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From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: "King, Spencer" Subject: Re: [bug#74987] [PATCH 0/2] Some dependencies for julia-setfield In-Reply-To: (Spencer King's message of "Thu, 19 Dec 2024 23:12:05 +0000") References: Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 16:08:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87ikr93ypt.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74987 Cc: 74987@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi, "King, Spencer" skribis: > This patch series begins adding some of the dependencies necessary for > building julia-setfield and running its test cases. There were a > couple of test cases I was having issues with so I decided to just > submit the dependency patches for now and finalize julia-setfield at a > later date. Nice. Applied as well, thanks! It=E2=80=99s good to see the Julia package set grow. I must say though tha= t I wonder about longer-term maintenance. For example, I gave a first stab at upgrading Julia but then ran out of time: . The other issue is that of individual package upgrades. So far it seems to be pretty smooth, but I suspect it won=E2=80=99t last. What=E2=80=99s your take? Ludo=E2=80=99. 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charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: wustl.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: CH3PR02MB9746.namprd02.prod.outlook.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 1b0a1e45-0717-4d49-099a-08dd24635284 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 24 Dec 2024 21:38:36.0883 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 4ccca3b5-71cd-4e6d-974b-4d9beb96c6d6 X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: +KL1M7VyBRMzbzeb2kN5CZwX6HRD+CTZl7z94+Mh2PTGqzxvYRUozexqUMUoLXHwZhuNXOMkT3+rJ2J2jnQlXg== X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CO6PR02MB7779 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74987 Cc: "74987@debbugs.gnu.org" <74987@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Ludo, =0A= =0A= Thank you for being so prompt when it comes to reviewing my patches, I real= ly do appreciate it. I'm happy to help the Julia package set grow. All of m= y Julia contributions so far have been working towards packaging some of th= e larger machine learning packages that I use, which have pretty deep depen= dency trees.=0A= =0A= I agree that longer-term maintenance is a point of concern. Perhaps that wi= ll change if Julia begins to see more widespread adoption. I think one of t= he biggest issues facing Julia packaging is that there currently isn't the = same level of interest as languages like Python. I also know that there hav= e been some issues with packages not building reproducibly due to upstream = issues with the internals of the Julia compiler, but I'm not going to prete= nd I have an in-depth understanding of that issue.=0A= =0A= I have seen your thread about your efforts to package a new version of Juli= a. It looks pretty complex and is definitely a major step up in complexity = from any packages I've written so far. I think this comes back to the issue= of interest, Julia just doesn't have the same level of interest as other l= anguages in scientific computing so it can be challenging to find collabora= tors.=0A= =0A= Like you said, individual package upgrades have gone fine so far. I've done= a few myself without issues. I agree that it probably won't last as the pa= ckage set grows and we end up with more complex dependency trees. However, = I imagine that is a similar issue faced by other package sets in Guix.=0A= =0A= Best,=0A= Spencer= From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Dec 26 06:40:23 2024 Received: (at 74987) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Dec 2024 11:40:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tQmE1-0001Lx-Cg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:40:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46444) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tQmCn-00019k-Fl for 74987@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:40:14 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tQmCf-0006xr-GW; Thu, 26 Dec 2024 06:38:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=eC62EnU7taLdaf/421gNNW76lxQ6eL22dqF0p0TqahY=; b=o1av0xerlrvSOxBDnKxr GObAP+nBK6n8fLFXQXkZ5FvXs2eweoG7oFKXGgDNh+C3VYC961B6NfaeroxqYqBjTVXK2J4BdsbGp e5dDaTu1UCX5Ei8/UggpJQSUkAN+XTVIuxeag6wR3/DHAjDOyGVyw9qIwaGu1EXq/4kg6LEz6/4rz ZbPhMW/03ykXW3pPyV85uBW9MEE2tAa7waU44tiDOc2F7TlEvEmqmu3b+pbOLOC1kfWGkCuLsyrO6 NB6i0gzHCAYTbod5pfX0fiIZ1lovdPSi7J32JB4ya7PbPyGNWLniQgtIGVc7qgUm0kYds/hwsF/0w ZOMriYvtk3n11g==; From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= To: "King, Spencer" Subject: Re: [bug#74987] [PATCH 0/2] Some dependencies for julia-setfield In-Reply-To: (Spencer King's message of "Tue, 24 Dec 2024 21:38:36 +0000") References: <87ikr93ypt.fsf@gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: Sextidi 6 =?utf-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 233 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution=2C?= jour de la Lave X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 12:38:55 +0100 Message-ID: <877c7mwu5s.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74987 Cc: "74987@debbugs.gnu.org" <74987@debbugs.gnu.org>, Nicolas Graves X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Hi Spencer, "King, Spencer" skribis: > I agree that longer-term maintenance is a point of concern. Perhaps > that will change if Julia begins to see more widespread adoption. I > think one of the biggest issues facing Julia packaging is that there > currently isn't the same level of interest as languages like Python. I > also know that there have been some issues with packages not building > reproducibly due to upstream issues with the internals of the Julia > compiler, but I'm not going to pretend I have an in-depth > understanding of that issue. > > I have seen your thread about your efforts to package a new version of > Julia. It looks pretty complex and is definitely a major step up in > complexity from any packages I've written so far. I think this comes > back to the issue of interest, Julia just doesn't have the same level > of interest as other languages in scientific computing so it can be > challenging to find collaborators. > > Like you said, individual package upgrades have gone fine so far. I've > done a few myself without issues. I agree that it probably won't last > as the package set grows and we end up with more complex dependency > trees. However, I imagine that is a similar issue faced by other > package sets in Guix. Fortunately, Julia is less of a nice today than it was a few years back. Hopefully we=E2=80=99ll find more people to help. Regarding long-term maintenance, have you looked at the importer that was proposed a while back? (Cc=E2=80=99ing Nicolas.) https://issues.guix.gnu.org/62202 I think we try and have an importer and updater in place to ease package maintenance. Maybe the =E2=80=98juliahub=E2=80=99 importer (it seemed almo= st ready to me), or maybe something else. It=E2=80=99s been instrumental in maintaining other package sets. Thanks for your feedback, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:10:31 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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