GNU bug report logs - #7555
24.0.50; (elisp) bad organization - Frames submenus

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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.0.50; (elisp) bad organization - Frames submenus
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 10:24:47 -0800

All kinds of stuff has been stuffed under the `Frames' node - stuff that
has nothing particular to do with frames.  This stuff should be placed
elsewhere.
 
Examples:
 
Mouse Tracking - maybe put it with other mouse stuff
Mouse Position -    "                          "
Pop-Up Menus   - put it with other menu stuff
                 It has nothing to do with frames, apart from the fact
                 that the implementation might involve frames.
Dialog Boxes   - maybe put it with menu or `interactive' stuff
                 Again, it has nothing to do with frames apart from
                 implementation.
Pointer Shape  - put it with other mouse stuff
Window System Selections - put it with selection/region stuff
Drag and Drop  - put it with copy/paste stuff
Color Names    - again, has nothing to do with frames
Text Terminal Colors - ditto
Resources      - resources can be anything, not just frame parameters
Display Feature Testing - similar to resources - this is about
                 display/system properties, not about Emacs frames
 
This is a terrible mess.  It confuses users wrt what Emacs frames are
all about.  You might just as well stuff all this stuff in the section
about Emacs faces or the region - that makes about as much sense (none).
 
In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags
-Ic:/imagesupport/include'
 

Message #10 received at 7555 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 7555 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7555: 24.0.50; (elisp) bad organization - Frames submenus
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:47:06 +0200

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> All kinds of stuff has been stuffed under the `Frames' node - stuff that
> has nothing particular to do with frames.  This stuff should be placed
> elsewhere.
>
> Examples:
>
> Mouse Tracking - maybe put it with other mouse stuff
> Mouse Position -    "                          "
> Pop-Up Menus   - put it with other menu stuff
>                  It has nothing to do with frames, apart from the fact
>                  that the implementation might involve frames.
> Dialog Boxes   - maybe put it with menu or `interactive' stuff
>                  Again, it has nothing to do with frames apart from
>                  implementation.
> Pointer Shape  - put it with other mouse stuff
> Window System Selections - put it with selection/region stuff
> Drag and Drop  - put it with copy/paste stuff

I agree with all these...

> Color Names    - again, has nothing to do with frames
> Text Terminal Colors - ditto
> Resources      - resources can be anything, not just frame parameters
> Display Feature Testing - similar to resources - this is about
>                  display/system properties, not about Emacs frames

All these should perhaps go in a new node, "misc. display features" or
something?

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(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
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