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31.0.50; run-with-idle-timer not working unless there is some activity

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To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#75361: closed (31.0.50; run-with-idle-timer not working
 unless there is some activity)
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 21:29:02 +0000

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From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 31.0.50; run-with-idle-timer not working unless there is some activity
Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 01:30:03 +0300

The function is not working unless there is some activity. I remember it
worked well in past, do not know what changed.

(defun my-message ()
    (message (format-time-string "%T Hello")))

(run-with-idle-timer 10 t 'my-message)

From that point I will see one hello message but if I do not touch
anything it will not repeat.

That is bug.

It should be repeating the message each 10 seconds.


In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 4, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.38, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-12-05 built on lco2
Repository revision: 25b4bf7fcd75564f23b2e60e29e8ff7354186371
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-- 
Jean Louis

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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
Cc: 75361-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75361: 31.0.50; run-with-idle-timer not working unless there
 is some activity
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2025 15:28:06 -0600

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> tags 75361 notabug
> thanks
>
>> From: Jean Louis <bugs <at> gnu.support>
>> Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 01:30:03 +0300
>>
>>
>> The function is not working unless there is some activity. I remember it
>> worked well in past, do not know what changed.
>>
>> (defun my-message ()
>>     (message (format-time-string "%T Hello")))
>>
>> (run-with-idle-timer 10 t 'my-message)
>>
>> >From that point I will see one hello message but if I do not touch
>> anything it will not repeat.
>
> That's expected.  From the ELisp manual:
>
>      Emacs becomes “idle” when it starts waiting for user input (unless it
>   waits for input with a timeout, *note Reading One Event::), and it
>   remains idle until the user provides some input.  If a timer is set for
>   five seconds of idleness, it runs approximately five seconds after Emacs
>   first becomes idle.  Even if REPEAT is non-‘nil’, this timer will not
>   run again as long as Emacs remains idle, because the duration of
>   idleness will continue to increase and will not go down to five seconds
>   again.
>
>> That is bug.
>>
>> It should be repeating the message each 10 seconds.
>
> See above: your expectations are incorrect.
>
> This is not a bug.

I'm therefore closing this bug report.

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