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#75553
31.0.50; custom-load-symbol should respect message verbosity
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Reported by: Johann Höchtl <johann.hoechtl <at> gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 07:15:01 UTC
Severity: normal
Found in version 31.0.50
Done: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
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I find the load messages during startup, caused by (custom-load-symbol
'foo) disturbing.
That is caused by the fact that the API of custom-load-symbaol has no means
to respect the setting of force-load-messages when loading a library.
Please do note, that this analysis has been made by and is described in
more detail in
https://emacs.stackexchange.com/questions/82904/disable-echo-area-during-startup/82924#82924
In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2025-01-02 built
on fv-az1495-740
Repository revision: 299a1fbef886dba654f58a0c55b373f8b43d383b
Repository branch: HEAD
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.19045
System Description: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise (v10.0.2009.19045.5247)
Configured using:
'configure
--prefix=/d/a/emacs-build/emacs-build/pkg/299a1fb-ucrt-x86_64
'CFLAGS=-O2 -fno-semantic-interposition -floop-parallelize-all
-ftree-parallelize-loops=4 -g3 ' --disable-build-details --without-dbus
--enable-link-time-optimization --enable-build-details
--with-compress-install --with-small-ja-dic --with-gif --with-gnutls
--with-harfbuzz --with-jpeg --with-json --with-lcms2 --with-mps
--with-native-compilation --with-png --with-rsvg --with-tree-sitter
--with-xml2 --with-xpm --with-zlib --without-cairo --without-tiff'
Configured features:
ACL GIF GMP GNUTLS HARFBUZZ JPEG LCMS2 LIBXML2 MODULES MPS NATIVE_COMP
NOTIFY W32NOTIFY PDUMPER PNG RSVG SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS
TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP XPM ZLIB
Important settings:
value of $LC_ALL: en_US.UTF-8
value of $LANG: C.UTF-8
locale-coding-system: cp1252
Major mode: Markdown
Minor modes in effect:
corfu-terminal-mode: t
visual-wrap-prefix-mode: t
word-wrap-whitespace-mode: t
flyspell-mode: t
winner-mode: t
windmove-mode: t
savehist-mode: t
save-place-mode: t
recentf-mode: t
pixel-scroll-precision-mode: t
marginalia-mode: t
global-auto-revert-mode: t
icomplete-mode: t
fido-mode: t
desktop-save-mode: t
delete-selection-mode: t
bar-cursor-mode: t
corfu-mode: t
override-global-mode: t
tooltip-mode: t
global-eldoc-mode: t
eldoc-mode: t
show-paren-mode: t
electric-indent-mode: t
mouse-wheel-mode: t
tool-bar-mode: t
tab-bar-mode: t
menu-bar-mode: t
file-name-shadow-mode: t
global-font-lock-mode: t
font-lock-mode: t
blink-cursor-mode: t
minibuffer-regexp-mode: t
column-number-mode: t
line-number-mode: t
visual-line-mode: t
transient-mark-mode: t
auto-composition-mode: t
auto-encryption-mode: t
auto-compression-mode: t
Load-path shadows:
c:/Users/HoechtlJ/.config/emacs/elpa/transient-20250108.1351/transient
hides
c:/Users/HoechtlJ/AppData/Local/Emacs/share/emacs/31.0.50/lisp/transient
Features:
(shadow sort mail-extr compile comint ansi-osc ansi-color comp-run
comp-common emacsbug message puny dired dired-loaddefs rfc822 mml
mml-sec epa derived epg rfc6068 epg-config gnus-util
text-property-search mm-decode mm-bodies mm-encode mail-parse rfc2231
mailabbrev gmm-utils mailheader sendmail rfc2047 rfc2045 ietf-drums
mm-util mail-prsvr mail-utils display-line-numbers
display-fill-column-indicator yasnippet hideshow vc-git diff-mode
track-changes files-x vc-dispatcher time-date corfu-terminal popon
visual-wrap word-wrap-mode flyspell ispell yank-media markdown-mode
edit-indirect rx color thingatpt noutline outline deeper-blue-theme
winner windmove savehist saveplace recentf tree-widget wid-edit
pixel-scroll cua-base ring marginalia autorevert filenotify icomplete
desktop frameset delsel bar-cursor cus-load corfu edmacro kmacro
use-package-bind-key bind-key easy-mmode orderless compat cl-extra
help-mode use-package-ensure use-package-core finder-inf
bar-cursor-autoloads breadcrumb-autoloads cape-autoloads
corfu-terminal-autoloads corfu-autoloads csv-mode-autoloads
d2-mode-autoloads dape-autoloads dired-sidebar-autoloads
dired-subtree-autoloads dired-hacks-utils-autoloads
edit-indirect-autoloads go-mode-autoloads hideshowvis-autoloads
impatient-showdown-autoloads impatient-mode-autoloads htmlize-autoloads
indent-bars-autoloads magit-autoloads pcase magit-section-autoloads
marginalia-autoloads markdown-mode-autoloads mini-modeline-autoloads
dash-autoloads olivetti-autoloads orderless-autoloads popon-autoloads
simple-httpd-autoloads transient-autoloads vundo-autoloads info
with-editor-autoloads yasnippet-autoloads package browse-url xdg url
url-proxy url-privacy url-expand url-methods url-history url-cookie
generate-lisp-file url-domsuf url-util mailcap url-handlers url-parse
auth-source cl-seq eieio eieio-core cl-macs icons password-cache json
subr-x map byte-opt gv bytecomp byte-compile url-vars cl-loaddefs cl-lib
rmc iso-transl tooltip cconv eldoc paren electric uniquify ediff-hook
vc-hooks lisp-float-type elisp-mode mwheel touch-screen dos-w32 ls-lisp
disp-table term/w32-win w32-win w32-vars term/common-win tool-bar dnd
fontset image regexp-opt fringe tabulated-list replace newcomment
text-mode lisp-mode prog-mode register page tab-bar menu-bar rfn-eshadow
isearch easymenu timer select scroll-bar mouse jit-lock font-lock syntax
font-core term/tty-colors frame minibuffer nadvice seq simple cl-generic
indonesian philippine cham georgian utf-8-lang misc-lang vietnamese
tibetan thai tai-viet lao korean japanese eucjp-ms cp51932 hebrew greek
romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese
composite emoji-zwj charscript charprop case-table epa-hook
jka-cmpr-hook help abbrev obarray oclosure cl-preloaded button loaddefs
theme-loaddefs faces cus-face macroexp files window text-properties
overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages mule custom widget keymap
hashtable-print-readable backquote threads w32notify w32 lcms2 multi-tty
move-toolbar make-network-process tty-child-frames native-compile mps
emacs)
Memory information:
((conses 24 0 0) (symbols 56 0 0) (strings 40 0 0) (string-bytes 1 0)
(vectors 24 0) (vector-slots 8 0 0) (floats 24 0 0)
(intervals 64 0 0) (buffers 1000 0))
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> From: Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel <at> yandex.ru>
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 75553 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2025 19:45:40 +0300
>
> On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 17:12 +0100, Johann Höchtl wrote:
> > It doesn't print Loading when I use-package but when demanded through
> > customize. That is not orthogonal.
>
> Right, but unless I'm missing something your comment doesn't contradict
> to what I said. These are still messages that only appear during
> startup.
>
> > Konstantin Kharlamov <Hi-Angel <at> yandex.ru> schrieb am Di., 14. Jän.
> > 2025, 17:10:
> > > On Tue, 2025-01-14 at 16:26 +0100, Johann Höchtl wrote:
> > > > It's not important in the sense as it does not impair daily work.
> > > > It
> > > > is more the appearance of a tool spilling debug information which
> > > > gives a somewhat unprofessional look. That's about it.
> > >
> > > Well, typically the "Loading" messages may only appear during Emacs
> > > start-up (do they not for you?). It seems rational to me that when
> > > an
> > > application starting up it may print its current loading status.
No further comments, so I'm now closing this bug.
This bug report was last modified 166 days ago.
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