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30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot be used for non-file buffers

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Message #41 received at 74879 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann <at> gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Daniel Mendler <mail <at> daniel-mendler.de>, 74879 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74879: 30.0.92; trusted-content-p and trusted-files cannot
 be used for non-file buffers 
Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2024 15:55:10 +0100

Stefan Monnier <monnier <at> iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Thank you for the recent addition of `trusted-content-p'. Is there a
>> possibility to use `trusted-content-p' in buffers which are not backed
>> by a file? I use Flymake in *scratch* or similar buffers and it seems
>> that this won't continue to work given that `trusted-content-p' needs a
>> `buffer-file-truename'.
>
> Good question.
> We don't really have a good answer yet, AFAIK, in large part because we
> don't have enough experience with it.
> Off the top of my head, here are some elements relevant to this
> discussion, in random order:
>
> - The current setup is a kind of "minimal" change for Emacs-30 because
>   it's late in the pretest, so as much as possible we should separate
>   the discussion into what's a simple enough solution for Emacs-30 and
>   what we should use in the longer term.
>
> - You should be able to get fully-featured Flymake in *scratch*
>   with (setq-local trusted-files :all).
>   Maybe we should do that when we setup *scratch*?
>   Which other non-file buffers would need that?  The minibuffer?
>
> - Trust sucks, so we really should work on better solutions where we
>   don't need to rely on trust, such as running code in `bwrap` or other
>   kinds of sandboxes.
>
> - I think we do want some kind of hook, with which we can have (for
>   instance) `emacs-lisp-mode` tell Emacs to trust the user init file,
>   the early-init file, the custom-file, and all the files in
>   `load-path`.
>
> - There is overlap with `safe-local-variable-directories`,
>   `enable-local-variables` and it would be nice to consolidate (which
>   can require delicate timing if we want the major mode to inform which
>   content to trust).
>

Random thought:

- What if a user pastes text from a untrusted source to a trusted buffer?

- Is taint checking relevant in this context?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taint_checking

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