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Type M-gnus to start GNUS. 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. =D0=B0=D0= =B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4. 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. 5. Press S D e to resume editing. 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4", you will = see a sequence of digits "01234". Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. Incidentally, a similar problem, though not as bad, occurs with German characters (e.g. =C3=A4) which get replaced with \number after pressing S D= e. Many thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 09:37:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Nickolai Dobrynin" Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.17361562002608 (code B ref 75397); Mon, 06 Jan 2025 09:37:03 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2025 09:36:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36705 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUjXL-0000fz-Ht for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:36:39 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([2001:a60:0:28:0:1:25:1]:33595) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUjXJ-0000fp-FM for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:36:38 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YRTb74vvcz1sKx2; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:36:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YRTb70qR3z1qqlS; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:36:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id SmFP6Xb3i4Fm; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: r26ilLk6jCD0qJLUBsO4nxdrmUDGKvhc1iqC92NiyHX0iZgc3PGfnjd3d3Yh045Y Received: from tiger.home (aftr-82-135-83-66.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.83.66]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 (CET) Received: by tiger.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B02E31F07F; Mon, 6 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> (Nickolai Dobrynin's message of "Mon, 06 Jan 2025 01:49:38 +0100") References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> X-Yow: I had a lease on an OEDIPUS COMPLEX back in '81... Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87ldvo9tct.fsf@linux-m68k.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it saves it. gnus-summary-resend-message-edit assumes that the stored message is encoded and goes through an unibyte buffer while trying to decode it, which then strips off all non-ascii bits from the characters. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: Any workarounds for this? 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[2003:ea:ef29:126e:c789:9520:e640:98e3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d80701bf20sm24492330a12.83.2025.01.07.10.13.49 for <75397@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 07 Jan 2025 10:13:49 -0800 (PST) From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:13:49 +0100 Message-ID: <8734hulcf6.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 22:07:19 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Andreas, 1. Can you suggest a workaround for this? 2. For clarity's sake, would it be better to change the title of the bug report to, e.g., "messages get corrupted after being saved to "drafts" b/c message-dont-send doesn't encode them before saving"? This would probably summarize the problem much better to the rest of the Emacs team. From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 12:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Nickolai Dobrynin" Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.17363404553611 (code B ref 75397); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 12:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 12:47:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46348 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVVTC-0000wA-LL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38432) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVVT8-0000vk-Ct for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:31 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVVT3-0002tW-0Q; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 07:47:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=SerBoH7uVCRznT1ETCbBVVKD25aPNIUyHhvQjY+8m1U=; b=oBY3iO/N/KlF JigLPp5MecCNwXjmXzxcLrFHXKBPoREvDlt7EdUXl7QgLvnWh5zDM/DRQ7UTnpeKkWDvq4GSECoEq eJCtD9OSiI4VOAgLy6JuTSEuPmTRqdP4ZkiP2GKQj/PBS8CJbeeylmasL4wxkfBfCPEINheIExk2F 9G7IlvAombZDPT3TnxKZy1zsSDlYP8VUqcjsizYnxhaz7j7EcDpbtUyuybcp332MuSz5btjsZhwwx TFN+pl7Wdl7xjr8826i4hCTPOwANvDxfpXPcGdyDwkJB6/oHYl6R/kEqDypHrSP1zriDJm7+iEU7l tjVzE9Qvp/jJHkJtiJdvyQ==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 14:47:22 +0200 Message-Id: <868qrl4gmd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <8734hulcf6.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> (ndobrynin@gmail.com) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> <8734hulcf6.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" > Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2025 19:13:49 +0100 > > 1. Can you suggest a workaround for this? > > 2. For clarity's sake, would it be better to change the title of the > bug report to, e.g., "messages get corrupted after being saved to "drafts" b/c > message-dont-send doesn't encode them before saving"? This would > probably summarize the problem much better to the rest of the Emacs team. No need. The Emacs team, such as it is, took good note of your report, and will investigate the ways to fix this soon. At that time, we may have suggestions for workarounds or patches for fixing the problem. It's just that we didn't have yet time to do so. For now, the only workaround to try I can suggest is to explicitly bind the coding-system while saving the draft, like this: C-x RET c utf-8-emacs RET C-c C-d If after that "S D e" doesn't restore the original Cyrillic text, try this instead: C-x RET c utf-8-emacs RET S D e P.S. Please don't change the Subject line when you respond to messages in this thread: it makes it a bit harder to find the previous/next messages when reading the discussions. I've restored the original Subject on my response. From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 15:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@gmail.com Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.17363502312557 (code B ref 75397); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 15:31:01 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 15:30:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48554 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVY0t-0000f9-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42290) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVY0r-0000eo-8i for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:29 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVY0l-0008Q4-Dg; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:30:23 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ryDsqYkjBoF7WLZR1WsqS4Z53ZQkY/oI0OQpkMn6Uo4=; b=Z5Hz2lLjSEYRA2LbBPmS KZrz5spGY4YGfe6s3S+GbPv032mjoaAZUQpYAj4a3zgBHBwkvuQ7vp3hWsPF7qsfVb0+M6rsc9P1D o4bxe1H5z6VCv3VGHJpbzIfzS8QQl1vqbcHLlmeLXcATX0BnY4ziIJVikOwdidEzRd1vo479ONB4K 2YLjPOq2MH0IEzcQJt7qv9f3OR5w7IE4fqlBaY8x9kvhlv30Fk5drbzOMEgMRIeEH/X1f4BiWl8DH que5IGhYVift1GiMSJ7Wqd54fH8oDoZgPvXtGYCfJUS9USjDXvPfiJ9lf/PJWRVu3UifszD3J9I93 0yMt0JiGhTCXQg==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:30:18 +0200 Message-Id: <86tta92uid.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87ldvo9tct.fsf@linux-m68k.org> (message from Andreas Schwab on Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@linux-m68k.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Andreas Schwab > Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 > > On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > > > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > > > > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. > > The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it > saves it. I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you describe above: (defun message-dont-send () "Don't send the message you have been editing. Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." (interactive nil message-mode) (set-buffer-modified-p t) (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) (message-bury (current-buffer)) (message-do-actions actions))) So message-dont-send saves the buffer. And that buffer has a buffer-file-coding-system set in message-set-auto-save-file-name, which is called when message-mode is turned on (which is supposed to happen when you press 'm' in Gnus): (setq buffer-file-coding-system message-draft-coding-system))) And message-draft-coding-system is: (defvar message-draft-coding-system mm-auto-save-coding-system "Coding system to compose mail.") which in my testing, starting from "emacs -Q", produces utf-8-emacs, as I'd expect. In my testing, the draft is saved using utf-8-emacs, and if I them visit it, I get the Cyrillic text back. As expected. So where does the above breaks? Is the value of mm-auto-save-coding-system different? Otherwise, save-buffer should have encoded the draft's text. What did I miss? From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@gmail.com Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.173635520517774 (code B ref 75397); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 16:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 16:53:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48675 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVZJ6-0004cb-Ii for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 11:53:24 -0500 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:58838) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVZJ1-0004cH-Bp for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 11:53:22 -0500 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSvB54WvZz1qsPK; Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4YSvB52kwQz1qqlY; Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:17 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id bEmfuSOLsyBF; Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 (CET) X-Auth-Info: Du+1itA86/bnZcmbVEOVVc51PWmTGh61mJn+v7b2HNW4oozwv2wpeDF+rUyW2l8N Received: from igel.home (aftr-82-135-83-68.dynamic.mnet-online.de [82.135.83.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 (CET) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 776CA2C1A30; Wed, 8 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: <86tta92uid.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:30:18 +0200") References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86tta92uid.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 Message-ID: <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) On Jan 08 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Andreas Schwab >> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 >> >> On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: >> >> > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. >> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. >> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. >> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. >> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. >> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". >> > >> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text >> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft >> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. >> >> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it >> saves it. > > I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you > describe above: It is about MIME encoding. > (defun message-dont-send () > "Don't send the message you have been editing. > Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." > (interactive nil message-mode) > (set-buffer-modified-p t) > (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) > (message-bury (current-buffer)) > (message-do-actions actions))) This just saves the raw buffer contents, but gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC2822 mail, with suitable MIME headers. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." 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Type M-gnus to start GNUS. >>> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. >>> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e.= =D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4. >>> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. >>> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. >>> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4",= you will see a sequence of digits "01234". >>> > >>> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary= text >>> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft >>> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. >>>=20 >>> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message wh= en it >>> saves it. >>=20 >> I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you >> describe above: Andreas> It is about MIME encoding. >> (defun message-dont-send () >> "Don't send the message you have been editing. >> Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." >> (interactive nil message-mode) >> (set-buffer-modified-p t) >> (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >> (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) >> (message-bury (current-buffer)) >> (message-do-actions actions))) Andreas> This just saves the raw buffer contents, but Andreas> gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC= 2822 mail, Andreas> with suitable MIME headers. Yes. Which is why the command to edit an unsent draft is 'e' (or 'D e'). Robert --=20 From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 18:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andreas Schwab Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org, ndobrynin@gmail.com Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.173636177111792 (code B ref 75397); Wed, 08 Jan 2025 18:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2025 18:42:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48990 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVb11-000347-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34902) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tVb10-00033o-13 for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:50 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tVb0t-0005KM-NH; Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:42:43 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=uJ2sP+pq9lhAnlzDGrvhOUlaPyFxia3TgQPumJOL3bM=; b=cRUF+s+1pWeDFaCu3dyX ufkrJ72PR+Ka6J2tfAk4jiXAdbyiitlv2E5gDTddXKPMKZLJ/WVkOUrTsgG8+dtAI1Yc7alJ9aIqb V0B7XeLuxg4x5n1Z/6B+CDnxGO/R7G1/u12V8Vbc15qXwugb/W0CC3exAV34JLnBwDwejjVBz+r9P Aezb/QpmquRd0YIWnB3KIZmF/qH7JMTYqk5urud9imL9TSeJR/0dCdzQjkFxpfW83FfiveDBDilX/ fr1h++mV6Zzoff7WXzP2/3er0Uo2gp8gQlG1gNsvUGsTWGguX8HM+TLtj6gTQnx4vj6VqeBiajC0N aF6C3R4Sb8oV9w==; Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 20:42:39 +0200 Message-Id: <86plkx2lls.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@igel.home> (message from Andreas Schwab on Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100) References: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> <87ldvo9tct.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86tta92uid.fsf@gnu.org> <87bjwhz1qb.fsf@igel.home> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Andreas Schwab > Cc: ndobrynin@gmail.com, 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 > > On Jan 08 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > >> From: Andreas Schwab > >> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 > >> > >> On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > >> > >> > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > >> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > >> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > >> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > >> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > >> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > >> > > >> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > >> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > >> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. > >> > >> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it > >> saves it. > > > > I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you > > describe above: > > It is about MIME encoding. > > > (defun message-dont-send () > > "Don't send the message you have been editing. > > Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." > > (interactive nil message-mode) > > (set-buffer-modified-p t) > > (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) > > (message-bury (current-buffer)) > > (message-do-actions actions))) > > This just saves the raw buffer contents, but > gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC2822 mail, > with suitable MIME headers. OK, but then where is it documented that "S D e" in Gnus Summary is supposed to read the draft saved by "C-c C-d" in the mail buffer? Could it be that these two are not supposed to work together? The node "Drafts" in the Gnus manual describesa different procedure. If I follow it, then after typing "D e" in the nndraft:drafts group, I get placed in the *unsent mail* buffer with the correct Cyrillic text. Nickolai, did you try to use these different commands in your scenario? 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The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 75397@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 75397: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D75397 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1737882362-10148-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 75397-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2025 09:05:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54350 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbyaK-0002cq-Oj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 04:05:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41650) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbyaI-0002cc-DZ for 75397-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 04:05:39 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tbyaC-0006kG-Mv; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 04:05:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=crxdr3hFWD3Z6FrkvTrXzAjnryjYEursMhx1f9fqQJU=; b=nNfjDmIiLAq8/dbCWx5N Zy6nk/KaZ0XCYN2X9ML255vmqrs5rxy+DxVCNkJdRV5G5Yref13UUgGjiGmLvDfZv4M1I30O/Z42q RS1n2GnQq21hdiPsp4APLG0d12uggvCSVfMunbciitFM1kPYnNbTYggIbb4baOT0C/mM2wVv+1p/V 4caNGvAhkKIzWlnzlKQ5nRUKnkx9nvPGoCMR3tkdvDdvEX43iOwhx5X6dYLqgYhgdAnNK/aKGCEUU 8M3EfOwKDlrDz1FvapDM0MaWKXvyYF8ief96L8/rpP4lxdc+h2AXoIdW5ZKskJjszdB98s5OCxNjL 4lxLjzWT93sb9A==; Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:05:29 +0200 Message-Id: <86tt9mrlly.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: "Nickolai Dobrynin" , Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <87r04qc60f.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> (ndobrynin@gmail.com) Subject: Re: [Nickolai Dobrynin] Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) References: <87r04qc60f.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 75397-done Cc: 75397-done@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, schwab@linux-m68k.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" > Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:51:28 +0100 > > Eli, Andreas, Robert, > > Apologies for contacting you directly outside the bug tracking system. > I did reply to Eli's question, but my message never made it to the > discussion thread at > > https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=753971 > > (Why?) Maybe Michael (CC'ed) could explain that. > Anyway, please find my response below. > > Best regards. > > -------------------- Start of forwarded message -------------------- > From: Nickolai Dobrynin > To: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > Subject: Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support > (GNU/Linux) > Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 21:38:34 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Andreas Schwab > >> Cc: ndobrynin@gmail.com, 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 17:53:16 +0100 > >> > >> On Jan 08 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> > >> >> Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org > >> >> From: Andreas Schwab > >> >> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:36:34 +0100 > >> >> > >> >> On Jan 06 2025, Nickolai Dobrynin wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. > >> >> > 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. > >> >> > 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. абвгд. > >> >> > 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. > >> >> > 5. Press S D e to resume editing. > >> >> > 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "абвгд", you will see a sequence of digits "01234". > >> >> > > >> >> > Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text > >> >> > files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft > >> >> > group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. > >> >> > >> >> The problem is that message-dont-send doesn't encode the message when it > >> >> saves it. > >> > > >> > I must be missing something here, because I don't see what you > >> > describe above: > >> > >> It is about MIME encoding. > >> > >> > (defun message-dont-send () > >> > "Don't send the message you have been editing. > >> > Instead, just auto-save the buffer and then bury it." > >> > (interactive nil message-mode) > >> > (set-buffer-modified-p t) > >> > (save-buffer) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > >> > (let ((actions message-postpone-actions)) > >> > (message-bury (current-buffer)) > >> > (message-do-actions actions))) > >> > >> This just saves the raw buffer contents, but > >> gnus-summary-resend-message-edit expects it to be a proper RFC2822 mail, > >> with suitable MIME headers. > > > > OK, but then where is it documented that "S D e" in Gnus Summary is > > supposed to read the draft saved by "C-c C-d" in the mail buffer? > > Could it be that these two are not supposed to work together? > > > > The node "Drafts" in the Gnus manual describesa different procedure. > > If I follow it, then after typing "D e" in the nndraft:drafts group, I > > get placed in the *unsent mail* buffer with the correct Cyrillic text. > > > > Nickolai, did you try to use these different commands in your > > scenario? > > I just tried them now, and I can confirm that both "e" and "D e" > work. Based on the recent discussion, it appears I've made a newbie > mistake by using "S D e". Thanks for telling us. 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[2003:ea:ef12:6074:cfb3:1799:d18a:4eca]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-aac0f014538sm2197105566b.146.2025.01.05.16.49.38 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sun, 05 Jan 2025 16:49:39 -0800 (PST) From: "Nickolai Dobrynin" To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 01:49:38 +0100 Message-ID: <87ikqs4vh9.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::632; envelope-from=ndobrynin@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x632.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 04:08:32 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) 1. Type M-gnus to start GNUS. 2. Start composing a message by pressing 'm'. 3. Enter the first, say, 5 letters of the Cyrillic alphabet, i.e. =D0=B0=D0= =B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4. 4. Press C-c C-d to save the draft. 5. Press S D e to resume editing. 6. Bizarrely enough, instead of "=D0=B0=D0=B1=D0=B2=D0=B3=D0=B4", you will = see a sequence of digits "01234". Is this even real?? By the way, this does not occur with ordinary text files. And everything works fine in the view mode inside the draft group. Pressing S D e, on the other hand, makes things go haywire. Incidentally, a similar problem, though not as bad, occurs with German characters (e.g. =C3=A4) which get replaced with \number after pressing S D= e. Many thanks. ------------=_1737882362-10148-1-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 22:46:01 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#75397: [Nickolai Dobrynin] Re: bug#75397: 29.4; GNUS message mode lacks Cyrillic support (GNU/Linux) Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 75397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Nickolai Dobrynin" Cc: 75397@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , schwab@linux-m68k.org, rpluim@gmail.com Received: via spool by 75397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B75397.173788381416681 (code B ref 75397); Sun, 26 Jan 2025 09:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 75397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2025 09:30:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54597 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbyy6-0004Ky-79 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 04:30:14 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:49443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tbyy2-0004EJ-TW for 75397@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 04:30:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1737883803; x=1738488603; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=cEmria5k4sZrAT/B6VRt5zeZVeaRoDNAd6d4ZiLsu70=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=bOYD8crZ2VHztkHWWLSO3oj8u/RW+FP7+Th9gbSvr9usM7e4J+q8ybjXUjBjv723 WhhFhjFG7ZXCQTMzQIRA0ORU56G+Vh84ycJKl0b2SjG2QY9UkEBuM19zYbKBEU+B+ jSIoNnJTfA7NdjUbN7z/1b93kT5yAwvCHiwkQuVSTWb++67Oyz9/RADac9DLzx2Ly eZnGMUdnDvHkKKa9J8NbUsP6wDwzvRiVZGeer4cLCeSgycK4bub2QdHKYMecwfnZu ubJk7lVNjK5TTsWhrPOZ+TkI6gJGav4S9XCDFyMgocMu7P00BwNtfu4+8h7JJZyKF 6XL8aiNV0ZPAhnyywg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MdNY2-1t2vCF32R6-00iozG; Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:30:03 +0100 From: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <86tt9mrlly.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 26 Jan 2025 11:05:29 +0200") References: <87r04qc60f.fsf@qUsTRXiEQl2mqe0RhRTCBvdMK1NPDFYUhwG8H6ChHv1t8DocVciblLlLbOcY.dobrynin.net> <86tt9mrlly.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2025 10:30:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87a5bdly78.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:3F0w1+evq3b3X7KaqS0KuShY6L9iI3vdTYUg7a3kcTpEcFTz+hP 1S90JAfAJPVCIZiBmHWcpdgAOC5pvXO8qVoN6GDuy2DFFM3X0gI22o9l63DmNt7GXd9EUow S/mevwz1A4DstklH+vlPqPGhTXQUNKhupEhsaV1WwAj/MfaCbEU9Brw+9BWwPfqzPmDGeU6 pX5Cx8vqv+++EzxONUHnA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:jW4fjBI6hVk=;9ICjn8924SBoUiFmsISdFOe+L8H YDRJBw7V4etWgJbNPFkO5D3MuGVh+pgSTfEf+KOjgg6U7NnKoxXTSHI2HTNStOXtycXwU9Es1 Nx+ol2Q0wUgidO/XpRPHB5mpEs1/CNF1iysUFPxeObwlPiQBEWcurxFiN7iBLJalNf5/UvZZS kXKnSKg+b5Zb/GHnuO3e7cj8gx3D0w2T6B5ETMOG0+oTdTth7D909B3RJUSMEi+J2dNWeTaTy 2FoUfVvmSHYD4/IrIbmQMz29T9rR+UXHqwPvzAt62Jmurr4j6DmmW8vpAsHs2/1WzEP/o/5KQ 9JfJOoQh6ZwhWOUZ9t8jhyjgXgBBMrKusMP/wNqH8+qyza7dMCwf1IzptKTcuT1Vyk1rUxWBI OCLFxO7BSdE/2gdfJdYOBvyRkK6FPUH8iDCRrBT2BuBLr8DgewuAc17TYseGjmPckuLRkNyoG cb8/pBtQJLgsKuRSeRX1LQ+vI1XxBKByunMfVNRK6wk1heLiomj0E/FagKXQXqSKGyeD+xjey TC4svh7dGe3/gDHNyGbKVwmJ6qFa64xm1HIfuOdq27hL4D3Mo2SfqUacfnUb1wNmKbffT/Gik buo3bqYjqoGTXhHz7PUhraKkEp9inaxB+Hb6vOEv8qhe7O3JopPaHi++qs/RUYV9YZDAN5sAK mdnayqpk2gwmEAKkUGWW9T4gycbidgWU55huHCMbKkrZMlN+ueauBXq9vR8AplJZOQrt+boY+ P+l8+Bl5zT4UymeTo8wx7jo3xG4TjVKoYnmr9E7NFQX5k6sh6QcOu06A12p9L9NHDeyTdwpsF 2Lk4YkRAvhzNxe3zKTLwEsQgO6+gFG2q/eIo8K+/IcW8H9Dg0glOk+NtJGegZxagKYs5zpLH+ U07grX7E5gPgmQ9F9QxV1h+PhjNPFH9AHRpp3K2Lu3pvHCce3OKJOHF51S2haZZVq3biFkaL6 2PgBtBZhJQNTXLX0pKzCL4EofkD8MAtESFrIrH6xcxmlDUIgAJJd8tmrUH3xtWsQImpYb3fuK a0R3HILj0pNjUzZsfjc4oK/1agBQWcLV52MPsooQ/F/pjTULMzEQC3cTl98dq6ohWqoUhe0DI Hjh8wj644zDzh22HWw/FJ7fZx550R7WpVrMOYhnrvE3tFahqtO3H84zCIKO8B4rG7LfjebGMw 7Xl8jXgRsTGrWzBYl0jbbv16VB0aYwuaAF8A6aJRxMw== X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) Hi Nickolai, >> Eli, Andreas, Robert, >> >> Apologies for contacting you directly outside the bug tracking system. >> I did reply to Eli's question, but my message never made it to the >> discussion thread at >> >> https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=753971 >> >> (Why?) > > Maybe Michael (CC'ed) could explain that. Perhaps it helps to use the correct bug number (75397 instead of 753971)? The debbugs mailman logs show two posts from you on Jan 5 and Jan 7. Nothing on Jan 8; perhaps a reject due to an error of the moderator? Otherwise I remember a report of Bob Proulx about GNU servers (including debbugs) being under hard spam attcks, some weeks ago. Perhaps this is related? Best regards, Michael.