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30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 09:39:09 +1000

Steps to reproduce:
* env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
* invoke M-x man
* request a man page (e.g. emacs)

This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:

    Unmatched '''.
    BEGIN: Command not found.
    anonblank=0: Command not found.
    }: Command not found.
    Illegal variable name.
    {: Command not found.
    }: Command not found.
    Illegal variable name.
    Badly placed ()'s.
    Unmatched '''.

    process exited abnormally with code 1

Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
expected man page.

It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:

    commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
    Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
    Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100

Many thanks,
-Ted



In GNU Emacs 30.0.93 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version
 3.24.38, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-12-20 built on hades
System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)

Configured using:
 'configure --enable-link-time-optimization
 --prefix=/usr/local/stow/emacs-30.0.93 'CFLAGS=-g3 -Wall -O3 -pipe'
 --with-pgtk --with-native-compilation=aot
 --enable-locallisppath=/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp'

Configured features:
CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG
LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG
SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER WEBP
XIM GTK3 ZLIB

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Message #8 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:46:28 -0600

Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:

> Steps to reproduce:
> * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
> * invoke M-x man
> * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
>
> This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
>
>     Unmatched '''.
>     BEGIN: Command not found.
>     anonblank=0: Command not found.
>     }: Command not found.
>     Illegal variable name.
>     {: Command not found.
>     }: Command not found.
>     Illegal variable name.
>     Badly placed ()'s.
>     Unmatched '''.
>
>     process exited abnormally with code 1
>
> Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
> expected man page.
>
> It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
>
>     commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
>     Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>     Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
>
> Many thanks,
> -Ted

Thanks for the bug report.  For emacs-30, we should look into a some
small workaround.  I'm copying in Michae.

In Emacs 31, I want to investigate not calling out to a shell at all.
The code that does that dates back to 1991... and what was a worthwhile
optimization back then is not necessarily relevant today.

Message #11 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, phelps <at> gnusto.com, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 10:50:56 +0200

> Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:46:28 -0600
> 
> Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:
> 
> > Steps to reproduce:
> > * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
> > * invoke M-x man
> > * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
> >
> > This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
> >
> >     Unmatched '''.
> >     BEGIN: Command not found.
> >     anonblank=0: Command not found.
> >     }: Command not found.
> >     Illegal variable name.
> >     {: Command not found.
> >     }: Command not found.
> >     Illegal variable name.
> >     Badly placed ()'s.
> >     Unmatched '''.
> >
> >     process exited abnormally with code 1
> >
> > Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
> > expected man page.
> >
> > It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
> >
> >     commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
> >     Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> >     Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -Ted
> 
> Thanks for the bug report.  For emacs-30, we should look into a some
> small workaround.  I'm copying in Michae.

I think we should force SHELL to be 'sh' (except on Windows) before
calling shell-command etc.

Message #14 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, phelps <at> gnusto.com, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 03:26:42 -0600

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:46:28 -0600
>>
>> Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:
>>
>> > Steps to reproduce:
>> > * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
>> > * invoke M-x man
>> > * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
>> >
>> > This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
>> >
>> >     Unmatched '''.
>> >     BEGIN: Command not found.
>> >     anonblank=0: Command not found.
>> >     }: Command not found.
>> >     Illegal variable name.
>> >     {: Command not found.
>> >     }: Command not found.
>> >     Illegal variable name.
>> >     Badly placed ()'s.
>> >     Unmatched '''.
>> >
>> >     process exited abnormally with code 1
>> >
>> > Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
>> > expected man page.
>> >
>> > It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
>> >
>> >     commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
>> >     Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>> >     Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
>> >
>> > Many thanks,
>> > -Ted
>>
>> Thanks for the bug report.  For emacs-30, we should look into a some
>> small workaround.  I'm copying in Michae.
>
> I think we should force SHELL to be 'sh' (except on Windows) before
> calling shell-command etc.

I was first thinking /bin/bash but if we don't expect to need it, then
sh is better.

Message #17 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, phelps <at> gnusto.com, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 13:47:47 +0200

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 03:26:42 -0600
> Cc: phelps <at> gnusto.com, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> >> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> >> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:46:28 -0600
> >>
> >> Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:
> >>
> >> > Steps to reproduce:
> >> > * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
> >> > * invoke M-x man
> >> > * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
> >> >
> >> > This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
> >> >
> >> >     Unmatched '''.
> >> >     BEGIN: Command not found.
> >> >     anonblank=0: Command not found.
> >> >     }: Command not found.
> >> >     Illegal variable name.
> >> >     {: Command not found.
> >> >     }: Command not found.
> >> >     Illegal variable name.
> >> >     Badly placed ()'s.
> >> >     Unmatched '''.
> >> >
> >> >     process exited abnormally with code 1
> >> >
> >> > Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
> >> > expected man page.
> >> >
> >> > It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
> >> >
> >> >     commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
> >> >     Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
> >> >     Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
> >> >
> >> > Many thanks,
> >> > -Ted
> >>
> >> Thanks for the bug report.  For emacs-30, we should look into a some
> >> small workaround.  I'm copying in Michae.
> >
> > I think we should force SHELL to be 'sh' (except on Windows) before
> > calling shell-command etc.
> 
> I was first thinking /bin/bash but if we don't expect to need it, then
> sh is better.

If we do need Bash and not just Bourne-compatible shell, we have a
serious bug there.  I hope that is not the case.

Message #20 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: michael.albinus <at> gmx.de, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 01:58:17 -0600

Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:

> On 3/1/25 22:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>
>> If we do need Bash and not just Bourne-compatible shell, we have a
>> serious bug there.  I hope that is not the case.
>
> I don't think there's anything bash-specific required, just the ability
> to redirect stdout and stderr independently.  I've confirmed that
> Debian's /bin/sh (dash) works just fine.

Yes, indeed, all we need is plain old sh.  Sorry for the noise.

Message #23 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: michael.albinus <at> gmx.de, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2025 18:12:02 +1100

On 3/1/25 22:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 03:26:42 -0600
>> Cc: phelps <at> gnusto.com, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus <at> gmx.de
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
>>
>>>> Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>>>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2025 02:46:28 -0600
>>>>
>>>> Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Steps to reproduce:
>>>>> * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
>>>>> * invoke M-x man
>>>>> * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
>>>>>
>>>>> This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
>>>>>
>>>>>      Unmatched '''.
>>>>>      BEGIN: Command not found.
>>>>>      anonblank=0: Command not found.
>>>>>      }: Command not found.
>>>>>      Illegal variable name.
>>>>>      {: Command not found.
>>>>>      }: Command not found.
>>>>>      Illegal variable name.
>>>>>      Badly placed ()'s.
>>>>>      Unmatched '''.
>>>>>
>>>>>      process exited abnormally with code 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
>>>>> expected man page.
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
>>>>>
>>>>>      commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
>>>>>      Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>>>>>      Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> -Ted
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the bug report.  For emacs-30, we should look into a some
>>>> small workaround.  I'm copying in Michae.
>>>
>>> I think we should force SHELL to be 'sh' (except on Windows) before
>>> calling shell-command etc.
>>
>> I was first thinking /bin/bash but if we don't expect to need it, then
>> sh is better.
> 
> If we do need Bash and not just Bourne-compatible shell, we have a
> serious bug there.  I hope that is not the case.

I don't think there's anything bash-specific required, just the ability 
to redirect stdout and stderr independently.  I've confirmed that 
Debian's /bin/sh (dash) works just fine.

-Ted

Message #26 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>
Cc: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 03:20:21 +0000

Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com> writes:

> Steps to reproduce:
> * env SHELL=/bin/tcsh emacs -Q
> * invoke M-x man
> * request a man page (e.g. emacs)
>
> This will produce output like the following instead of the man page:
>
>     Unmatched '''.
>     BEGIN: Command not found.
>     anonblank=0: Command not found.
>     }: Command not found.
>     Illegal variable name.
>     {: Command not found.
>     }: Command not found.
>     Illegal variable name.
>     Badly placed ()'s.
>     Unmatched '''.
>
>     process exited abnormally with code 1
>
> Replacing /bin/tcsh with /bin/bash in the above command produces the
> expected man page.
>
> It looks like the behavior was broken by the following commit:
>
>     commit 861ac933dd8aed1028edc4b9142400e3702874d5
>     Author: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
>     Date:   Wed Nov 1 16:54:31 2023 +0100
>
> Many thanks,
> -Ted

Michael, could you please take a look at this bug?

Message #29 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 09:33:56 +0100

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi Stefan,

> Michael, could you please take a look at this bug?

Sorry, I've overlooked this bug report. The appended small patch fixes
it. Would it be OK to push to emacs-30?

Best regards, Michael.

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Message #32 received at 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: phelps <at> gnusto.com, 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:34:24 +0200

> Cc: 75308 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ted Phelps <phelps <at> gnusto.com>
> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 09:33:56 +0100
> From:  Michael Albinus via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
>  the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
> 
> Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> > Michael, could you please take a look at this bug?
> 
> Sorry, I've overlooked this bug report. The appended small patch fixes
> it. Would it be OK to push to emacs-30?

Yes, thanks.

Message #37 received at 75308-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: phelps <at> gnusto.com, 75308-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas <at> gmail.com
Subject: Re: bug#75308: 30.0.93; man.el assume shell is bash
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 11:04:08 +0100

Emacs: 30.1

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> Sorry, I've overlooked this bug report. The appended small patch fixes
>> it. Would it be OK to push to emacs-30?
>
> Yes, thanks.

Pushed, closing the bug.

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