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24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:48:50 -0800

(defun prefix-region (prefix)
  "Insert PREFIX at the beginning of each line between mark and point."
  (interactive "sPrefix string: ")
  (let ((end (region-end)))
    (save-excursion
      (goto-char (region-beginning))
      (beginning-of-line)
      (save-restriction
	(narrow-to-region (point) end)
	(while (not (eobp))
	  (insert prefix)
	  (forward-line 1))))))

(provide 'prefix-region)

What's that about?

Message #10 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Leo <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 02:10:20 +0000

On 2010-11-26 22:48 +0000, Drew Adams wrote:
> (defun prefix-region (prefix)
>   "Insert PREFIX at the beginning of each line between mark and point."
>   (interactive "sPrefix string: ")
>   (let ((end (region-end)))
>     (save-excursion
>       (goto-char (region-beginning))
>       (beginning-of-line)
>       (save-restriction
> 	(narrow-to-region (point) end)
> 	(while (not (eobp))
> 	  (insert prefix)
> 	  (forward-line 1))))))
>
> (provide 'prefix-region)
>
> What's that about?

There seems to be a few of those files. Maybe move them to the online
packages.

Leo

Message #13 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Leo'" <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:18:58 -0800

> There seems to be a few of those files. Maybe move them to the online
> packages.

No, this was my bad.
This is not a (distributed) Emacs library.

Message #16 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:39:35 -0500

> (defun prefix-region (prefix)
[...]
> What's that about?

My words exactly: what's that about?
I can't find this code in Emacs, so I wonder what your bug report
is about.  Are you suggesting we include this command in Emacs (I can't
see why that would be useful since the rectangle-insert function works
about as well for that).


        Stefan

Message #19 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Stefan Monnier'" <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: RE: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:00:38 -0800

> I can't find this code in Emacs, so I wonder what your bug report
> is about.  Are you suggesting we include this command in 
> Emacs (I can't see why that would be useful since the
> rectangle-insert function works about as well for that).

You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)

I mistakenly created this bug report and within 6 minutes I had closed it.

Message #22 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 07:50:33 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> (defun prefix-region (prefix)
> [...]
>> What's that about?
>
> My words exactly: what's that about?
> I can't find this code in Emacs, so I wonder what your bug report
> is about.  Are you suggesting we include this command in Emacs (I can't
> see why that would be useful since the rectangle-insert function works
> about as well for that).
BTW it seem emacs doesn't have the contrary, i.e insert at end of rectangle,
what is sometime useful:

> My words exactly: what's that about?                                   >>>HERE
> I can't find this code in Emacs, so I wonder what your bug report      >>>HERE
> is about.  Are you suggesting we include this command in Emacs (I can't>>>HERE
> see why that would be useful since the rectangle-insert function works >>>HERE
> about as well for that).                                               >>>HERE

I use here C-x r <right>
I have code if interested, if not ignore message.

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Message #25 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 10:09:10 +0200

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:00:38 -0800
> Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)

It's unfair to post such comments.

The time it takes to respond to a bug report depends on any number of
factors, including (but not limited to) the maintainer's understanding
of the Emacs area where the bug happens, the time it takes to
reproduce the problem, the amount of free time (holidays etc.), you
name it.  In this case, I'm guessing that it took about a few seconds
to find out that there's no such code anywhere in Emacs.

Message #28 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:20:54 -0500

>> You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)
> It's unfair to post such comments.

Well, when compared to some of my backlog where I still have posts more
than 2 years old, it's probably not that unfair.

> The time it takes to respond to a bug report depends on any number of
> factors, including (but not limited to) the maintainer's understanding
> of the Emacs area where the bug happens, the time it takes to
> reproduce the problem, the amount of free time (holidays etc.), you
> name it.  In this case, I'm guessing that it took about a few seconds
> to find out that there's no such code anywhere in Emacs.

Indeed, it was an easy one.


        Stefan

Message #31 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 17:35:08 +0200

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
> Cc: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>, 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 09:20:54 -0500
> 
> >> You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)
> > It's unfair to post such comments.
> 
> Well, when compared to some of my backlog where I still have posts more
> than 2 years old, it's probably not that unfair.

It's unfair to assume that you handle quickly bugs that are
unimportant, but leave alone the important ones.

Message #34 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: "'Eli Zaretskii'" <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: RE: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 08:11:01 -0800

> > You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)
> 
> It's unfair to post such comments.

You are silly to jump on such a comment (with a kidding smily yet!) as if it
were a nasty complaint or criticism.  For the record, I do not consider Stefan
to act quickly only on bug reports that are unimportant.

> The time it takes to respond to a bug report depends on any number of
> factors, including (but not limited to) the maintainer's understanding
> of the Emacs area where the bug happens, the time it takes to
> reproduce the problem, the amount of free time (holidays etc.), you
> name it.  In this case, I'm guessing that it took about a few seconds
> to find out that there's no such code anywhere in Emacs.

And I, for my part, would have closed the mistaken report sooner than within 6
minutes, if I had had a bug number to close.

As soon as I posted the bug report I realized my mistake, but I had to wait
until the bug showed up at http://debbugs.gnu.org/ to get the number. I
specifically went to that site instead of waiting for the confirmation mail with
the bug number (which takes even longer), in order to shorten the time before
closing.  IOW, I closed the bug as quickly as I knew how.

Message #37 received at 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> IRO.UMontreal.CA>
To: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: 'Eli Zaretskii' <eliz <at> gnu.org>, 7494 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7494: 24.0.50; Why is `prefix-region' in a library by itself?
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 13:30:21 -0500

Well, thank you all, Drew and Eli, for this fun discussion.
Are those little mishaps entertaining or what?


        Stefan


>>>>> "Drew" == Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com> writes:

>> > You are certainly very quick when it doesn't count. ;-)
>> 
>> It's unfair to post such comments.

> You are silly to jump on such a comment (with a kidding smily yet!) as if it
> were a nasty complaint or criticism.  For the record, I do not consider Stefan
> to act quickly only on bug reports that are unimportant.

>> The time it takes to respond to a bug report depends on any number of
>> factors, including (but not limited to) the maintainer's understanding
>> of the Emacs area where the bug happens, the time it takes to
>> reproduce the problem, the amount of free time (holidays etc.), you
>> name it.  In this case, I'm guessing that it took about a few seconds
>> to find out that there's no such code anywhere in Emacs.

> And I, for my part, would have closed the mistaken report sooner than within 6
> minutes, if I had had a bug number to close.

> As soon as I posted the bug report I realized my mistake, but I had to wait
> until the bug showed up at http://debbugs.gnu.org/ to get the number. I
> specifically went to that site instead of waiting for the confirmation mail with
> the bug number (which takes even longer), in order to shorten the time before
> closing.  IOW, I closed the bug as quickly as I knew how.

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