GNU bug report logs - #75305
31.0.50; gnus-refer-thread-use-search isn't exact enough about how the current group is searched

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Reported by: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de>

Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 23:37:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Found in version 31.0.50

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Message #64 received at 75305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andrew Cohen <acohen <at> ust.hk>
To: Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de>
Cc: eric <at> ericabrahamsen.net, 75305 <at> debbugs.gnu.org,
 Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: Re: bug#75305: 31.0.50; gnus-refer-thread-use-search isn't exact
 enough about how the current group is searched
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 07:28:12 +0800
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>>>>> "BB" == Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar <at> thaodan.de> writes:

    BB> Andrew Cohen <acohen <at> ust.hk> writes:
    >>>>>>> "EZ" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
    >> 
    EZ> Ping! Can we please make some progress here?
    >> 
    >> All set to commit, I think. I have been running with the
    >> following in my personal tree for the past few weeks without
    >> issue. If no objections we can commit.

    BB> I would have hoped there would be a response to my mail. Further
    BB> I don't mind to refactor the contribution to the issues you
    BB> mentioned but I don't think it is great to just take over IMHO.


I sincerely apologize. It was never my intent to take over and I
definitely don't want to make you feel disenfranchised. I am perfectly
happy to let you continue to manage this issue.

Eli contacted me about this since I wrote and maintain the code that is
implicated in this change. In the end I thought that the tiny change
(along with the defcustom and documentation changes that you suggested)
in gnus-sum.el was the best way to introduce the feature that you
suggested.

And again I apologize for not responding to your previous email.

>In think this would be potentially to slow. That's what's happening in
>nnselect refer article which can cause that it searches on the whole
>server e.g. an imap server which means it could take hours to finish
>searching.

This seems like something might be broken? I routinely search imap
servers with 100 groups and it finishes in a few seconds. Does your imap
server maintain a searchable index? All of them should, and then the
searching is basically instantaneous, aside from the cost of the network
round trip and the changing of groups.

>From my point of view when talking about a non-virtual group it does
>makes sense to refer to the "current" as in the group that the user is
>in when pressing A T.
>However I get the point of that not being idea for nnselect groups. To
>be honest I did not think of that when writing the patch. I agree using
>artgroup is better in this context. This also aligns with the original
>behavior I wanted to align with when writing the patch i.e. to include
>the groups listed in gnus-refer-thread-use-search but also include the
>articles which would be found if gnus-refer-thread-use-search was nil.

Although I originally suggested this, I think I was mistaken for doing
so. The nnselect search routine does indeed collect the component groups
and search them. So this aligns the behavior of 'current with
gnus-refer-thread-use-search set to nil.

>From my personal point of the just that was the goal so I could e.g. put
>the send group into the list of groups searched when building the thread
>including the current group.

Agreed. 

FWIW here is the patch with Eli's suggested fixes incorporated. Feel
free to discard---I won't be offended. 

[0001-Allow-current-in-gnus-refer-thread-use-search.patch (text/x-diff, inline)]
From 13d4062453bd8de5718d1781a701f26e17248061 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Andrew G Cohen <cohen <at> andy.bu.edu>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 11:18:37 +0800
Subject: [PATCH] Allow 'current in gnus-refer-thread-use-search

The variable `gnus-refer-thread-use-search' controls which groups are
searched when finding articles in a thread.  The symbol `current' can be
used to include the current group in those searched.

* doc/misc/gnus.texi: Document the use of `current' in
`gnus-refer-thread-use-search'.
* lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el (gnus-summary-refer-thread): Resolve the symbol
`current' to the group from which `gnus-summary-refer-thread' was
invoked.
---
 doc/misc/gnus.texi    | 25 ++++++++++++++-------
 lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el | 51 +++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
 2 files changed, 47 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)

diff --git a/doc/misc/gnus.texi b/doc/misc/gnus.texi
index bdfab7a8718..b09c059cf9a 100644
--- a/doc/misc/gnus.texi
+++ b/doc/misc/gnus.texi
@@ -10546,8 +10546,7 @@ Finding the Parent
 @findex gnus-summary-refer-thread
 @kindex A T @r{(Summary)}
 Display the full thread where the current article appears
-(@code{gnus-summary-refer-thread}).  By default this command looks for
-articles only in the current group.  If the group belongs to a backend
+(@code{gnus-summary-refer-thread}).  If the group belongs to a backend
 that has an associated search engine, articles are found by searching.
 In other cases each header in the current group must be fetched and
 examined, so it usually takes a while.  If you do it often, you may
@@ -10557,12 +10556,22 @@ Finding the Parent
 course, it'll make group entry somewhat slow.
 
 @vindex gnus-refer-thread-use-search
-If @code{gnus-refer-thread-use-search} is @code{nil} (the default)
-then thread-referral only looks for articles in the current group.  If
-this variable is @code{t} the server to which the current group
-belongs is searched (provided that searching is available for the
-server's backend).  If this variable is a list of servers, each server
-in the list is searched.
+If @code{gnus-refer-thread-use-search} is @code{nil} (the default), then
+thread-referral only looks for articles in the current group.
+
+If this variable is @code{t}, and the server to which the current group
+belongs has an associated search engine, then thread-referral searches
+this server.
+
+This variable may also be a list of servers and groups to search.  Each
+element of the list is of the form @w{@code{(@var{server} @var{group1}
+@var{group2}@dots{})}}, where @var{server} is the server and
+@var{group1}, @var{group2}@dots{} are the groups belonging to this
+server that are to be searched.  If the @var{group}s are absent the
+entire server is searched.
+
+This list may also contain the special symbol @code{current}, which will
+add the current group to the list of groups to be searched.
 
 @vindex gnus-refer-thread-limit
 The @code{gnus-refer-thread-limit} variable says how many old (i.e.,
diff --git a/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el b/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el
index 6294825b400..672e4e1a71d 100644
--- a/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el
+++ b/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el
@@ -145,15 +145,21 @@ 'gnus-refer-thread-use-nnir
 (defcustom gnus-refer-thread-use-search nil
   "Specify where to find articles when referring threads.
 A nil value restricts searches for thread-related articles to the
-current group; a value of t searches all groups on the server; a
-list of servers and groups (where each element is a list whose
-car is the server and whose cdr is a list of groups on this
-server or nil to search the entire server) searches these
-server/groups.  This may usefully be set as a group parameter."
-  :version "28.1"
+current group; a value of t searches all groups on the server to which
+the group belongs; a list of servers and groups (where each element is a
+list whose car is the server and whose cdr is a list of groups on this
+server, or nil to search the entire server) searches just these
+server/groups.
+
+The list of server/groups may contain the symbol `current' which
+includes the current group in the list of those searched."
+  :version "31.1"
   :group 'gnus-thread
-  :type '(restricted-sexp :match-alternatives
-                          (listp 't 'nil)))
+  :type '(choice (const :tag "Current group" nil)
+                 (const :tag "All groups" t)
+                 (repeat :tag "Server and groups"
+                         (choice (const :tag "Current Group" current)
+                                 (repeat :tag "Server and groups" string)))))
 
 (defcustom gnus-refer-thread-limit-to-thread nil
   "If non-nil referring a thread will limit the summary buffer to
@@ -9014,25 +9020,28 @@ gnus-delete-duplicate-headers
 
 (defun gnus-summary-refer-thread (&optional limit)
   "Fetch all articles in the current thread.
-A non-numeric prefix arg will search the entire server; without a
-prefix arg only the current group is searched.  If the variable
-`gnus-refer-thread-use-search' is t the prefix arg has the
-reverse meaning.  If searching is not enabled for the current
-group, fetch LIMIT (the numerical prefix) old headers.  If LIMIT
-is non-numeric or nil fetch the number specified by the
-`gnus-refer-thread-limit' variable."
+Find articles in the current group by default.  With a non-numeric
+prefix arg, search all groups on the current server.  If the variable
+`gnus-refer-thread-use-search' is t, invert the effect of the prefix
+arg; if it is a list, search only those groups in the list.  If the
+current group does not have a search engine enabled, find articles by
+fetching LIMIT (the numerical prefix) old headers; if LIMIT is
+non-numeric or nil fetch the number specified by
+`gnus-refer-thread-limit'."
   (interactive "P" gnus-summary-mode)
   (let* ((group gnus-newsgroup-name)
+         (server (gnus-method-to-server (gnus-find-method-for-group group)))
          (header (gnus-summary-article-header))
          (id (mail-header-id header))
          (gnus-inhibit-demon t)
          (gnus-summary-ignore-duplicates t)
          (gnus-refer-thread-use-search
-          (if (or (null limit) (numberp limit))
-              gnus-refer-thread-use-search
-            (if (booleanp gnus-refer-thread-use-search)
-                (not gnus-refer-thread-use-search)
-              gnus-refer-thread-use-search))))
+          (if (listp gnus-refer-thread-use-search)
+              (cl-subst (list server group) 'current
+                        gnus-refer-thread-use-search)
+            (if (or (null limit) (numberp limit))
+                gnus-refer-thread-use-search
+              (not gnus-refer-thread-use-search)))))
     (gnus-summary-insert-articles
      (cond
       ;; If there is a backend-specific method, use it.
@@ -9041,7 +9050,7 @@ gnus-summary-refer-thread
        (gnus-request-thread header group))
       ;; If a search engine is configured, use it.
       ((ignore-errors
-         (gnus-search-server-to-engine (gnus-group-server group)))
+         (gnus-search-server-to-engine server))
        (gnus-search-thread header))
       ;; Otherwise just retrieve some headers.
       (t
-- 
2.47.2

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-- 
Andrew Cohen

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