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Message-ID: References: <5b94e077-dd8f-4bfa-87d5-66c52b15e1d1@draigBrady.com> <8e48b6b2-8ed6-4ebd-bfe3-cff03f846655@telfort.nl> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 75763 X-Gnu-PR-Package: coreutils Reply-To: 75763@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 18:00:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1737568802-31583-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1737568802-31583-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #75763: is the "note " particle in sort.c needed? which was filed against the coreutils package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. 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To: Benno Schulenberg , 75763-done@debbugs.gnu.org References: <8e48b6b2-8ed6-4ebd-bfe3-cff03f846655@telfort.nl> Content-Language: en-US From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig_Brady?= In-Reply-To: <8e48b6b2-8ed6-4ebd-bfe3-cff03f846655@telfort.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75763-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) On 22/01/2025 15:31, Benno Schulenberg wrote: > > Hi, > > In src/sort.c there is this piece of code: > > error (0, 0, > _("%snumbers use %s as a decimal point in this locale"), > tab == decimal_point ? "" : _("note "), > quote (((char []) {decimal_point, 0}))); > > What does "note " here mean? Is it an adjective or a verb? Or > maybe something else? And is it needed at all? > > The thing is: it makes translating both strings hard, as it's > unclear for translators that they belong together. Please > consider dropping the "note ", or changing the code to use > two separate, full messages, without fill-in words. "note" (which is a verb in this context), intended to change the message from the standard warning output by --debug to an informational message. But there are other informational messages output by --debug without "note", so we can drop it. I pushed a change to do that. 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