From unknown Sun Aug 10 16:51:21 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#74535 <74535@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#74535 <74535@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events Reply-To: bug#74535 <74535@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 23:51:21 +0000 retitle 74535 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events reassign 74535 emacs submitter 74535 Mike Kupfer severity 74535 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 14:13:22 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2024 19:13:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFeWP-0007fA-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:13:22 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:57882) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFeWN-0007f1-2z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:13:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tFeWM-00088M-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:13:18 -0500 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tFeWJ-0005k1-CS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:13:18 -0500 Received: from alto.camomileplus.org (135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 4APJD1Oj068103 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:13:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kupfer@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged) claimed to be alto.camomileplus.org From: Mike Kupfer To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.92 X-Debbugs-Cc: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <22276.1732561980.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:13:00 -0800 Message-ID: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=198.144.192.42; envelope-from=kupfer@rawbw.com; helo=shell1.rawbw.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I've been getting occasional Emacs hangs, under both Xfce and MATE. I haven't seen the problem (so far) with i3. Emacs seems to handle mouse events okay, e.g., it looks like point is moving in response to a mouse click. And I can create new frames using emacsclient. But keyboard events don't seem to be processed--there's no response to C-g, M-x, C-p, C-n, simple text, F10. I tried troubleshooting the problem using strace (simple "strace -p "), but there's so much output I've been unable to make sense of it. I don't have a reliable recipe for reproducing the problem. It *might* be related to closing a frame. I did not see this problem with 30.0.91. My current plan for troubleshooting (the next time it happens) is to attach gdb, dump the last 10 items in recent_keys (using the instructions in etc/DEBUG), resume the process, type a few keys, go back into gdb, and see if recent_keys and recent_keys_index have changed. Is there a better approach? thanks, mike (gdb) bt #0 pselect64_syscall (sigmask=3D, timeout=3D, exceptfds=3D0x0= , writefds=3D0x7ffcfde93cb0, readfds=3D0x7ffcfde93c30, nfds=3D18) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pselect.c:34 #1 __pselect (nfds=3D18, readfds=3D0x7ffcfde93c30, writefds=3D0x7ffcfde93cb0, excep= tfds=3D0x0, timeout=3D, sigmask=3D) at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pselect.c:56 #2 0x000055bb705d9dee in really_call_select (arg=3D0x7ffcfde93b40) at thread.c:624 #3 0x000055bb705da510 in flush_stack_call_func (arg=3D0x7ffcfde93b40, func=3D0x55bb705d9d90 ) at /home/kupfer/src/emacs-30.0.92/src/lisp.h:4509 #4 thread_select (func=3D, max_fds=3Dmax_fds@entry=3D18, rfds=3Drfds@ent= ry=3D0x7ffcfde93c30, wfds=3Dwfds@entry=3D0x7ffcfde93cb0, efds=3Defds@entry= =3D0x0, timeout=3Dtimeout@entry=3D0x7ffcfde94270, sigmask=3D) at thread.c:656 #5 0x000055bb70601b4d in xg_select (fds_lim=3D18, rfds=3Drfds@entry=3D0x7ffcfde943a0, wfds=3D0x7ffcfde944= 20, efds=3D0x0, timeout=3D, sigmask=3D0x0) at xgselect.c:18= 4 #6 0x000055bb705b6bd7 in wait_reading_process_output (time_limit=3Dtime_limit@entry=3D30, nsecs=3Dnsecs@entry=3D0, read_kbd= =3Dread_kbd@entry=3D-1, do_display=3Ddo_display@entry=3Dtrue, wait_for_cel= l=3Dwait_for_cell@entry=3DXIL(0)--Type for more, q to quit, c to con= tinue without paging-- , wait_proc=3Dwait_proc@entry=3D0x0, just_wait_proc=3D0) at process.c:5747 #7 0x000055bb703d3810 in sit_for (timeout=3Dtimeout@entry=3Dmake_fixnum(30), reading=3Dreading@entry=3D= true, display_option=3Ddisplay_option@entry=3D1) at dispnew.c:6335 #8 0x000055bb704e66bc in read_char (commandflag=3D1, map=3Dmap@entry=3DXIL(0x55bb73d90b73), prev_event=3D= XIL(0), used_mouse_menu=3Dused_mouse_menu@entry=3D0x7ffcfde94c9b, end_time= =3Dend_time@entry=3D0x0) at /home/kupfer/src/emacs-30.0.92/src/lisp.h:746 #9 0x000055bb704e6e8f in read_key_sequence (keybuf=3Dkeybuf@entry=3D0x7ffcfde94de0, prompt=3Dprompt@entry=3DXIL(0= ), dont_downcase_last=3Ddont_downcase_last@entry=3Dfalse, can_return_switc= h_frame=3Dcan_return_switch_frame@entry=3Dtrue, fix_current_buffer=3Dfix_c= urrent_buffer@entry=3Dtrue, prevent_redisplay=3Dprevent_redisplay@entry=3D= false, disable_text_conversion_p=3Dfalse) at keyboard.c:10743 #10 0x000055bb704e8e94 in command_loop_1 () at keyboard.c:1429 #11 0x000055bb7055ffc7 in internal_condition_case (bfun=3Dbfun@entry=3D0x55bb704e8ce0 , handlers=3Dhandl= ers@entry=3DXIL(0x90), hfun=3Dhfun@entry=3D0x55bb704dca90 ) at = eval.c:1613 #12 0x000055bb704d4f66 in command_loop_2 (handlers=3Dhandlers@entry=3DXIL(= 0x90)) at keyboard.c:1168 #13 0x000055bb7055ff21 in internal_catch (tag=3Dtag@entry=3DXIL(0x11d30), func=3Dfunc@entry=3D0x55bb704d4f40 , arg=3Darg@entry=3DXIL(0x90)) at eval.c:1292 --Type for more, q to quit, c to continue without paging--c #14 0x000055bb704d4f01 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1146 #15 0x000055bb704dc653 in recursive_edit_1 () at keyboard.c:754 #16 0x000055bb704dc9c0 in Frecursive_edit () at keyboard.c:837 #17 0x000055bb703c88c3 in main (argc=3D1, argv=3D0x7ffcfde95268) at emacs.= c:2635 (gdb) xbacktrace (gdb) In GNU Emacs 30.0.92 (build 1, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, cairo version 1.16.0, Xaw scroll bars) of 2024-10-28 built on alto Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) Configured using: 'configure --prefix=3D/usr/local --with-native-compilation=3Dno' Configured features: CAIRO FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG LIBSELINUX LIBXML2 MODULES NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PNG SECCOMP SOUND THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS WEBP X11 XDBE XIM XPM LUCID ZLIB Important settings: value of $LC_TIME: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=3Dibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: delete-selection-mode: t display-time-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t eldoc-mode: t show-paren-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t minibuffer-regexp-mode: t indent-tabs-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 21:27:34 +0200 Message-Id: <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mike Kupfer In-Reply-To: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> (message from Mike Kupfer on Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:13:00 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Mike Kupfer > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 11:13:00 -0800 > > I've been getting occasional Emacs hangs, under both Xfce and MATE. I > haven't seen the problem (so far) with i3. Emacs seems to handle mouse > events okay, e.g., it looks like point is moving in response to a mouse > click. And I can create new frames using emacsclient. But keyboard > events don't seem to be processed--there's no response to C-g, M-x, > C-p, C-n, simple text, F10. > > I tried troubleshooting the problem using strace (simple "strace -p > "), but there's so much output I've been unable to make sense > of it. > > I don't have a reliable recipe for reproducing the problem. It *might* > be related to closing a frame. > > I did not see this problem with 30.0.91. > > My current plan for troubleshooting (the next time it happens) is to > attach gdb, dump the last 10 items in recent_keys (using the > instructions in etc/DEBUG), resume the process, type a few keys, go back > into gdb, and see if recent_keys and recent_keys_index have changed. Is > there a better approach? Bisecting is better. Since you didn't have this problem with the previous pretest (but please verify that first: it could be that the problem started happening because of an unrelated change to your system), you need to bisect between that and the last pretest, which shouldn't be a lot of revisions. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Nov 25 16:59:58 2024 Received: (at 74535) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Nov 2024 21:59:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42106 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFh7d-0007GB-S7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:59:58 -0500 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:52866 ident=root) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFh7b-0007Fy-RW for 74535@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Nov 2024 16:59:56 -0500 Received: from alto.camomileplus.org (135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 4APLxnqB006278 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kupfer@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged) claimed to be alto.camomileplus.org From: Mike Kupfer To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events In-reply-to: <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> Comments: In-reply-to Eli Zaretskii message dated "Mon, 25 Nov 2024 21:27:34 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.92 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <31513.1732571988.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:48 -0800 Message-ID: <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Bisecting is better. Since you didn't have this problem with the > previous pretest (but please verify that first: it could be that the > problem started happening because of an unrelated change to your > system), you need to bisect between that and the last pretest, which > shouldn't be a lot of revisions. Okay, I'll revert to 30.0.91 and see if the problem is still there. thanks, mike From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 07:26:01 2024 Received: (at 74535) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2024 12:26:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45796 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tJtsn-0001xm-6m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:26:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tJtsl-0001xX-IP for 74535@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:26:00 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJtsg-0001oH-5W; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 07:25:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BsF3iCjOxpU55x/27ITFTw6hn5Fv2AX9rBeJihGxbK0=; b=J780rqfolpPD IZjG4HpvAMhiwEZdJ+GeUdK3shGJCr4UcTP6oLbqCstS19cvDiIGuxCL22hpZIBSPJLBMRGdd3o9W +FtV1AMw+R3ntDBHhtesnvQiUNKKT5/PsTrb8LZyqYs5d4X74iHMgxR1CnVQ8n2+eZXo6aab2E1up BA+f8WBtFxo3tqQOGWRGz6wJn6H2Z0Ur4cfj3ibhJDLw5QMcQi6Ev6sQqsOW/I4gyH5Up9Fhw/peE kzHW953pSv7t0gWSRAc+vqO4i+vwcVk6VKa+oEgcp0A1YJ6lDKdCFHPRpLohHaf64fCgCMwkUhkPo J4IXIW3+rIHFL5ONkfth5Q==; Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:25:51 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mike Kupfer In-Reply-To: <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> (message from Mike Kupfer on Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:48 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Mike Kupfer > cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org > Comments: In-reply-to Eli Zaretskii > message dated "Mon, 25 Nov 2024 21:27:34 +0200." > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:48 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > Bisecting is better. Since you didn't have this problem with the > > previous pretest (but please verify that first: it could be that the > > problem started happening because of an unrelated change to your > > system), you need to bisect between that and the last pretest, which > > shouldn't be a lot of revisions. > > Okay, I'll revert to 30.0.91 and see if the problem is still there. Mike, did you make any progress since then? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Dec 07 21:23:58 2024 Received: (at 74535) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2024 02:23:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49129 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tK6xh-0001yd-Tx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:23:58 -0500 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:58830 ident=root) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tK6xe-0001yT-VK for 74535@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Dec 2024 21:23:55 -0500 Received: from alto.camomileplus.org (135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 4B82NmaU074703 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 7 Dec 2024 18:23:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kupfer@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged) claimed to be alto.camomileplus.org From: Mike Kupfer To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events In-reply-to: <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> Comments: In-reply-to Eli Zaretskii message dated "Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:25:51 +0200." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.91 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <16137.1733624628.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:23:48 -0800 Message-ID: <16138.1733624628@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Mike Kupfer > > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:48 -0800 > > > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > Okay, I'll revert to 30.0.91 and see if the problem is still there. > > Mike, did you make any progress since then? Well, I've been running 30.0.91 since Nov 25, and I haven't seen the hang during that time. According to my notes, it was 4 weeks between the time I installed 30.0.92 and when I got the hang on MATE. (Sorry, I should have mentioned that earlier.) So I'm not sure how long to let a given build run before declaring it "good". mike From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Dec 08 01:12:07 2024 Received: (at 74535) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2024 06:12:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49396 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tKAWV-00053J-HB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 01:12:07 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tKAWU-00052o-2F for 74535@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 01:12:06 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tKAWO-0001Gt-N0; Sun, 08 Dec 2024 01:12:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=QEVpu+eBTsak2YusXNMsGTkJyFOr+1rqmtBlYofblbY=; b=T504srkSqqB1 gFdnhc5a9sKiyE/TX6BD5i1aYIyE3VYhZ13BKRiZLomdhSuLUQqDU2SugXtlIZ7QvSDn2efWLRFqP AobwWTCIfl3oBVTBTe0FMCQBkRDfsYuDB1QsH5HUF+E+pIdzNVRIHDmF36m44qemhmp/RFuKyQmYr 0irM8I2UvroeiELg8X52oPh41joskkBdymOpF9EveekhKlsK02f0ub36fv2RLno9m6CYX/4O+6lhH u6I2j2kE2mDf3qDuyy+rhKfBDW0GSNvOHs1L8baXBUxatQdXrSaV0NNsG0Al4c2KuNpiETo1eYBIs sZTJDNnSkbX4RQVjhRtRSA==; Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2024 08:11:59 +0200 Message-Id: <86a5d6hff4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mike Kupfer In-Reply-To: <16138.1733624628@alto.camomileplus.org> (message from Mike Kupfer on Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:23:48 -0800) Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> <16138.1733624628@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Mike Kupfer > cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org > Comments: In-reply-to Eli Zaretskii > message dated "Sat, 07 Dec 2024 14:25:51 +0200." > Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 18:23:48 -0800 > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > From: Mike Kupfer > > > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 13:59:48 -0800 > > > > > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > > Okay, I'll revert to 30.0.91 and see if the problem is still there. > > > > Mike, did you make any progress since then? > > Well, I've been running 30.0.91 since Nov 25, and I haven't seen the > hang during that time. > > According to my notes, it was 4 weeks between the time I installed > 30.0.92 and when I got the hang on MATE. (Sorry, I should have > mentioned that earlier.) So I'm not sure how long to let a given build > run before declaring it "good". So I guess we need to wait a few more weeks before we are sure. Thanks. 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(Sorry, I should have >> mentioned that earlier.) So I'm not sure how long to let a given build >> run before declaring it "good". > > So I guess we need to wait a few more weeks before we are sure. > > Thanks. That was over 3 weeks ago. Do we feel more confident now? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 01 21:28:56 2025 Received: (at 74535) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 02:28:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41501 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTAxD-0003gc-0l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 21:28:55 -0500 Received: from shell1.rawbw.com ([198.144.192.42]:16425 ident=root) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTAxA-0003gU-UD for 74535@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 21:28:53 -0500 Received: from alto.camomileplus.org (135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by shell1.rawbw.com (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 5022Sk3f071112 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jan 2025 18:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kupfer@rawbw.com) X-Authentication-Warning: shell1.rawbw.com: Host 135-180-174-211.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [135.180.174.211] (may be forged) claimed to be alto.camomileplus.org From: Mike Kupfer To: Stefan Kangas Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events In-reply-to: References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> <16138.1733624628@alto.camomileplus.org> <86a5d6hff4.fsf@gnu.org> Comments: In-reply-to Stefan Kangas message dated "Wed, 01 Jan 2025 19:58:59 -0600." X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.8-RC2; Emacs 30.0.92 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <46141.1735784926.1@alto.camomileplus.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2025 18:28:46 -0800 Message-ID: <46142.1735784926@alto.camomileplus.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535 Cc: 74535@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stefan Kangas wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > So I guess we need to wait a few more weeks before we are sure. > > > > Thanks. > > That was over 3 weeks ago. Do we feel more confident now? I haven't seen the hang again. I went back to 30.0.92 on Dec 21, after hacking up a script that uses emacsclient to invoke view-lossage. (Rather than bisecting by changes to the code, at 4 weeks per iteration, I thought it might be more effective to try a bisection strategy based on the flow of data through Emacs. Depending on what view-lossage tells me--assuming I ever see the hang again--, I can add hacky logging code to my builds in whatever place seems appropriate. FWIW, prior to going back to 30.0.92, I diffed the changes from 30.0.91 to 30.0.92 and nothing seemed plausible as a possible cause.) At this point, I'm fine with calling the bug very rare and moving on. If it happens again, I'll see what information I can get and update the bug report. mike From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 01 22:13:10 2025 Received: (at 74535-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 03:13:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41628 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTBe1-0005qR-Ru for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 22:13:10 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x52e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52e]:44409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTBdz-0005qH-6K for 74535-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 22:13:08 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-x52e.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d3bdccba49so19844595a12.1 for <74535-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 19:13:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735787585; x=1736392385; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=UUoaLBiiN5Fzaf1PHxfCF1E4KQb6GO0KTA1EMqpvcOY=; b=YRvAICzfL16t3pyHthft5iTl5h13QMfXeRSZxUp1eimRi7afVLrn4X0Fv8g4OuG4sd TNbt+TsYGOj6EtPJiUlop/vtPW4NThDpPWHiT8xMdxM7z7p4gUMd793tRWlWd25KKa+9 QDDi3/9IuuPQ/lpFgxjmi+bptfqZIqUEcbixbgp4/JrWGb55qbRS9PnkAFnt2mpb8njj CApyizSbEb2pVGgwgZTXxOh9UAk87O0Xttuw0k3mdcuRuMzuskMiuTnLw6403tKMKH2+ ccjjSUN5FTSicyOI4LQXU+2i8D47V9be0+pgbVB8En5RpBowwrQIdr/mp5Ox9o39Hp3E AhUw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735787585; x=1736392385; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=UUoaLBiiN5Fzaf1PHxfCF1E4KQb6GO0KTA1EMqpvcOY=; b=na1tRNsZf07DuSN7UhJp4595QL+XIjqc7e0G9FfhDvrnDpW6mqc9rmJPj5Ptd69ElA 0COAduPStOp5foeKD+49VdG/MvSuw0twgSPvDI/6a12cLsckcq3MdTirlLkwRqQyG2e1 /yDNq+gXpNaQZk9OmOefxo2kKy0+tF815+pj+oP7d0G77xyxZtn+vE4AJKpKcn41VHCe xYVy2xC5KL9SueDnohVXaEjZgYT0h56+rsIaXT1EYb58VkjJrJMNgitEzy9yGuBgHVeY MlcPqF5uc90qCVSGGyTqodW8ExHpVPdhCqSEDwEYZes1QA8QwbI8NESUrPJbfmI0XnDk KH3A== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVDNt5VDFyMNwfOOMlRRXZg3znLKI+ZXfTqop6uavuQGCb7mA+y0du21OljrAeM5Vd5Wt/jT53UXmHn@debbugs.gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyEOzzbaYMHZTH/IRHlLr5ZBzMVIS8V6dETeElUQRHxkjSjjiIp Agewgt9EuzAwEAPXUgDzgo2ZUqE0/2jmGR7Q/OFF8RMsC0tfW2MUhYWJVZvmSx00sODx5Uou4x0 ZyzRFVE2nLBvN8BTV5wFNtXJ5p9sY1wRMJyk= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsG2lAsIDK1+x54tsa0pfo7Hm04hib65hClTo9E9tukpJn84Liwvuu+b4QpDwc Il8f5T09vEsAWQNkJs50VYloD1eKfTwFKEdP44BJo X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE56bYDG79ijBegJJYtPm1hmThj0UiCRspiRowTyDB+XnXtVMQnKZ7QhLPvVcOsjI9nsZFsG/ofiJqpMkYNKnk= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:2547:b0:5d3:cd85:36c6 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d81de165bamr44911339a12.24.1735787585205; Wed, 01 Jan 2025 19:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:13:04 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <46142.1735784926@alto.camomileplus.org> References: <22277.1732561980@alto.camomileplus.org> <8634jfi061.fsf@gnu.org> <31514.1732571988@alto.camomileplus.org> <86wmgbiss0.fsf@gnu.org> <16138.1733624628@alto.camomileplus.org> <86a5d6hff4.fsf@gnu.org> <46142.1735784926@alto.camomileplus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 21:13:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#74535: 30.0.92; partial hang, esp. keyboard events To: Mike Kupfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74535-done Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 74535-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mike Kupfer writes: > Stefan Kangas wrote: > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > So I guess we need to wait a few more weeks before we are sure. >> > >> > Thanks. >> >> That was over 3 weeks ago. Do we feel more confident now? > > I haven't seen the hang again. I went back to 30.0.92 on Dec 21, after > hacking up a script that uses emacsclient to invoke view-lossage. > (Rather than bisecting by changes to the code, at 4 weeks per iteration, > I thought it might be more effective to try a bisection strategy based > on the flow of data through Emacs. Depending on what view-lossage tells > me--assuming I ever see the hang again--, I can add hacky logging code > to my builds in whatever place seems appropriate. FWIW, prior to going > back to 30.0.92, I diffed the changes from 30.0.91 to 30.0.92 and > nothing seemed plausible as a possible cause.) > > At this point, I'm fine with calling the bug very rare and moving on. > If it happens again, I'll see what information I can get and update the > bug report. Thanks for reporting back. I'm therefore closing this bug report. Please report back if you see the hang again. 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