Stefan, WDYT? > (I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefans Stevens Stephans Stephanes) I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of the packages I help maintain that relies on bookmarks. I prefer easier to harder and I prefer the original format. -Stephane --0000000000009e1937062c866165 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
= On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Zhengyi Fu=C2=A0 <i@fuzy.me>
> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800
>
> `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', wh= ich is
> great.=C2=A0 However, this changed the bookmark format and made it les= s
> human-readable and unfriendly to version control.=C2=A0 =C2=A0This sma= ll patch
> restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'.

I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default changes the whitespace.=C2=A0 But if we do make any changes, we should do it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30.<= br>
Stefan, WDYT?

(I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefa= ns Stevens Stephans Stephanes)

I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of=C2=A0th= e=C2=A0packages I help maintain that=C2=A0relies=C2=A0on bookmarks.

I prefer easier to h= arder and I prefer the original format.

-Stephane
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Looks like someone put in (non-essential t) so that takes care of that. In any case, it seems would be better would be to defer the translation work rather than do it in the defcustom. On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:43=E2=80=AFAM Ship Mints wr= ote: > On Sat, Jan 25, 2025 at 6:01=E2=80=AFAM Eli Zaretskii wrot= e: > >> > From: Zhengyi Fu >> > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 13:45:11 +0800 >> > >> > `pp' now defaults to fill the code to fit in `fill-column', which is >> > great. However, this changed the bookmark format and made it less >> > human-readable and unfriendly to version control. This small patch >> > restores the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file'. >> >> I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default >> changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do >> it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. >> >> Stefan, WDYT? >> > > (I know you meant one of the other 200 Stefans Stevens Stephans Stephanes= ) > > I often hand edit my bookmark files due to one of the packages I help > maintain that relies on bookmarks. > > I prefer easier to harder and I prefer the original format. > > -Stephane > --0000000000001cc04f062c86ca3d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Aha, I spoke to soon about Tramp. Looks like someone put in=C2=A0(non-es= sential t) so that takes care of that.

In any case, it seems would be better would be t= o defer the translation work rather than do it in the defcustom.

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But if we do make any changes, we should do > it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. > > Stefan, WDYT? No specific opinion. My understanding is that we should introduce some kind of `pp-fast` function, but in the mean time hacks like this patch seem fine to me. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jan 25 08:59:27 2025 Received: (at 75775-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2025 13:59:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48997 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbgh4-000108-IH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 08:59:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42894) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbggy-0000zi-F8 for 75775-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 08:59:23 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tbggs-0008EM-Kw; Sat, 25 Jan 2025 08:59:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wTxfT30x0xr1RsdStfdIZvr6QyB156IccLq70WAbyxA=; b=F9J10IKYrFzO mVAb+hZKhPnEk5aUOlB2aJadHtUi+okBbLn24uGvHcypm0Xr6Rps6/BMnZcA48/9e5QxAgBUHf3u/ crGh9moacZv5mrTI6FA/W96ME7vl94/8v5yYy3ITe3xoV/VgBZKydgFGpWGgUUb1DGTkZo7N+X2yf s2A6q6kKsF2hax76zgWZ6WQtdatp+sCj0EndyHe7KyKNLb3uOW4pEjFPjGfA1K/2qiyI+uYO2hvHP 3rX6Z6VSFWfc/uYu1TnistFGOqenNrDgEdbc+naXe6ykGVZT07SYv/y/ME6jukDWWBhtnHeOxxwrb rpAyRmkQK2zVNKsFQtemuA==; Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 15:59:13 +0200 Message-Id: <86zfjft2oe.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 25 Jan 2025 07:18:43 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#75775: 30.0.93; [PATCH] Restore the old behavior of `bookmark-write-file' References: <87v7u6ozh4.fsf@hp.com> <86ikq3upjg.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75775-done Cc: i@fuzy.me, 75775-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: Zhengyi Fu , 75775@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2025 07:18:43 -0500 > > > I'm not sure we should use such kludges just because the new default > > changes the whitespace. But if we do make any changes, we should do > > it ASAP, since the change in pp's behavior was introduced in Emacs 30. > > > > Stefan, WDYT? > > No specific opinion. My understanding is that we should introduce some > kind of `pp-fast` function, but in the mean time hacks like this patch > seem fine to me. Thanks, installed on the emacs-30 branch, and closing the bug. 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