From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Dec 03 13:52:44 2010 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Dec 2010 18:52:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POakN-0007m9-SO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:52:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1POakA-0007lJ-1O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:52:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POapd-00007X-Fn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:58:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:56641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POapd-00007T-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:58:09 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=47352 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1POa6X-0006CG-3r for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:11:34 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POa6V-00059G-FK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:11:32 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:23919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1POa6V-000594-8R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:11:31 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB3IBS69021692 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:11:29 GMT Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB3CXMOC015634 for ; Fri, 3 Dec 2010 18:11:27 GMT Received: from abhmt021.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 842339641291399811; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:10:11 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.244.34) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:10:11 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 24.0.50; (elisp) `Simple Types' Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:10:08 -0800 Message-ID: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuTFVGQUuDJ+c5lS3msdo2DoLGezA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Why are types `alist' and `plist' considered simple types? Seems like they are like `cons', `repeat', and `list', not like `string' and `symbol'. They are structures with component types. Don't they belong in node `Composite Types'? In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 09:54:55 2011 Received: (at 7545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2011 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0et-0006bh-JF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:54:55 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0eq-0006az-NV for 7545@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:54:53 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.51.58.getinternet.no ([84.215.51.58] helo=quimbies.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0ef-0005iq-Jr; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:54:41 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: "Drew Adams" Subject: Re: bug#7545: 24.0.50; (elisp) `Simple Types' In-Reply-To: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 3 Dec 2010 10:10:08 -0800") Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:50:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAGFBMVEXCipbe8NLa4cri9Nfm 99qra3/Ru7SuXXrCyuUSAAACa0lEQVQ4jVXTQY+iQBAF4GKRcAUZPA8Kw1WE9axAPAsb4LoOGq6E BObv76vqdtY5kU7683VXP8k2NnMQTS6+o+fXiX3j9eLS6A6V2wXO6MZV0u2OYxpV6y7YEIDrT4lt HGbPn9LBPDRYuxYFAzYCeHFV2OFlzCKsb86VNti4AKxnz6nLwcybNwfAIAa3jSTY98tYRoC9c/UI Gxd3ELCkwwpgv6QPY021awvAQe9HBe7HqxtToMHuCU5L+TAPMz2Ba/dHPlKJpGsa1/S+JAPuEDAw JQEgnwNSR5o0qAVkfpWQJHwBMGxCSTgDEoCngRfVhQJ1wSMxDl87p/UGMxEQAYT7lj5Uwk2GDpBf S38qrJ4YqLsA7Blglqe2IE5INCgZZPuptO45VYdOEoxnAg+/zTCSaEosgDedwODR5yNtO5kSwI4T /ggoY4Mk4cgJqd3njYBVPnr0hY3JT3AFOBOe8XYYXS6OzFAAXo3w7mnMQIojAMPfYCS2ycWp9dAn Gbr7aOl9TNEDBpk8K0AM0JNqmgYnSWg+/7Ypj6Q6Wy+gjNoPq7/QLy5OK9VUPQB4x5oCJFgvPQDY AWAkM26mAPdgJa9UDCYNuFmv7yDPqkBJeCWVECrQfe7bbDBlJKo4qST4007WPknTUBwkZShOh2fF D5wb2uqmofycwD1gwBX1+NKS8AJCqag0jTf+Rg/wrAAlfRcHGwsGZWwWVnihT900Bqo4+OLPSFvp MhIGU/fALAG4oq9NezzBHf9atwkv303TCRjJHAAMPYCjwQnr1ZnqdafAWRVHA5+20VQM9/9Ne1Og 4YoeX5uGAzOo/gHSowqYV1z4nAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Now-Playing: Boris's _Variations_: "Rainbow" X-Hashcash: 1:23:110702:7545@debbugs.gnu.org::86gJBBJ6AMmNcsCV:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000Am5l X-Hashcash: 1:23:110702:drew.adams@oracle.com::xE47KFZhFJGdLc3j:00000000000000000000000000000000000000019+PZ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-MailScanner-ID: 1Qd0ef-0005iq-Jr X-Netfonds-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Netfonds-MailScanner-From: larsi@gnus.org MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1310219681.74723@zbtkxEHr1jq0i9iSXsre9A X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7545 Cc: 7545@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.9 (--) "Drew Adams" writes: > Why are types `alist' and `plist' considered simple types? Seems like > they are like `cons', `repeat', and `list', not like `string' and > `symbol'. They are structures with component types. Don't they belong > in node `Composite Types'? That seems logical. But this report was marked as "notabug", but doesn't show how it got that mark. Anybody know what that means? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/ From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 09:58:36 2011 Received: (at 7545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2011 13:58:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0iS-0006nS-Hg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:58:36 -0400 Received: from ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net ([80.76.153.6]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0iQ-0006nA-Du for 7545@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 09:58:35 -0400 Received: from c80-216-105-155.bredband.comhem.se ([80.216.105.155]:62605 helo=[192.168.0.10]) by ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd0hn-0003Mz-GV; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:57:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4E0F23D2.1010205@dogan.se> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:57:38 +0200 From: Deniz Dogan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#7545: 24.0.50; (elisp) `Simple Types' References: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: 80.216.105.155 X-Scan-Result: No virus found in message 1Qd0hn-0003Mz-GV. X-Scan-Signature: ch-smtp05.sth.basefarm.net 1Qd0hn-0003Mz-GV ce821552a9b5e4267f06f99b53a3e146 X-Spam-Score: -4.6 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7545 Cc: Drew Adams , 7545@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) On 2011-07-02 15:50, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > "Drew Adams" writes: > >> Why are types `alist' and `plist' considered simple types? Seems like >> they are like `cons', `repeat', and `list', not like `string' and >> `symbol'. They are structures with component types. Don't they belong >> in node `Composite Types'? > > That seems logical. But this report was marked as "notabug", but > doesn't show how it got that mark. Anybody know what that means? > It could mean that someone (I don't remember who has access) changed it straight in the database. This has happened to one of my bug reports before. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 11:27:04 2011 Received: (at 7545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jul 2011 15:27:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd264-0005k0-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:27:04 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qd262-0005jX-KP for 7545@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 11:27:03 -0400 Received: from rtcsinet21.oracle.com (rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id p62FQrFU015224 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:26:55 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by rtcsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p62FQqt2002299 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:26:53 GMT Received: from abhmt107.oracle.com (abhmt107.oracle.com [141.146.116.59]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id p62FQkcv016882; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 10:26:46 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.63.244) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 08:26:46 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Deniz Dogan'" , "'Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen'" References: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> <4E0F23D2.1010205@dogan.se> Subject: RE: bug#7545: 24.0.50; (elisp) `Simple Types' Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 08:26:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4E0F23D2.1010205@dogan.se> Thread-Index: Acw4wCRAfeA2gI4vRnWB04p1QTd7sAAC/5bw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6109 X-Source-IP: rtcsinet21.oracle.com [66.248.204.29] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.4E0F38C0.0015:SCFSTAT5015188, ss=1, re=-4.000, fgs=0 X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7545 Cc: 7545@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -4.5 (----) > > That seems logical. But this report was marked as "notabug", but > > doesn't show how it got that mark. Anybody know what that means? > > It could mean that someone (I don't remember who has access) > changed it > straight in the database. This has happened to one of my bug reports > before. FWIW - I (the bug filer) received no mail about this bug's status. Nothing saying that it was classified as "notabug", or anything else for that matter. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 20:47:34 2011 Received: (at 7545) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 00:47:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdAqU-0005X3-Gr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:34 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdAqT-0005Wr-AR for 7545@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:33 -0400 Received: from furball (dhcp128036014003.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p630lR3W005086 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Sat, 2 Jul 2011 20:47:27 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#7545: 24.0.50; (elisp) `Simple Types' References: <4EF744340E21483ABFE942FA8F1F2C12@us.oracle.com> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:08 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:50:47 +0200") Message-ID: <87iprkchrn.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7545 Cc: Drew Adams , 7545@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > "Drew Adams" writes: > >> Why are types `alist' and `plist' considered simple types? Seems like >> they are like `cons', `repeat', and `list', not like `string' and >> `symbol'. They are structures with component types. Don't they belong >> in node `Composite Types'? > > That seems logical. It's a corner case, since alist and plist can have omitted arguments, so it is not necessary to specify the composite elements like the other composite types. But I don't mind moving the rather long descriptions to Composite Types node. Changed in the emacs-23 branch. > But this report was marked as "notabug", but doesn't show how it got > that mark. No idea; operator error maybe. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 02 20:47:46 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jul 2011 00:47:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdAqf-0005XP-Nz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:45 -0400 Received: from vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.143]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdAqa-0005XA-FR for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:44 -0400 Received: from furball (dhcp128036014003.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-02.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p630lYp2016828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 2 Jul 2011 20:47:35 -0400 From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: close 7545 Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:47:34 -0400 Message-ID: <877h80i40p.fsf@stupidchicken.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.143 X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) close 7545 thanks From unknown Mon Aug 18 15:40:20 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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