GNU bug report logs - #7527
24.0.50; (org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)

unarchive 7527

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.0.50; (org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:36:23 -0800

Minor suggestions - no bug.

1. No need to tell users to turn on font-lock - it's on by default now
(for GNU Emacs at least).

2. Likewise transient-mark mode.

3. Maybe be a little softer with the key-binding suggestions.  "Add the
following lines to your `.emacs' file" and "The following lines are
always needed" are a bit heavy, even though the text clarifies that
these are only suggested bindings ("please choose suitable keys
yourself", "Choose your own keys").  Many users might just copy & paste
without reading carefully.  It would probably be enough to advise users
to bind those two commands to keys of their choosing, or to just say 
"Suggested key bindings: ...".

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO
Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags
-Ic:/imagesupport/include'

From: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
To: emacs-orgmode <at> gnu.org
Cc: 7527 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7527: 24.0.50; (org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 18:58:36 +0800

Forwarding documentation suggestions to org upstream:

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

> Minor suggestions - no bug.
>
> 1. No need to tell users to turn on font-lock - it's on by default now
> (for GNU Emacs at least).
>
> 2. Likewise transient-mark mode.
>
> 3. Maybe be a little softer with the key-binding suggestions.  "Add the
> following lines to your `.emacs' file" and "The following lines are
> always needed" are a bit heavy, even though the text clarifies that
> these are only suggested bindings ("please choose suitable keys
> yourself", "Choose your own keys").  Many users might just copy & paste
> without reading carefully.  It would probably be enough to advise users
> to bind those two commands to keys of their choosing, or to just say
> "Suggested key bindings: ...".
>
>
> In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
>  of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO
> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
> configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags
> -Ic:/imagesupport/include'
>

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik <at> gmail.com>
To: Chong Yidong <cyd <at> stupidchicken.com>
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode <at> gnu.org>, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
	7527 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: bug#7527: 24.0.50;
	(org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)
Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:41:18 +0100

On Dec 20, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Chong Yidong wrote:

> Forwarding documentation suggestions to org upstream:
>
> "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:
>
>> Minor suggestions - no bug.
>>
>> 1. No need to tell users to turn on font-lock - it's on by default  
>> now
>> (for GNU Emacs at least).

Done.

>>
>> 2. Likewise transient-mark mode.

I think the manual does a good job here the way it is.

>>
>> 3. Maybe be a little softer with the key-binding suggestions.  "Add  
>> the
>> following lines to your `.emacs' file" and "The following lines are
>> always needed" are a bit heavy, even though the text clarifies that
>> these are only suggested bindings ("please choose suitable keys
>> yourself", "Choose your own keys").  Many users might just copy &  
>> paste
>> without reading carefully.  It would probably be enough to advise  
>> users
>> to bind those two commands to keys of their choosing, or to just say
>> "Suggested key bindings: ...".

I have modified this part, thanks.

This bug can be closed - the changes are in our development version and
will move into Emacs with the next merge.

Thanks

- Carsten

>>
>>
>> In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
>> of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO
>> Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
>> configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags
>> -Ic:/imagesupport/include'
>>
>
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GNU bug report logs - #7527 24.0.50; (org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)

GNU bug report logs - #7527
24.0.50; (org) `Activation node' (minor suggestions)