From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.12909629387966 (code B ref -1); Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:49:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2010 16:48:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkQr-00024R-4s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:48:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkQo-00024F-KJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:48:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkW9-0001K5-1I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:54:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.1 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:34313) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkW8-0001K1-Ux for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:54:24 -0500 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39608 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PMkW8-0004NN-2x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:54:24 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkW6-0001Jo-W0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:54:23 -0500 Received: from rcsinet10.oracle.com ([148.87.113.121]:42963) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PMkW6-0001Je-Pg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 11:54:22 -0500 Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com (acsinet15.oracle.com [141.146.126.227]) by rcsinet10.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.2) with ESMTP id oASGsKeU009435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:54:21 GMT Received: from acsmt354.oracle.com (acsmt354.oracle.com [141.146.40.154]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.2/Switch-3.4.1) with ESMTP id oASFpRG0024972 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:54:18 GMT Received: from abhmt001.oracle.com by acsmt354.oracle.com with ESMTP id 810338391290963176; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:52:56 -0800 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.220.140) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:52:56 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:52:46 -0800 Message-ID: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-Index: AcuPHK57piynmbA5S+WThklOXp52+A== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) Why does the question asking whether I want to debug with GDB have `Yes' as the default value if I don't even have GDB installed? That obliges users to pick up the mouse and click `No' instead of just hitting RET. If you try to answer `Yes' you just get into trouble: That provokes a Microsoft error, letting you send lots of interesting info to MS for `GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor'. I.e., `Yes' => Microsoft dialog box: `Send Error Report' or `Don't Send'. In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-11-22 on 3249CTO Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (4.4) --no-opt --cflags -Ic:/imagesupport/include' From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.14617978092236 (code B ref 7507); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 22:56:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avYO1-0000Zz-9r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:56:49 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51747) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avYNy-0000Zr-UQ for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:56:47 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avYNw-0004wG-Em; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:46 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:44 +0200 In-Reply-To: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 28 Nov 2010 08:52:46 -0800") Message-ID: <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > Why does the question asking whether I want to debug with GDB have `Yes' > as the default value if I don't even have GDB installed? That obliges > users to pick up the mouse and click `No' instead of just hitting RET. > If you try to answer `Yes' you just get into trouble: That provokes a > Microsoft error, letting you send lots of interesting info to MS for > `GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor'. I.e., `Yes' > => Microsoft dialog box: `Send Error Report' or `Don't Send'. When does Emacs ask whether you want to debug something with GDB? I can't recall it ever asking me that... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.146180216827578 (code B ref 7507); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 00:09:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50984 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avZWJ-0007Aj-N8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:09:27 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:40721) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avZWI-0007AW-46 for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:09:26 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3S09IUa014287 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:09:19 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3S09IZr001513 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:09:18 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3S09H3e030372; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:09:17 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:09:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > When does Emacs ask whether you want to debug something with GDB? I > can't recall it ever asking me that... When Emacs crashes (if you're lucky), on MS Windows, at least. From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.146182086722309 (code B ref 7507); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 05:21:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51064 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aveNs-0005ni-8h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:21:07 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60109) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aveNo-0005mt-5A for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:21:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aveNf-0001bX-DG for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:20:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aveNf-0001bT-9o; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:20:51 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3507 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aveNe-0005Uo-OZ; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:20:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:20:37 +0300 Message-Id: <83fuu6xqai.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:44 +0200) References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:56:44 +0200 > Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org > > "Drew Adams" writes: > > > Why does the question asking whether I want to debug with GDB have `Yes' > > as the default value if I don't even have GDB installed? That obliges > > users to pick up the mouse and click `No' instead of just hitting RET. > > If you try to answer `Yes' you just get into trouble: That provokes a > > Microsoft error, letting you send lots of interesting info to MS for > > `GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor'. I.e., `Yes' > > => Microsoft dialog box: `Send Error Report' or `Don't Send'. > > When does Emacs ask whether you want to debug something with GDB? I > can't recall it ever asking me that... This is about the Emacs Abort dialog that Emacs displays only on MS-Windows. FWIW, I don't think trying to detect whether GDB is installed when displaying that dialog is a reasonable request. That dialog is displayed when Emacs is already in bad trouble, so embarking on a non-trivial journey trying to find gdb.exe somewhere on the system, which involves issuing quite a few system calls, doesn't sound like a good idea. The standard dialog popped up by Windows in similar situations includes the "Debug" button even if debugging tools are not installed, so I think we don't do anything preposterously unreasonable here. From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.146183631813256 (code B ref 7507); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 09:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 09:38:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviP8-0003Rk-ER for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:38:38 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:33425) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviP6-0003Rb-Su for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 05:38:38 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aviP2-0007lp-Rb; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:38:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuu6xqai.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:38:32 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83fuu6xqai.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2016 08:20:37 +0300") Message-ID: <8737q6hy3r.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > Why does the question asking whether I want to debug with GDB have `Yes' >> > as the default value if I don't even have GDB installed? That obliges >> > users to pick up the mouse and click `No' instead of just hitting RET. >> > If you try to answer `Yes' you just get into trouble: That provokes a >> > Microsoft error, letting you send lots of interesting info to MS for >> > `GNU Emacs: The extensible self-documenting text editor'. I.e., `Yes' >> > => Microsoft dialog box: `Send Error Report' or `Don't Send'. [...] > FWIW, I don't think trying to detect whether GDB is installed when > displaying that dialog is a reasonable request. That dialog is > displayed when Emacs is already in bad trouble, so embarking on a > non-trivial journey trying to find gdb.exe somewhere on the system, > which involves issuing quite a few system calls, doesn't sound like a > good idea. But presumably Emacs has to do the `executable-find' thing to call gdb, anyway? And ending up in a situation where we're offering to send a bug report to Microsoft sounds less than optimal... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.146184197122095 (code B ref 7507); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 11:12:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51322 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjsF-0005kF-L8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:12:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjsA-0005jw-ST for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:12:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avjs2-0007vc-1g for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:12:37 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44161) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avjs1-0007vY-VP; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:12:33 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3702 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1avjs0-0000Lf-DI; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:12:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:12:19 +0300 Message-Id: <83a8kexa0c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737q6hy3r.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:38:32 +0200) References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuu6xqai.fsf@gnu.org> <8737q6hy3r.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, 7507@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:38:32 +0200 > > > FWIW, I don't think trying to detect whether GDB is installed when > > displaying that dialog is a reasonable request. That dialog is > > displayed when Emacs is already in bad trouble, so embarking on a > > non-trivial journey trying to find gdb.exe somewhere on the system, > > which involves issuing quite a few system calls, doesn't sound like a > > good idea. > > But presumably Emacs has to do the `executable-find' thing to call gdb, > anyway? No. The user is instructed (in the dialog text) to attach GDB to the running Emacs process. So it's the user who should know how to invoke GDB, Emacs doesn't. > And ending up in a situation where we're offering to send a bug > report to Microsoft sounds less than optimal... If the user doesn't want to debug Emacs, she should click "No", or type TAB, then RET, and then no report will be sent anywhere. From unknown Sun Aug 10 10:26:53 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#7507: 24.0.50; GDB dialog: default should not be `Yes' if GDB is not installed Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 7507 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 7507@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com Received: via spool by 7507-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B7507.146184216626200 (code B ref 7507); Thu, 28 Apr 2016 11:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 7507) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 11:16:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51343 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvS-0006oA-G5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:16:06 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvN-0006iV-T1 for 7507@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:16:02 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvJ-0001Wf-6E; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:15:59 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <77F0EF3B1EE7429F9E6A298D109B3962@us.oracle.com> <87bn4ur783.fsf@gnus.org> <83fuu6xqai.fsf@gnu.org> <8737q6hy3r.fsf@gnus.org> <83a8kexa0c.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:15:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83a8kexa0c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 28 Apr 2016 14:12:19 +0300") Message-ID: <87oa8unfv8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > No. The user is instructed (in the dialog text) to attach GDB to the > running Emacs process. So it's the user who should know how to invoke > GDB, Emacs doesn't. Aha. Then I agree with you -- there's nothing here to fix. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 28 07:16:26 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Apr 2016 11:16:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51346 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvm-00076q-Ot for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:16:26 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:35753) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvl-00075Y-Jc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 07:16:26 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avjvT-0001Wv-Vr for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:16:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 13:16:07 +0200 Message-Id: <87k2jinfuw.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #7507 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 7507 wontfix close 7507