From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 04 16:53:52 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2010 21:53:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PP03E-0006PG-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:53:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PP03C-0006Ox-GZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:53:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PP08n-0008Ge-DK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:59:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:33991) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PP08n-0008GY-Ai for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:59:37 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39633 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PP08m-0005EX-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:59:37 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PP08k-0008G9-FS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:59:36 -0500 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]:47496) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PP08k-0008G1-8E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:59:34 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PP08i-0002fh-8K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:59:32 +0100 Received: from p5b23f682.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.246.130]:64492 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PP08h-0006CH-RR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:59:32 +0100 Message-Id: From: Peter Dyballa To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 22:59:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hello! I have an EPS file created by Adobe Illustrator 15 with a "DOS EPS Binary File Header" according to 5002.EPSF_Spec and a TIFF preview at the end, in mac-roman-mac encoding. Size: 643 KB. When I visit that file from a dired buffer in PostScript DocView View mode and scroll down near the end of the PostScript section where the TIFF preview starts, it happens that GNU Emacs becomes inoperable for seven hours while consuming all remaining CPU power. The first line of the TIFF section, starting with II*, is approximately 314,899 characters long (GNU Emacs is a bad tool, it counts ASCII NUL ^@ as two columns). Rendering this in a window of 55 lines and around 120 columns takes these 7 h. And more: GNU Emacs creates a #file.eps# backup file, larger in size (50 %) than the original file. Is that the expected behaviour? In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin9.8.0, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2010-11-13 on localhost Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10902901 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-dbus' '-- without-pop' '--without-gconf' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' '--x- libraries=/usr/X11/lib' '--x-includes=/usr/X11/include' '--with- imagemagick' '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/Application Support/ Emacs/calendar24:/Library/Application Support/Emacs' 'CFLAGS=-g -H - pipe -fPIC -fno-common -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -faltivec -fast' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -idirafter /sw/include' 'LDFLAGS=-L/usr/ local/lib -Wl,-dead_strip_dylibs' 'CC=gcc-4.2' 'CPP=cpp-4.2' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/sw/lib/pango-ft219/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/xft2/lib/ pkgconfig:/sw/lib/fontconfig2/lib/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/freetype219/lib/ pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/share/pkgconfig:/sw/lib/ pkgconfig:/sw/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/X11/lib/ pkgconfig:/usr/X11/share/pkgconfig'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Calendar Minor modes in effect: TeX-PDF-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t delete-selection-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete Without vi there is only GNU Emacs From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 04 23:01:57 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 04:01:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PP5nR-0003Jk-8d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:01:57 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PP5nO-0003JY-VQ for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:01:56 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LCX00000SOCJ100@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 06:06:38 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LCX00M1HSR1VQI0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 06:06:38 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 06:06:42 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> References: X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 22:59:29 +0100 > Cc: > > I have an EPS file created by Adobe Illustrator 15 with a "DOS EPS > Binary File Header" according to 5002.EPSF_Spec and a TIFF preview at > the end, in mac-roman-mac encoding. Size: 643 KB. When I visit that > file from a dired buffer in PostScript DocView View mode Visiting binary files with anything but find-file-literally is not a good idea. > Rendering this in a window of 55 lines and around 120 columns takes > these 7 h. Emacs display engine is known to be very slow with very long lines. Does it help to set truncate-lines non-nil? > And more: GNU Emacs creates a #file.eps# backup file, > larger in size (50 %) than the original file. Is that the expected > behaviour? I'm guessing that this is because raw bytes are decoded into internal format that makes them take 5 bytes. The auto-save file is written in this internal format. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 07:00:45 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 12:00:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPDGm-0005DI-LO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 07:00:45 -0500 Received: from mout2.freenet.de ([195.4.92.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPDGj-0005D4-AZ for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 07:00:42 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPDKQ-00077B-Ai; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:04:30 +0100 Received: from p5b23c6da.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.198.218]:64869 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPDKP-0004hW-5H; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:04:30 +0100 Message-Id: <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:04:26 +0100 References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Am 05.12.2010 um 05:06 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> I have an EPS file created by Adobe Illustrator 15 with a "DOS EPS >> Binary File Header" according to 5002.EPSF_Spec and a TIFF preview at >> the end, in mac-roman-mac encoding. Size: 643 KB. When I visit that >> file from a dired buffer in PostScript DocView View mode > > Visiting binary files with anything but find-file-literally is not a > good idea. Yes, find-file-literally works very fine, and fast! Although it =20 produces a backup file and does not open the file read-only... > >> Rendering this in a window of 55 lines and around 120 columns takes >> these 7 h. > > Emacs display engine is known to be very slow with very long lines. > Does it help to set truncate-lines non-nil? I did not wait the whole seven hours, just a few minutes, until the =20 CPU became hot enough that the fan started to spin... Not really a =20 change or improvement in speed, probably. > >> And more: GNU Emacs creates a #file.eps# backup file, >> larger in size (50 %) than the original file. Is that the expected >> behaviour? > > I'm guessing that this is because raw bytes are decoded into internal > format that makes them take 5 bytes. The auto-save file is written in > this internal format. The backup file was created while I opened the file read-only, just =20 visiting it! -- Greetings Pete The future will be much better tomorrow. =96 George W. Bush From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 05 09:31:41 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Dec 2010 14:31:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPFcr-0000uw-26 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:31:41 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPFco-0000ug-84 for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 09:31:39 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LCY00800LTYC100@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:37:26 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LCY005H6LYBEVL0@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:37:24 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:37:29 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line In-reply-to: <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) > Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2010 13:04:26 +0100 > > >> And more: GNU Emacs creates a #file.eps# backup file, > >> larger in size (50 %) than the original file. Is that the expected > >> behaviour? > > > > I'm guessing that this is because raw bytes are decoded into internal > > format that makes them take 5 bytes. The auto-save file is written in > > this internal format. > > > The backup file was created while I opened the file read-only, just > visiting it! That's strange. I thought auto-save only kicks in if a file was modified in some way. Do you see the "modified" indication on the mode line? Do you see "Autosaving" in *Messages*? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 04:39:02 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 09:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPXXB-0000eH-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 04:39:01 -0500 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPXX9-0000e0-F0 for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 04:39:00 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.16] (helo=6.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPXco-0003vX-Oy; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:44:50 +0100 Received: from p5b23d0c1.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.208.193]:65291 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 6.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPXco-0001CW-Ik; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:44:50 +0100 Message-Id: From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:44:48 +0100 References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Am 05.12.2010 um 15:37 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >> The backup file was created while I opened the file read-only, just >> visiting it! > > That's strange. I thought auto-save only kicks in if a file was > modified in some way. Do you see the "modified" indication on the > mode line? Do you see "Autosaving" in *Messages*? I tried to reproduce the issue this night =96 but failed! One reason =20 might be that I had to use an elder installed version of GNU Emacs =20 24.0.50 because the "recent" one was deleted for a new compilation. =20 Sorry that I did not think of this before! -- Greetings Pete If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure. =96 George W. Bush From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 13:47:09 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 18:47:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPg5d-0008Rj-Ih for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:47:09 -0500 Received: from mtaout21.012.net.il ([80.179.55.169]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPg5b-0008RF-2v for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:47:08 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout21.012.net.il by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD000D00SBKK400@a-mtaout21.012.net.il> for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:52:58 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout21.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD000D9JSG95860@a-mtaout21.012.net.il>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:52:58 +0200 (IST) Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:53:05 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line In-reply-to: To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:44:48 +0100 >=20 >=20 > Am 05.12.2010 um 15:37 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: >=20 > >> The backup file was created while I opened the file read-only, j= ust > >> visiting it! > > > > That's strange. I thought auto-save only kicks in if a file was > > modified in some way. Do you see the "modified" indication on th= e > > mode line? Do you see "Autosaving" in *Messages*? >=20 >=20 > I tried to reproduce the issue this night =96 but failed! One reaso= n =20 > might be that I had to use an elder installed version of GNU Emacs = =20 > 24.0.50 because the "recent" one was deleted for a new compilation.= =20 > Sorry that I did not think of this before! So do we still have a problem to look into, or can this bug be closed= ? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 06 15:59:54 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 20:59:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPiA6-0006nO-1k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:59:54 -0500 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPiA3-0006nB-7L for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:59:52 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPiFk-0007lQ-1K; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:05:44 +0100 Received: from p5b23fadc.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.250.220]:52854 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPiFj-0006dZ-S0; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:05:44 +0100 Message-Id: <9F186F05-120F-4664-804A-087711785ADD@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:05:41 +0100 References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) Am 06.12.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > So do we still have a problem to look into, or can this bug be closed? Let's wait until tomorrow! Today it seems GNU Emacs 24.0.50 can be =20 compiled, so I'll have a "test platform". I'll even have two: There is =20= also one NS variant, five weeks old. I could launch both in parallel =20 and see which one is creating a backup file. -- Greetings Pete Almost anything is easier to get into than out of. =96 Allen's Law From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 07 04:37:56 2010 Received: (at 7556) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2010 09:37:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPtzf-0006uQ-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:37:56 -0500 Received: from mout8.freenet.de ([195.4.92.98]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPtzT-0006u1-7n for 7556@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 04:37:54 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.13] (helo=3.mx.freenet.de) by mout8.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPu5A-00041n-RJ; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:43:37 +0100 Received: from p5b23ef40.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.239.64]:53081 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 3.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 587) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1PPu59-0006vG-Km; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 10:43:36 +0100 Message-Id: <765CAE6F-3A4D-4095-BD2E-5A56AE19E697@Freenet.DE> From: Peter Dyballa To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:43:33 +0100 References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556 Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) Am 06.12.2010 um 19:53 schrieb Eli Zaretskii: > So do we still have a problem to look into, or can this bug be closed? I think it can be closed! The elder NS variant is faster than the X client and did not produce a =20= backup file. I did not wait until the up-to-date X client finished =20 scrolling or creating the backup file but killed it with xkill. *This* =20= produced the backup file. The date of this file and that of my action =20= is the same, to the minute. Previously I killed GNU Emacs when it =20 became inoperable and not knowing the cause of this behaviour. After =20 this I visited the directory in dired mode and saw the backup files =20 and concluded they might have been created when GNU Emacs started to =20 consume all CPU power=96now in some irregular working mode=96while in = fact =20 this was perhaps a minute later when I killed it. In the *Messages* buffers nothing was written. -- Greetings Pete =46rom error to error, one discovers the entire truth. - Sigmund Freud From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Dec 07 13:38:41 2010 Received: (at 7556-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2010 18:38:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQ2Qy-0005fK-Fp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:38:40 -0500 Received: from mtaout22.012.net.il ([80.179.55.172]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PQ2Qv-0005f6-Nq for 7556-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 13:38:39 -0500 Received: from conversion-daemon.a-mtaout22.012.net.il by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0LD200H00MNRGV00@a-mtaout22.012.net.il> for 7556-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:44:31 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.69.203]) by a-mtaout22.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0LD200H5YMQ6G520@a-mtaout22.012.net.il>; Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:44:31 +0200 (IST) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:44:39 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#7556: 24.0.50; visiting an EPS file with preview TIFF image and with one long line In-reply-to: <765CAE6F-3A4D-4095-BD2E-5A56AE19E697@Freenet.DE> To: Peter Dyballa Message-id: <83lj412zjc.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il References: <831v5whnhp.fsf@gnu.org> <80B27561-97A6-4D18-B322-F715849D2DB5@Freenet.DE> <8339qc476e.fsf@gnu.org> <83y6823f8u.fsf@gnu.org> <765CAE6F-3A4D-4095-BD2E-5A56AE19E697@Freenet.DE> X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7556-done Cc: 7556-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) > Cc: 7556@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Peter Dyballa > Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 10:43:33 +0100 >=20 > The elder NS variant is faster than the X client and did not produc= e a =20 > backup file. I did not wait until the up-to-date X client finished = =20 > scrolling or creating the backup file but killed it with xkill. *Th= is* =20 > produced the backup file. The date of this file and that of my acti= on =20 > is the same, to the minute. Previously I killed GNU Emacs when it = =20 > became inoperable and not knowing the cause of this behaviour. Afte= r =20 > this I visited the directory in dired mode and saw the backup files= =20 > and concluded they might have been created when GNU Emacs started t= o =20 > consume all CPU power=96now in some irregular working mode=96while = in fact =20 > this was perhaps a minute later when I killed it. Yes, when Emacs catches a fatal signal, it auto-saves. This is norma= l behavior. Closing. Thanks for looking into this. From unknown Sat Jun 14 19:33:17 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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