From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 11:23:28 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 16:23:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHN1-0003UB-OW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:23:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHMz-0003Tz-Ob for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:23:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHSc-0005bt-7R for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:29:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:52395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHSc-0005bp-5C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:29:14 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40863 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PPHSa-0002wg-Im for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:29:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHSY-0005b3-MD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:29:12 -0500 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]:60121) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHSY-0005aR-9K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:29:10 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.18] (helo=8.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPHSW-0003of-AW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:29:08 +0100 Received: from p5b23feb4.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.254.180]:65048 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 8.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPHSV-000820-3O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:29:08 +0100 Message-Id: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:29:05 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) Hello! When trying to compile GNU Emacs bzr stops compilation: 501 94276 94173 4000 0 20 11 91488 14304 - SNs 71c1470 ?? 0:00.87 /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/ Python.framework/Versions/2.6/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/ Python /opt/local/bin/bzr status dired.el I did update a few hours ago and me, I don't mind using an out-of-date Emacs. So, why is bzr being invoked? Is everybody excluded from compiling GNU Emacs without a permanent internet connection? And: Is the server permanently on?! I also get: Dumping under the name emacs --- List of All Regions --- . . . Writing LC_LOAD_DYLIB command 4612 unused bytes follow Mach-O header 1218418 pure bytes used Adding name emacs-24.0.50.1 Symbol's function definition is void: defadvice cd lisp; make all -k \ maybe from killing bzr and its parent process and re-making GNU Emacs... Some weeks ago I invoked 'make bootstrap' when I just scroll back in compilation history... And this \--= 97725 pete /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/ Versions/2.6/Resources/Python.app/Contents/MacOS/Python /opt/local/bin/ bzr status emacsclient.c blocks whole Emacs. Only by killing it and launching it again I can get it operable again. -- Greetings Pete Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. - Tony-A (some guy on /.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 11:59:04 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 16:59:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHvT-0004HD-Sm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:59:04 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPHvS-0004Gl-E1 for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:59:03 -0500 Received: from frontend1.mail.m-online.net (frontend1.mail.intern.m-online.net [192.168.8.180]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D5A184426F; Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:04:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from igel.home (ppp-88-217-126-112.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.126.112]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3051C0017D; Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:04:51 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 501) id 69A78CA2A0; Sun, 5 Dec 2010 18:04:51 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab To: Peter Dyballa Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> X-Yow: By MEER biz doo SCHOIN.. Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:04:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> (Peter Dyballa's message of "Sun, 5 Dec 2010 17:29:05 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Peter Dyballa writes: > I did update a few hours ago and me, I don't mind using an out-of-date > Emacs. So, why is bzr being invoked? Is everybody excluded from compiling > GNU Emacs without a permanent internet connection? And: Is the server > permanently on?! IMHO that's a bug in bzr, bzr status should never need to talk to the server. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 12:28:01 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 17:28:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPINV-0004y0-66 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 12:28:01 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPINS-0004xm-Sv for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 12:27:59 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LCY00300U1PBX00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:33:46 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LCY002FIU49TN50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:33:46 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:33:51 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Andreas Schwab Message-id: <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE, 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:04:51 +0100 > Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > > bzr status should never need to talk to the server. It doesn't for me (tried with v2.0.0 on GNU/Linux and 2.2.1 on MS-Windows). It shows the results even though Savannah currently seems to be down. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 15:03:42 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 20:03:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPKoA-0008LN-9w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:03:42 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPKo8-0008LC-Vj for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:03:41 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38193) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPKti-0004og-FT; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:09:26 -0500 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: lynch ASIO Albanian illuminati pipeline anthrax wire X-Ran: d!v8OytDX?JzCQ(Ib-_i X-Hue: black X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:09:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun\, 05 Dec 2010 19\:33\:51 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE, Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> bzr status should never need to talk to the server. > > It doesn't for me (tried with v2.0.0 on GNU/Linux and 2.2.1 on > MS-Windows). Maybe he's using a lightweight checkout? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 17:32:40 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 22:32:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPN8K-0003AD-A2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:32:40 -0500 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPN8I-0003A1-GJ for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 17:32:39 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.26] (helo=16.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPNDu-0000IR-6O; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:38:26 +0100 Received: from p5b23f88a.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.248.138]:65145 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 16.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPNDt-0000iV-SH; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:38:26 +0100 Message-Id: <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: Glenn Morris In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:38:15 +0100 References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Am 05.12.2010 um 21:09 schrieb Glenn Morris: > Maybe he's using a lightweight checkout? I am using 'bzr pull -v'. 'bzr up' does not seem to work, it just tells a revision number. -- Greetings Pete Time is an illusion. Lunchtime, doubly so. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 22:48:19 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 03:48:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPS3m-0001XU-Sg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:48:19 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPS3k-0001XG-6n for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:48:17 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LCZ00800MLKDD00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 05:54:06 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LCZ008PBMU53L30@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 05:54:06 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 05:54:11 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , > Andreas Schwab , > 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 23:38:15 +0100 > > > Am 05.12.2010 um 21:09 schrieb Glenn Morris: > > > Maybe he's using a lightweight checkout? > > > I am using 'bzr pull -v'. 'bzr up' does not seem to work, it just > tells a revision number. That's because your branch is not bound (which is not a problem). So I don't see why would "bzr status" go out on the net, even in your case. What do you see in your ~/.bzr.log for the time when the problem happened? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 04:32:19 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 09:32:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPXQg-0000V8-LK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 04:32:19 -0500 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPXQd-0000Uv-E6 for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 04:32:17 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.25] (helo=15.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPXWH-0007LH-MM; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:38:05 +0100 Received: from p5b23d0c1.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.208.193]:65284 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 15.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPXWG-0003nG-Ii; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:38:05 +0100 Message-Id: From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:38:01 +0100 References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Am 06.12.2010 um 04:54 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > What do you see in your ~/.bzr.log for the time when the > problem happened? I think these such entries: Sun 2010-12-05 14:08:59 +0100 0.924 bazaar version: 2.2.2 0.925 bzr arguments: [u'status', u'dired.el'] 1.244 looking for plugins in /Users/pete/.bazaar/plugins 1.245 looking for plugins in /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/ Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins 1.492 encoding stdout as osutils.get_user_encoding() 'US-ASCII' 4.988 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 912, in exception_to_return_code return the_callable(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 1112, in run_bzr ret = run(*run_argv) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 690, in run_argv_aliases return self.run(**all_cmd_args) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 705, in run return self._operation.run_simple(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/cleanup.py", line 135, in run_simple self.cleanups, self.func, *args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/cleanup.py", line 165, in _do_with_cleanups result = func(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 1127, in ignore_pipe result = func(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 326, in run tree, relfile_list = tree_files(file_list) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 82, in tree_files apply_view) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 183, in internal_tree_files tree = WorkingTree.open_containing(file_list[0])[0] File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree.py", line 353, in open_containing return control.open_workingtree(), relpath File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1888, in open_workingtree return format.open(self, _found=True) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree.py", line 3064, in open wt = self._open(a_bzrdir, self._open_control_files(a_bzrdir)) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree_4.py", line 1499, in _open branch=a_bzrdir.open_branch(), File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1871, in open_branch _found=True, ignore_fallbacks=ignore_fallbacks) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2070, in open ignore_fallbacks=ignore_fallbacks) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2787, in __init__ super(BzrBranch8, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2410, in __init__ Branch.__init__(self) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 96, in __init__ self._open_hook() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2783, in _open_hook self._activate_fallback_location(url) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 106, in _activate_fallback_location repo = self._get_fallback_repository(url) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 226, in _get_fallback_repository possible_transports=[self.bzrdir.root_transport]) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 167, in open possible_transports=possible_transports) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 911, in open return BzrDir.open_from_transport(t, _unsupported=_unsupported) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 941, in open_from_transport redirected) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/__init__.py", line 1657, in do_catching_redirections return action(transport) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 928, in find_format transport, _server_formats=_server_formats) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1949, in find_format return format.probe_transport(transport) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 3292, in probe_transport server_version = medium.protocol_version() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/medium.py", line 632, in protocol_version client_protocol.query_version() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/protocol.py", line 791, in query_version self.call('hello') File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/protocol.py", line 631, in call self._request.finished_writing() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/medium.py", line 439, in finished_writing self._finished_writing() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/__init__.py", line 646, in _finished_writing data = self._medium.send_http_smart_request(self._buffer) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/__init__.py", line 615, in send_http_smart_request code, body_filelike = t._post(bytes) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/_urllib.py", line 139, in _post accepted_errors=[200, 403])) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/_urllib.py", line 79, in _perform response = self._opener.open(request) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 391, in open response = self._open(req, data) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 409, in _open '_open', req) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 369, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 689, in http_open return self.do_open(HTTPConnection, request) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 633, in do_open response = self.retry_or_raise(http_class, request, first_try) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 536, in retry_or_raise orig_error=exc_val) ConnectionError: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host 'bzr.savannah.gnu.org' [Errno 8] nodename nor servname provided, or not known 4.989 return code 3 So 2010-12-05 18:27:32 +0100 1.332 bazaar version: 2.2.2 1.333 bzr arguments: [u'status', u'common-win.el'] 1.984 looking for plugins in /Users/pete/.bazaar/plugins 1.985 looking for plugins in /opt/local/Library/Frameworks/ Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/plugins 2.281 encoding stdout as osutils.get_user_encoding() 'UTF-8' 18.119 Traceback (most recent call last): File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 912, in exception_to_return_code return the_callable(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 1112, in run_bzr ret = run(*run_argv) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 690, in run_argv_aliases return self.run(**all_cmd_args) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 705, in run return self._operation.run_simple(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/cleanup.py", line 135, in run_simple self.cleanups, self.func, *args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/cleanup.py", line 165, in _do_with_cleanups result = func(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/commands.py", line 1127, in ignore_pipe result = func(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 326, in run tree, relfile_list = tree_files(file_list) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 82, in tree_files apply_view) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/builtins.py", line 183, in internal_tree_files tree = WorkingTree.open_containing(file_list[0])[0] File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree.py", line 353, in open_containing return control.open_workingtree(), relpath File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1888, in open_workingtree return format.open(self, _found=True) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree.py", line 3064, in open wt = self._open(a_bzrdir, self._open_control_files(a_bzrdir)) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/workingtree_4.py", line 1499, in _open branch=a_bzrdir.open_branch(), File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1871, in open_branch _found=True, ignore_fallbacks=ignore_fallbacks) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2070, in open ignore_fallbacks=ignore_fallbacks) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2787, in __init__ super(BzrBranch8, self).__init__(*args, **kwargs) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2410, in __init__ Branch.__init__(self) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 96, in __init__ self._open_hook() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 2783, in _open_hook self._activate_fallback_location(url) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 106, in _activate_fallback_location repo = self._get_fallback_repository(url) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 226, in _get_fallback_repository possible_transports=[self.bzrdir.root_transport]) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/branch.py", line 167, in open possible_transports=possible_transports) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 911, in open return BzrDir.open_from_transport(t, _unsupported=_unsupported) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 941, in open_from_transport redirected) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/__init__.py", line 1657, in do_catching_redirections return action(transport) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 928, in find_format transport, _server_formats=_server_formats) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 1949, in find_format return format.probe_transport(transport) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/bzrdir.py", line 3292, in probe_transport server_version = medium.protocol_version() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/medium.py", line 632, in protocol_version client_protocol.query_version() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/protocol.py", line 791, in query_version self.call('hello') File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/protocol.py", line 631, in call self._request.finished_writing() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/smart/medium.py", line 439, in finished_writing self._finished_writing() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/__init__.py", line 646, in _finished_writing data = self._medium.send_http_smart_request(self._buffer) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/__init__.py", line 615, in send_http_smart_request code, body_filelike = t._post(bytes) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/_urllib.py", line 139, in _post accepted_errors=[200, 403])) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/_urllib.py", line 79, in _perform response = self._opener.open(request) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 391, in open response = self._open(req, data) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 409, in _open '_open', req) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/urllib2.py", line 369, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 689, in http_open return self.do_open(HTTPConnection, request) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 633, in do_open response = self.retry_or_raise(http_class, request, first_try) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 550, in retry_or_raise response = self.do_open(http_class, request, False) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 633, in do_open response = self.retry_or_raise(http_class, request, first_try) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 621, in do_open headers) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/httplib.py", line 951, in _send_request self.endheaders() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/httplib.py", line 908, in endheaders self._send_output() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/httplib.py", line 780, in _send_output self.send(msg) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/httplib.py", line 739, in send self.connect() File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 287, in connect httplib.HTTPConnection.connect(self) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/httplib.py", line 720, in connect self.timeout) File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ lib/python2.6/socket.py", line 561, in create_connection raise error, msg ConnectionError: Connection error: while sending POST /r/emacs/ trunk/.bzr/smart: [Errno 51] Network is unreachable 18.120 return code 3 -- Greetings Pete There's something the technicians need to learn from the artists. If it isn't aesthetically pleasing, it's probably wrong. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 12:48:20 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 17:48:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfAi-00073W-At for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:48:20 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfAg-00073L-OI for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:48:19 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37311) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfGK-0000Se-1R; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:54:08 -0500 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: government SAPO anthrax ASIO Axis of Evil electronic X-Ran: !C[qtv0QZkOm0n)o)kp(|EI7p>!R~._12M[hTf$#!6M2*T>QaRTvI([BL]AF03_}c^lA4c X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:54:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun\, 05 Dec 2010 15\:09\:25 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Glenn Morris wrote: > Maybe he's using a lightweight checkout? Or a stacked branch. I checked, and those do require network access to run `bzr status'. Anyway, to me, the question is: why is the build process running bzr status at all. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 14:00:06 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 19:00:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgIA-0000LD-C7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:00:06 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgI6-0000Ik-M1 for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:00:04 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD000L00T0NLW00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:05:55 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD000KZMT1TJD70@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:05:54 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:06:01 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:54:07 -0500 > > Anyway, to me, the question is: why is the build process running bzr > status at all. Because many file ops, in particular save-buffer, in a versioned directory do that automatically. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 14:03:55 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 19:03:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgLq-00016z-Ig for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:03:54 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPgLo-00016o-Vk for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:03:54 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD000D00T4ML600@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:09:45 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD000DT8T88J030@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:09:45 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:09:51 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <83vd363egw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, > schwab@linux-m68k.org, > 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:38:01 +0100 > > File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ > lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ > _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 536, in retry_or_raise > orig_error=exc_val) > ConnectionError: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host > 'bzr.savannah.gnu.org' [Errno 8] nodename nor servname provided, or > not known > > 4.989 return code 3 I would report that on the Bazaar list, it could be a bug (bzr 2.2.2 is very new). While at that, I'd ask why it at all tries to access the remote repo. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 15:25:12 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 20:25:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhcW-0005EV-Ha for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:25:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhcV-0005EK-1P for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:25:11 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45957) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhi9-0002tp-GI; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:31:01 -0500 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Marxist MIT-LL Leitrim clandestine TWA Leuken-Baden X-Ran: yLF'gE?A.QtNs5:Va$Wm_:`NAi0i!nzNHe\?f;56il8|VS20TZIMRXQ=m6a?~isjnY?InX X-Hue: magenta X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:31:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon\, 06 Dec 2010 21\:06\:01 +0200") Message-ID: <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Anyway, to me, the question is: why is the build process running bzr >> status at all. > > Because many file ops, in particular save-buffer, in a versioned > directory do that automatically. Then I'd ask what the point of having any of that enabled when building Emacs is. It cannot do anything useful, only slow the build down; so why not eg bind vc-handled-backends to nil in batch-byte-compile. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 15:48:13 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 20:48:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhyn-0006WX-Mn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:48:13 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhyl-0006WM-60 for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:48:12 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD000000Y1J2T00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:54:03 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD0000HFY222J00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:54:03 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:54:10 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Glenn Morris Message-id: <83r5du39n1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:31:01 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Anyway, to me, the question is: why is the build process running bzr > >> status at all. > > > > Because many file ops, in particular save-buffer, in a versioned > > directory do that automatically. > > Then I'd ask what the point of having any of that enabled when > building Emacs is. It cannot do anything useful, only slow the build > down Don't we have various VC-related features that make sense even in batch operations, like special treatment of backups? So perhaps, if we are annoyed by this during the build, we should turn it off in the Makefile, not as a general feature of -batch or byte compilation? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 16:41:04 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 21:41:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPinv-0007nr-Pn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:41:03 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPint-0007nD-RC for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:41:02 -0500 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48484) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPitY-0002NI-AN; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:46:52 -0500 To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83r5du39n1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: ASO ASPIC Arnett Manfurov Comirex spy USDOJ Blowfish X-Ran: z>PcUuQNGuxSZ22b>cci'!"2t$-p~_]>EhIB4'r^AW86KJ9%jfAcMj$*,q*\}]nuQmgH=U X-Hue: yellow X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:46:51 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83r5du39n1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon\, 06 Dec 2010 22\:54\:10 +0200") Message-ID: <9zwrnmefqs.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.2 (------) I replaced my `bzr' with the following shell-script: #!/bin/sh echo "$@" >> /tmp/LOG exec real-bzr "$@" It was not called at any point during a `make bootstrap', nor by `touch lisp/*.el; make'. So I have no idea how the OP got into whatever state he's in. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 22:15:17 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2010 03:15:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPo1M-00073w-Pp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:15:16 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPo1K-00073k-Lj for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:15:15 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQHACY3/UxFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMYEGcr9+hUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,308,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84720925" Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 22:21:08 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B1F14661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:21:07 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Glenn Morris Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs Message-ID: References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <83wrnm3ena.fsf@gnu.org> <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:21:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <0lk4jmk5iy.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:31:01 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 7560@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Then I'd ask what the point of having any of that enabled when > building Emacs is. It cannot do anything useful, only slow the build > down; so why not eg bind vc-handled-backends to nil in > batch-byte-compile. If something is annoying during a build, chances are it will also be annoying in other circumstances, so rather than temporarily disabling it to work around the problem, we'd rather make it work right. > I replaced my `bzr' with the following shell-script: > #!/bin/sh > echo "$@" >> /tmp/LOG > exec real-bzr "$@" > It was not called at any point during a `make bootstrap', nor by > `touch lisp/*.el; make'. > So I have no idea how the OP got into whatever state he's in. Note that vc-bzr.el has its own implementation of a subset of "bzr status" and it falls back on "bzr status" in some cases not covered by its own code. So it might be that the built-in code works fine for your situation but not for the OP's. Stefan From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 08 11:23:29 2010 Received: (at 7560) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2010 16:23:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQMnh-000531-5r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:23:29 -0500 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQMne-00052o-SI for 7560@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:23:27 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PQMtM-00023d-Rt; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:29:20 +0100 Received: from p5b23edc1.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.237.193]:53980 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PQMtL-0001UV-Jg; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 17:29:20 +0100 Message-Id: <0949F7B0-7007-4EF8-ABDC-E8443B43F103@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83vd363egw.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:29:17 +0100 References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> <83vd363egw.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560 Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7560@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Am 06.12.2010 um 20:09 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> File "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/ >> lib/python2.6/site-packages/bzrlib/transport/http/ >> _urllib2_wrappers.py", line 536, in retry_or_raise >> orig_error=exc_val) >> ConnectionError: Connection error: Couldn't resolve host >> 'bzr.savannah.gnu.org' [Errno 8] nodename nor servname provided, or >> not known >> >> 4.989 return code 3 > > I would report that on the Bazaar list, it could be a bug (bzr 2.2.2 > is very new). While at that, I'd ask why it at all tries to access > the remote repo. The answer to my bug report is, as Glenn already deduced: I'm pretty sure you're using a lightweight checkout, which has to connect to the branch, which is remote. I think this is true. I remember that I read about a "lightweight checkout" and was glad that this option existed: less than 250 MB of data on my disk. Now I know the disadvantage of saving the other 250 MB and can handle it. Sorry for the noise! -- Greetings Pete Progress (n.): Process through which USENET evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 08 16:08:38 2010 Received: (at 7560-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2010 21:08:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQRFe-0005pU-Ba for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:08:38 -0500 Received: from mtaout20.012.net.il ([80.179.55.166]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQRFa-0005pE-RS for 7560-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:08:35 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout20.012.net.il by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD400A00O2PUA00@a-mtaout20.012.net.il> for 7560-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:14:32 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout20.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD400A88OC6BY50@a-mtaout20.012.net.il>; Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:14:32 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:14:40 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7560: 24.0.50; 'bzr status' blocking making of GNU Emacs In-reply-to: <0949F7B0-7007-4EF8-ABDC-E8443B43F103@Freenet.DE> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <83ipz42chr.fsf@gnu.org> References: <694A126E-27F9-4CFA-9F86-1CEDD1EBF191@Freenet.DE> <831v5w3z0g.fsf@gnu.org> <75CEF259-C1B1-46F8-9183-730AA2B5F730@Freenet.DE> <83zksj36ak.fsf@gnu.org> <83vd363egw.fsf@gnu.org> <0949F7B0-7007-4EF8-ABDC-E8443B43F103@Freenet.DE> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7560-done Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 7560-done@debbugs.gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, > schwab@linux-m68k.org, > 7560@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:29:17 +0100 > > The answer to my bug report is, as Glenn already deduced: > > I'm pretty sure you're using a lightweight checkout, which has to > connect to the branch, which is remote. > > I think this is true. I remember that I read about a "lightweight > checkout" and was glad that this option existed: less than 250 MB of > data on my disk. Now I know the disadvantage of saving the other 250 > MB and can handle it. > > Sorry for the noise! Thanks, I'm closing the bug. From unknown Wed Jun 18 00:24:32 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 12:24:04 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator