From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:41:56 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#7553 <7553@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#7553 <7553@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.0.50; please disable focus-follows-mouse per default and document mouse movements associated with this variable Reply-To: bug#7553 <7553@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 15:41:56 +0000 retitle 7553 24.0.50; please disable focus-follows-mouse per default and do= cument mouse movements associated with this variable reassign 7553 emacs submitter 7553 Gregor Zattler severity 7553 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 04 11:30:05 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2010 16:30:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POuzs-0005I1-L5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:30:04 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POuzq-0005HH-9x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:30:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POv5Q-0007Pc-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:35:49 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:40955) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POv5Q-0007PX-FW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:35:48 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60578 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1POv5P-0008Ob-Df for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:35:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POv5N-0007Oz-MJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:35:47 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:42886 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POv5N-0007OU-5d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:35:45 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Dec 2010 16:35:42 -0000 Received: from p54946C69.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.148.108.105] by mail.gmx.net (mp018) with SMTP; 04 Dec 2010 17:35:42 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18omuw81d0oomrFbI2vKGq0QJro4dko5gSn2yBfXt 45ktGVpDCe7uM2 Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1POv5J-0000BI-8Y; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:35:41 +0100 From: Gregor Zattler To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.0.50; please disable focus-follows-mouse per default and document mouse movements associated with this variable X-Debbugs-Cc: rfrancoise@debian.org Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:35:41 +0100 Message-ID: <8739qdv6le.fsf@shi.workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) severity wishlist stop Please change the default value of the variable focus-follows-mouse to nil and mention the fact that setting the variable leads to mouse movements which are not user controlled in the documentation of this variable. The current setting leads to surprising and irritating behaviour because of erratic (from a users perspective) mouse movements as discussed in bug reports 7269 (http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7269) and 1980 (http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=1980). It is especially annoying when working on a terminal (where one usually does not use the mouse) and leaving an emacsclient session suddenly moves mouse and focus to another graphical Emacs frame. How to reproduce: Start X with only exec xterm in your ~/.xsession. Start X via startx. This will start X without window manager in order to reproduce the bug without interference of a window manager. Move the mouse over the xterm in the upper left hand corner. Start an Emacs server with a graphical frame in the bottom right hand corner: emacs --eval '(server-start)' -g 40x20-0-0 & Edit some file in a terminal session: emacsclient /tmp/somefile Leave the editing session via server-edit C-x #. Now the mouse jumps to the upper right hand corner of the graphical Emacs frame. Focus will follow this mouse movement. In order to work in the terminal again one will have to move the mouse back. This is especially annoying when the terminal window and the graphical Emacs frame are on different screens. Thanks for your attention, Gregor From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 04 11:39:13 2010 Received: (at request) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Dec 2010 16:39:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POv8i-0005UO-Vd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:39:13 -0500 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POv8g-0005U9-Q6 for request@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 11:39:11 -0500 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Dec 2010 16:44:56 -0000 Received: from p54946C69.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.148.108.105] by mail.gmx.net (mp023) with SMTP; 04 Dec 2010 17:44:56 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19DIkwvhz1Dsiz2sRZavkjCH3txhHN/B4RPXj9yqk GgQlrd5XAAUWmd Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1POvEB-0000Fm-2T; Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:44:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:44:31 +0100 From: Gregor Zattler To: request@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: severity 7553 wishlist Message-ID: <20101204164430.GA21583@shi.workgroup> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: -3.2 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: request X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) severity 7553 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 20 06:10:28 2010 Received: (at 7553) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2010 11:10:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUddM-000816-93 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:10:28 -0500 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.146]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUddL-00080t-Cs for 7553@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:10:27 -0500 Received: from furball (bb116-14-228-227.singnet.com.sg [116.14.228.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-05.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oBKBGq4s007895 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:16:55 -0500 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4710916246F; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:16:53 +0800 (SGT) From: Chong Yidong To: Gregor Zattler Subject: Re: bug#7553: 24.0.50; please disable focus-follows-mouse per default and document mouse movements associated with this variable References: <8739qdv6le.fsf@shi.workgroup> Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:16:53 +0800 In-Reply-To: <8739qdv6le.fsf@shi.workgroup> (Gregor Zattler's message of "Sat, 04 Dec 2010 17:35:41 +0100") Message-ID: <87k4j44rtm.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.146 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7553 Cc: 7553@debbugs.gnu.org, rfrancoise@debian.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Gregor Zattler writes: > Please change the default value of the variable focus-follows-mouse to > nil and mention the fact that setting the variable leads to mouse > movements which are not user controlled in the documentation of this > variable. I've changed it to nil in the trunk. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Dec 20 06:10:42 2010 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2010 11:10:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUdda-00081X-Jy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:10:42 -0500 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-04.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.145]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PUddZ-00081K-Ba for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:10:41 -0500 Received: from furball (bb116-14-228-227.singnet.com.sg [116.14.228.227]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-04.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oBKBH75L022176 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 06:17:10 -0500 Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB93816246F; Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:17:07 +0800 (SGT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 7553 Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 19:17:07 +0800 Message-ID: <87oc8ghex8.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.145 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) close 7553 thanks From unknown Fri Sep 05 08:41:56 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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