From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1291183586911 (code B ref -1); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 06:07:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2010 06:06:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfpi-0000Ed-Ah for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:06:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfph-0000ET-6s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:06:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfuu-0003VF-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:12:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:44608) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfuu-0003V5-RW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:11:48 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40195 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PNfug-00030w-G7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:11:48 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfuR-0003Hp-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:11:33 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:21217) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PNfuR-0003GH-7I for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 01:11:19 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB16BGsR001276 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 06:11:17 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB16BEtG027627 for ; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 06:11:14 GMT Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 830052481291183801; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:10:01 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.216.81) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:10:00 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:10:03 -0800 Message-ID: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcuRHmSiJ+feHayRQsq9mJY99olfgQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Evaluate this: `("Foo" . (lambda () "Four score and seven years ago Our forefathers brought forth etc. Etc., etc., etc." (message "HOWDY"))) That doc string is a literal string with two embedded newline chars. Evaluation converts each of those chars to a string of two chars: "\n": ("Foo" lambda nil "Four score and seven years ago\nOur forefathers brought forth etc.\nEtc., etc., etc." (message "Howdy")) Shouldn't happen. (This is particularly messy when used in defcustom values.) In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-11-30 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129121913324063 (code B ref 7524); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 15:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2010 15:58:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNp52-0006G4-Op for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:58:52 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNp51-0006Fq-O6 for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:58:52 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEHAHMB9kxMCqFw/2dsb2JhbACiDIEHcsQyhUcEhF6Ncg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,283,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84232678" Received: from 76-10-161-112.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.161.112]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 01 Dec 2010 11:04:19 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 2461D661BF; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:04:19 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:04:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 30 Nov 2010 22:10:03 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Evaluate this: > `("Foo" . (lambda () > "Four score and seven years ago > Our forefathers brought forth etc. > Etc., etc., etc." > (message "HOWDY"))) > That doc string is a literal string with two embedded newline chars. > Evaluation converts each of those chars to a string of two chars: "\n": > ("Foo" lambda nil "Four score and seven years ago\nOur forefathers brought forth > etc.\nEtc., etc., etc." > (message "Howdy")) It's got nothing to do with backquote. It's just that "foo bar" is just another way to write "foo\nbar": the Elisp reader will return the exact same string in both cases. So the Elisp printer can't know which one was used originally and has to choose arbitrarily which form to output. > Shouldn't happen. Unavoidable. Tho you do get to choose somewhat the print format by choosing between prin1 and princ (aka %s and %S in format). > (This is particularly messy when used in defcustom values.) I don't know what you're referring to. I'll keep the bug open for now, assuming that the defcustom issue will be the actual bug. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129122133027139 (code B ref 7524); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 16:36:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2010 16:35:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNpeU-00073g-DG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:35:30 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNpeS-00073T-AM for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 11:35:29 -0500 Received: from rcsinet13.oracle.com (rcsinet13.oracle.com [148.87.113.125]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB1Gf4sU024061 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:41:06 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oAUGR1Dw015269; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 16:41:02 GMT Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 832628311291221648; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:40:48 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:40:29 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:40:28 -0800 Message-ID: <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuRcXMvdOg33U6jT5uP9A6KVAKPwgAAHa4A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > (This is particularly messy when used in defcustom values.) > > I don't know what you're referring to. I'll keep the bug > open for now, assuming that the defcustom issue will be > the actual bug. You're right of course about the chars "\n" and a ^J char in a Lisp string. `defcustom' does different things in this regard, depending on the :type (and whether there is a mismatch, but that's something else no doubt). See what the \n representation does, for example, with the file I sent to emacs-devel yesterday, thread "Variable behavior for `mouse-3' second click at same spot". Here's a direct URL to the file. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el Eval the defcustom for `mouse3-region-popup-submenus', then use `M-x customize', and you'll see how messy (how wide) the display is. Independently of this, perhaps Customize should wrap long lines in some way. Dunno. Doesn't seem like it should be displaying lines as 168 chars wide rather than wrapping them. This doc-string with two newline chars gets shown as a single line without any wrapping: 168 chars wide: "Replace the selected rectangle by the contents of a register you name. Note that the rectangle currently selected is first killed. You can restore it by yanking." Much of the reason for adding the doc string to the lambda was to give Customize users more info about these anonymous commands. The way things are, I guess the best thing for a programmer to do is create named commands and forgo anonymous ones within option values. Nothing wrong with that, but I think we should be able to do better wrt Customize display. Especially since most of the time newlines in strings _are_ shown in Customize using newline chars rather than the two chars "\n". Maybe the :type could be refined in this particular defcustom in some way that would cause the Customize display to be as usual (newline chars, no "\n"). Dunno (suggestions welcome). But at least this defcustom is not a case of `mismatch' (mismatch seems always to display a newline char in a string as "\n"). From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.12912265372293 (code B ref 7524); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2010 18:02:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNr0T-0000aw-4p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:02:17 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNr0Q-0000ag-8d; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:02:15 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AiEHAFYd9kxMCqFw/2dsb2JhbACiE4EIcsQXhUcEhF6Ncg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,284,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84248832" Received: from 76-10-161-112.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.161.112]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 01 Dec 2010 13:07:53 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id CB405661BF; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 13:07:52 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:07:52 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:40:28 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) retitle 7524 Customize should wrap long lines and pretty print sexp values severity 7524 wishlist thanks > See what the \n representation does, for example, with the file I sent > to emacs-devel yesterday, thread "Variable behavior for `mouse-3' > second click at same spot". Here's a direct URL to the file. > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el > Eval the defcustom for `mouse3-region-popup-submenus', then use `M-x > customize', and you'll see how messy (how wide) the display is. Since the type you use is (sexp :tag "Command"), you give relatively little information to Custom about what it can look like (not that the type is wrong, actually). And yes, Custom should probably try to wrap lines somehow in such cases (e.g. pretty-print the sexp). During the wrapping, it could convert the \n in strings into actual LF chars. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.12912286037976 (code B ref 7524); Wed, 01 Dec 2010 18:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2010 18:36:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNrXm-00024b-VE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:36:43 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PNrXl-00024M-IQ for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:36:41 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB1IgJ4c002658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:42:20 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB15tNTk024700; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 18:42:17 GMT Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 819464381291228924; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:42:04 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:42:04 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com><9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:42:04 -0800 Message-ID: <835905FE6D8E480C92C15DE85E4266CF@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuRgq3tGM9dre4NTz60wB5Qo/Xc0gAAi40A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > Since the type you use is (sexp :tag "Command"), you give relatively > little information to Custom about what it can look like (not that the > type is wrong, actually). Actually, I also tried this, but it seemed to make no difference: (repeat (choice (cons :tag "Item" (string :tag "Name") (restricted-sexp :tag "Command" :match-alternatives (commandp))) (list :tag "Separator" (const "--")))) And for the default value that causes a `mismatch' in older Emacs versions (20 through 23) for some reason - so I reverted to just `sexp'. (Can you see anything wrong with that type spec? Dunno why older versions give the value a `mismatch'.) > And yes, Custom should probably try to wrap lines somehow in > such cases (e.g. pretty-print the sexp). During the wrapping, > it could convert the \n in strings into actual LF chars. Thanks. I don't know the difference between the buglist wishlist status and the Emacs TODO list. I imagine that the difference is that almost anything that any user requests gets put on the wishlist but only things that Emacs Dev thinks are important get put on the TODO list. But either is OK, I guess. From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129165782127330 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 17:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 17:50:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfCf-00076l-Gq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:50:21 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfCd-00076U-NN for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:50:20 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicIALuy/ExFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMYELcr4LhUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,306,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84672603" Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 12:56:11 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7E0A9661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 12:56:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 1 Dec 2010 08:40:28 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Here's a direct URL to the file. > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el Nitpick: actually, it's not "a direct URL to the file". It's a URL to an html page; very annoying if you ask me since Emacs doesn't display HTML nearly as well as Elisp. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:01:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129165842728258 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:01:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 18:00:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfMR-0007Li-9n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:00:27 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfMN-0007LK-0g for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:00:23 -0500 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB6I6DSk025606 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:06:15 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB6ECdE2021833; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:06:12 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 848581881291658765; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:06:05 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:06:05 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com><9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:06:04 -0800 Message-ID: <19850FCD3BE94E27BE45F9014B41E978@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuVbuAqimJMJ/NvSa6djm3252qbmwAAM8Pw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > Here's a direct URL to the file. > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el > > Nitpick: actually, it's not "a direct URL to the file". It's a URL to > an html page; Call it what you will. It's a URL to the file (direct or not, depending on your view of "the file"): click the URL and you will see the file in your Web browser. Here is a more direct URL to the file: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/mouse3.el Even that you could argue only takes you to a download action for the file. From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129165869728662 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 18:04:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfQm-0007SF-J5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:04:57 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPfQk-0007Rz-TQ for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:04:55 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB6IAjM9006264 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:10:47 GMT Received: from acsmt353.oracle.com (acsmt353.oracle.com [141.146.40.153]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB6FfYvF016799; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:10:44 GMT Received: from abhmt020.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 830207251291659041; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:10:41 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:10:41 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com><9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:10:41 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuVbuAqimJMJ/NvSa6djm3252qbmwAAM8PwAAAmS5A= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > very annoying if you ask me since Emacs doesn't display > HTML nearly as well as Elisp. Poor Emacs. While waiting for Emacs to become a less annoying Web browser, you might want to try a different one? From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129166517911610 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 19:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 19:52:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPh7K-00031D-Tw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:52:59 -0500 Received: from mail-ew0-f41.google.com ([209.85.215.41]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPh7J-000311-G6 for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 14:52:58 -0500 Received: by ewy27 with SMTP id 27so21633435ewy.0 for <7524@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=knIqpZ3fFF3L4HQd7TL2lSZgD86nBLLXByDaIfjBUuA=; b=eCxFi5H4CUDSvJHkxKhEzV91wzzOiktVr8dENNWG0YhIqBCvGwsKS6d/LiyIBbRKfs 1PzOfbc1Y6KorutaZWJTsFAVihBQfUA+FALTAyx1JmCwS689Ou3mGJka45yacNaVjYvV mLaM/n0wSXWseRTtTfIGb+OizxH7WFiIikf78= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=GqXRW7AWvEPq/o2GPQwoaOAAMaxBGOWyACFb5rVIF0JIa45JTLGzWLGMfnHg/lN0/f a8bzrZgyFtHINu6ur6ANHc7eyWhrqieIH/IB31UGcVpz/g/Cj28MeaMbj1ltu2eJm37/ IWv+R92T6H946x9WQk0BgZsYXOz5nsIBnjt8E= Received: by 10.213.26.68 with SMTP id d4mr6251639ebc.71.1291665526175; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 11:58:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.29.8 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:58:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:58:25 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> very annoying if you ask me since Emacs doesn't display >> HTML nearly as well as Elisp. > > Poor Emacs. =C2=A0While waiting for Emacs to become a less annoying Web b= rowser, you > might want to try a different one? Maybe this can help: http://www.20thingsilearned.com//open-source From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129166621815992 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 20:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 20:10:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhO6-00049t-2g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:10:18 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPhO3-00049d-89 for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:10:16 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AicIAIvT/ExFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMIELcr5xhUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,306,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84692227" Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 15:16:07 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 63BB2661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> <19850FCD3BE94E27BE45F9014B41E978@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:16:07 -0500 In-Reply-To: <19850FCD3BE94E27BE45F9014B41E978@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:06:04 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) > Here is a more direct URL to the file: > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/mouse3.el > Even that you could argue only takes you to a download action for the file. No, it's a URL which Emacs accepts fine and it then shows me the contents in the right mode and everything. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Lennart Borgman'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org, 'Stefan Monnier' Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129167115429203 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 21:32:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPifh-0007ay-WB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:32:34 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPifg-0007am-5p for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:32:32 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB6LcNqv022893 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:38:24 GMT Received: from acsmt355.oracle.com (acsmt355.oracle.com [141.146.40.155]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB5NRot5014010; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:38:20 GMT Received: from abhmt012.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 849282771291671480; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:38:00 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:38:00 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:38:00 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuVgAHfL+UFdGEAQMmL0scInAY4EQACfLUA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > Maybe this can help: > http://www.20thingsilearned.com//open-source This is the first thing I see there (in IE 7): "This illustrated book was designed for HTML5-compliant browsers and will not work with your current browser. For the best viewing experience, please download a modern browser, or install the Google Chrome Frame plug-in and try launching this site again." A browser that doesn't handle everything in HTML5 is not "modern"? Hmph! FWIW, in spite of that pretentious warning, the site was just as readable in IE 7 as in Google Chrome. Anyway, I read what was written there, but found it pretty content-less. What's the point? From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Lennart Borgman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129167158429845 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 21:39:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPime-0007lJ-3E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:39:44 -0500 Received: from mail-ey0-f174.google.com ([209.85.215.174]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPimb-0007l7-Ry for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:39:42 -0500 Received: by eye27 with SMTP id 27so6621051eye.19 for <7524@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:mime-version:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hhGpZcVZbj6iPet4pNP80ZThtLqJnSQPDaNlvjAEwKI=; b=o+kehGenXKn++KRVmcv2oNeTD3dSguh7r6WXcG8hWVCPsIj5x/jMvcoYbzqzJAaS8f kwl8vmc9b5Sbq/PtGK/6bOkKIKa0jisKvTkknoCbxjH47SL3y8aUZt/e3VG6xFAKOrW9 9bp5Z+SlewtMq8rqyE04A+W6SlMFTnzNELw5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PVD+1s/yrDzfiF0OYpAAhrJEFGK+4tqeArsxyEXl6bzuw+9p8HDZn8fxVbM0GecTkb xUWePhPMCAo+NVj6AOcena3q7lTqEYEc7zJJqOhQA5Bevz5HnZ/Yu+fNiMro8a4XJTjl iwYwgFgoNIKwMBjKCF3EbA2Y943duVqj0ceCg= Received: by 10.213.33.66 with SMTP id g2mr1633078ebd.84.1291671934348; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.29.8 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:45:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> From: Lennart Borgman Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> Maybe this can help: >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.20thingsilearned.com//open-source > > This is the first thing I see there (in IE 7): > > =C2=A0"This illustrated book was designed for HTML5-compliant browsers > =C2=A0and will not work with your current browser. > =C2=A0For the best viewing experience, please download a modern browser, > =C2=A0or install the Google Chrome Frame plug-in and try launching this s= ite again." > > A browser that doesn't handle everything in HTML5 is not "modern"? =C2=A0= Hmph! Maybe they say that a bit too early... > Anyway, I read what was written there, but found it pretty content-less. = =C2=A0What's > the point? Oh, it is a pretty little thing. And it actually tells how others do to display html. (And maybe Emacs can do that soon too.) From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129167165829964 (code B ref 7524); Mon, 06 Dec 2010 21:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2010 21:40:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPinp-0007nF-Dy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:40:57 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPinn-0007n2-GB for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 16:40:56 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oB6LkjbS008216 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:46:48 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oB6LkiYa008971; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 21:46:44 GMT Received: from abhmt013.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 849304421291671948; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:45:48 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 13:45:48 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com><9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com><19850FCD3BE94E27BE45F9014B41E978@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:45:48 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuVgmySBDTxxT5+S8K2LsBg2pqrpAAC43kg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > > Here is a more direct URL to the file: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/mouse3.el > > Even that you could argue only takes you to a download > > action for the file. > > No, it's a URL which Emacs accepts fine and it then shows me the > contents in the right mode and everything. Emacs Wiki deliberately has an HTML page as the entry point for each Lisp file. That HTML page shows the Lisp code (with coloring no less), and it has a Download link for those who might want to download it. All of that is for user convenience (e.g. preview before perhaps download). I happen to agree with that design, but you need not agree and are welcome to find it annoying. I'd argue that the annoyance really comes from your (Emacs) browser, but you need not agree with that either. From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:37:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.129169301228953 (code B ref 7524); Tue, 07 Dec 2010 03:37:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2010 03:36:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPoMG-0007Ww-12 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:36:52 -0500 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PPoMC-0007Wh-Ew for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:36:49 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqQHANY7/UxFxLmf/2dsb2JhbACiMoEGcr9zhUkEhF+NfQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,308,1288584000"; d="scan'208";a="84721723" Received: from 69-196-185-159.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.185.159]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Dec 2010 22:42:41 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 98FD9661BF; Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:42:41 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> <9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> <19850FCD3BE94E27BE45F9014B41E978@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 22:42:41 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:45:48 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) >> > Here is a more direct URL to the file: >> > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/mouse3.el >> > Even that you could argue only takes you to a download >> > action for the file. >> >> No, it's a URL which Emacs accepts fine and it then shows me the >> contents in the right mode and everything. > Emacs Wiki deliberately has an HTML page as the entry point for each > Lisp file. That HTML page shows the Lisp code (with coloring no > less), and it has a Download link for those who might want to download > it. All of that is for user convenience (e.g. preview before perhaps > download). > I happen to agree with that design, but you need not agree and are > welcome to find it annoying. I fully agree with this web-site design as well. But when you post here a link to source Elisp code, you should expect people to want to look at it inside Emacs rather than inside a browser. So you should send a URL to the actual Elisp file, to to its HTML rendering. And remember, it was just a nitpick. You've blown it way out of proportion. Stefan From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.12931445307320 (code B ref 7524); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Dec 2010 22:48:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVtxp-0001u0-Nr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:48:50 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PVtxn-0001tl-6r for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:48:47 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oBNMtNl4020261 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:55:24 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oBNMTp26006554; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 22:55:22 GMT Received: from abhmt004.oracle.com by acsmt353.oracle.com with ESMTP id 902507201293144820; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:53:40 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.220.75) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:53:40 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com><9F064DA0407E4234B3DA11C0722B97D1@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 14:53:39 -0800 Message-ID: <000B33E7F2484128B3849AD9541163B6@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcuRgq3tGM9dre4NTz60wB5Qo/Xc0gRb/6tQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > And yes, Custom should probably try to wrap lines somehow in > such cases (e.g. pretty-print the sexp). Any chance this pretty-printing will actually get done? The utility goes well beyond `\n' in strings. Just now I created a defcustom whose :type is (repeat (restricted-sexp :tag "Keymap" :match-alternatives (keymapp 'nil))) And you cannot believe how ugly such a value is, not to mention how error-prone editing it would be! Regardless of what one might think of trying to use a keymap value this way, the point is that any non-trivial Lisp sexp needs to be pretty-printed. `restricted-sexp can be a quick-and-dirty substitute for defining the widgets needed to get a new :type construct. But it is rendered pretty unusable without (at least) pretty-printing. There are likely to be plenty of Lisp values for which pretty-printing would help. Any chance you will add this to the Emacs TO-DO list? From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:26:12 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7524: 24.0.50; backquote converts newlines in strings to "\n" References: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <9C4145152E1B4A9890C4A8DA520A51ED@us.oracle.com> Resent-From: Mauro Aranda Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7524 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7524@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams Received: via spool by 7524-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7524.16033695197467 (code B ref 7524); Thu, 22 Oct 2020 12:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 7524) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Oct 2020 12:25:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVZeg-0001wN-Mf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:25:19 -0400 Received: from mail-wr1-f48.google.com ([209.85.221.48]:44741) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kVZec-0001vt-PK for 7524@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:25:15 -0400 Received: by mail-wr1-f48.google.com with SMTP id t9so2106384wrq.11 for <7524@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 05:25:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6MPf/UXDNHfMU1FI6FPTE7GMYdhZVre8V9jGzbJKz0o=; b=Ii0AQcJBHfoguQRbozan5DWcWerQD4TUYSvJiD+yIWA+k604TtOqzfDtEefxTF0B6X dPkH8sdac8lVnBrVfndCJfifaJUopss1A5Lv86ChgmjCEQMl1ray2eMEGy+6rinxH0Dv D6qTZoxHXOKdoeH1gUdmceMiHCnkfPdu7rzu84rJfqexAYMcTN1fpe6R0zrGp6wq8Ym/ LqDT+TFz/2ofArX9dKOaHVteuxxCaaNkEZPfgT0dPSzCHhDddHZlIRiYulm//kAo5vaH YPfDeVAXAbWqzk88b1S7whNVXN96ZTjOOTx6J42M0N9vx+3yFxWJaTftezI44HYR8/46 xw2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6MPf/UXDNHfMU1FI6FPTE7GMYdhZVre8V9jGzbJKz0o=; b=nzVLMVBNVC1Oe8nCYMswyvacko75FrpiEIR30EVotIYQjc4QuFf0WdySzObKlZ6BKo N8SB9I4C9K4wN+WfFmVTxRKJkTfdt1iAlOKdbasX30pkee4VoaG0/cMH/Wn3np+vd6lZ TJ760Qy+KrFpiivtNN6zxhoVv55FQcSfhjrMU1Aqfwf8fJqL2N1rCqzKb3ZpNQPzIE7D hB77BoXBk3C/qjhwNvVDFsbWdM7IejML1eK/4YN4ddApU0KeuyLl3iM9HuQYxvFu0XUa ChgkLF1PuC1WLATNyajoA+8pUJvec7lGartYSdJXQOuP3zUe5oBzqeFVGRBNhPuLXSrS +Qqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532yZJ5ANhNoUaIALZGuQA0Pl1KcZlGVAVDJzVHhhmQKgTx29CR1 GTyX6rawerUtPXz3eQcMSjMrkGlY+fCOxT4LF5EH6fA/79M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxTB+hNHy6jycotthJYYZSRU0FhZR+KFy/mCBx+9gP4lkdns4xjviKTdio8Ls6LB02PFc9Y4lwW9wJf8GiWI6E= X-Received: by 2002:adf:df03:: with SMTP id y3mr2449760wrl.70.1603369508402; Thu, 22 Oct 2020 05:25:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Mauro Aranda Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 09:24:55 -0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000fed42d05b2418d5c" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --000000000000fed42d05b2418d5c Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fed42b05b2418d5a" --000000000000fed42b05b2418d5a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" tags 7524 patch quit "Drew Adams" writes: >> > (This is particularly messy when used in defcustom values.) >> >> I don't know what you're referring to. I'll keep the bug >> open for now, assuming that the defcustom issue will be >> the actual bug. > > You're right of course about the chars "\n" and a ^J char in a Lisp string. > > `defcustom' does different things in this regard, depending on the :type (and > whether there is a mismatch, but that's something else no doubt). > > See what the \n representation does, for example, with the file I sent to > emacs-devel yesterday, thread "Variable behavior for `mouse-3' second click at > same spot". Here's a direct URL to the file. > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el > > Eval the defcustom for `mouse3-region-popup-submenus', then use `M-x customize', > and you'll see how messy (how wide) the display is. > If I understand this bug report correctly, the wishlist item is about pretty printing restricted-sexp values, which makes sense to me. Values of the sexp widget already get pretty-printed, but not the values of the restricted-sexp widget. 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"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> > (This is p= articularly messy when used in defcustom values.)
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>> = I don't know what you're referring to.=C2=A0 I'll keep the bug =
>> open for now, assuming that the defcustom issue will be
>= ;> the actual bug.
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> You're right of course about the = chars "\n" and a ^J char in a Lisp string.
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> `defcu= stom' does different things in this regard, depending on the :type (and=
> whether there is a mismatch, but that's something else no doub= t).
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> See what the \n representation does, for example, with = the file I sent to
> emacs-devel yesterday, thread "Variable beh= avior for `mouse-3' second click at
> same spot".=C2=A0 Here= 's a direct URL to the file.
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> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/mouse3.el
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> Eval the defcustom for `mouse3-region-popup-submenus', the= n use `M-x customize',
> and you'll see how messy (how wide) = the display is.
>

If I understand this bug report correctly, t= he wishlist item is about
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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mauro Aranda writes: > If I understand this bug report correctly, the wishlist item is about > pretty printing restricted-sexp values, which makes sense to me. Values > of the sexp widget already get pretty-printed, but n [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mauro Aranda writes: > If I understand this bug report correctly, the wishlist item is about > pretty printing restricted-sexp values, which makes sense to me. Values > of the sexp widget already get pretty-printed, but not the values of the > restricted-sexp widget. > > I attach a patch to pretty-print restricted sexp values too, by using the > same function that the sexp widget uses. 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