Package: emacs;
Reported by: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 21:24:02 UTC
Severity: minor
Found in version 23.2
Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> Subject: bug#7563: closed (Re: bug#7563: 23.2; `split-string-and-unquote' mis-documented / purpose unclear) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 09:45:03 +0000
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Your bug report #7563: 23.2; `split-string-and-unquote' mis-documented / purpose unclear which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 7563 <at> debbugs.gnu.org. -- 7563: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7563 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs <at> gnu.org with problems
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> To: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> Cc: 7563-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, 1212-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7563: 23.2; `split-string-and-unquote' mis-documented / purpose unclear Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 11:50:35 +0200> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:28:16 -0500 > From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> > Cc: > > This function performs two types of quoting: enclosing a whole > string in double quotes `"..."', and quoting individual characters > with a backslash escape `\'. The latter is also used in Lisp > strings, so this function can handle those as well. > > > First problem: the last paragraph above is simply wrong. > split-string-and-unquote doesn't perform any type of quoting; it > un-quotes. I changed "performs" to "supports". Thanks for catching this. > Second problem: the doc implies that a string that could be executed > by the shell could be split into its constituent arguments by > split-string-and-unquote, but in general, it cannot, e.g.: > > (split-string-and-unquote "'foo bar'") => ("'foo" "bar'") > (split-string-and-unquote "foo\\ bar") => ("foo" "bar") > > I'm not sure what this function is really supposed to be for, but any > implication that it properly handles conversion into shell arguments > is highly misleading. Some motivation should be given for proper use > of split-string-and-unquote, or it should be deprecated. This has come up before; see Bug #1212 and this thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-10/msg00431.html The best explanation I can give you is that this function is for taking minibuffer input and converting it to a list of string arguments as required by call-process and start-process. (I added this information to the manual.) Note that the documentation does not mention "shell" anywhere. You could also gain some insight by looking at the users of this function. With those changes, I'm closing this bug report (and 1212 as well), because the issue has been already beaten to death in the above discussion. The changes I made are on the emacs-23 branch, btw, in case you want to eyeball them.
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From: Dave Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 23.2; `split-string-and-unquote' mis-documented / purpose unclear Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:28:16 -0500This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug. If you can, give a recipe starting from `emacs -Q': The info doc for split-string ends with: If you need to split a string that is a shell command, where individual arguments could be quoted, see split-string-and-unquote. Here's the info doc for split-string-and-unquote. -- Function: split-string-and-unquote string &optional separators This function splits STRING into substrings at matches for the regular expression SEPARATORS, like `split-string' does (*note Creating Strings::); in addition, it removes quoting from the substrings. It then makes a list of the substrings and returns it. If SEPARATORS is omitted or `nil', it defaults to `"\\s-+"', which is a regular expression that matches one or more characters with whitespace syntax (*note Syntax Class Table::). This function performs two types of quoting: enclosing a whole string in double quotes `"..."', and quoting individual characters with a backslash escape `\'. The latter is also used in Lisp strings, so this function can handle those as well. First problem: the last paragraph above is simply wrong. split-string-and-unquote doesn't perform any type of quoting; it un-quotes. Second problem: the doc implies that a string that could be executed by the shell could be split into its constituent arguments by split-string-and-unquote, but in general, it cannot, e.g.: (split-string-and-unquote "'foo bar'") => ("'foo" "bar'") (split-string-and-unquote "foo\\ bar") => ("foo" "bar") I'm not sure what this function is really supposed to be for, but any implication that it properly handles conversion into shell arguments is highly misleading. Some motivation should be given for proper use of split-string-and-unquote, or it should be deprecated. If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger, please include the output from the following gdb commands: `bt full' and `xbacktrace'. For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG. In GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.29) of 2010-05-08 on black.local Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1038 configured using `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns' 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc -mmacosx-version-min=10.5'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: nil default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Emacs-Lisp Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t global-auto-complete-mode: t auto-complete-mode: t yas/global-mode: t show-paren-mode: t server-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-. 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