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[PATCH 00/73] Moving Guix to libglvnd

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Message #257 received at 74522 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Maxim Cournoyer <maxim.cournoyer <at> gmail.com>
To: John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com>
Cc: 74522 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Jonathan Brielmaier <jonathan.brielmaier <at> web.de>,
 André Batista <nandre <at> riseup.net>,
 Mark H Weaver <mhw <at> netris.org>,
 Clément Lassieur <clement <at> lassieur.org>,
 Andreas Enge <andreas <at> enge.fr>, The Man <squishypinkelephant <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [bug#74522] [PATCH 21/73] move libgl provider from mesa to
 libglvnd+mesa
Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 14:18:03 +0900

Hello,

John Kehayias <john.kehayias <at> protonmail.com> writes:

[...]

> Using libglvnd has come up a few times in the past, and unfortunately I
> don't have a way to test what it may be most helpful for (on foreign
> distros? or multi-gpu setups?).
>
> I had to refresh myself on this long patch series, so my apologies if I
> missed something, but this looks to be a lot of unnecessary work, no?
> The "libgl" package and all the dependent input changes is essentially
> the same as propagating libglvnd from mesa? (I'm not sure about the
> build changes in there though, didn't look, but I have built mesa with
> libglvnd before just fine.)
>
> In any event, I think the approach discussed way back in
> <https://issues.guix.gnu.org/49339#8> makes the most sense to me and
> seems like not as much work:
>
> 1. Add libglvnd to Mesa, that enables libglvnd support automatically
>
> 2. Propagate libglvnd from Mesa, assuming that fixes many packages;
> seems like it would be okay as libglvnd isn't something a user would
> install on its own
>
> 3. Fix any packages searching their input's mesa for libraries to search
> libglvnd, as needed. From the old discussion this seemed to be a
> manageable (small) number of packages with a straightforward fix.

That would be a good way to minimize the code change, but in my opinion
is a bit less clean w.r.t. what libglvnd aims to be: an
abstraction/indirection of the libGL.so implementation.  So if we want
to truly move to the modern world of where packages get purely linked to
libglvnd, which in turns dispatches to either mesa or some other
implementation (configurable at the system level, IIRC), it seems it'd
be more Guixy to have only libglvnd exposed to builds instead of both
libglvnd and mesa.

So I think the original patches look fine, but given the mechanical
changes that should (mostly?) be doable with a sed substitution, I'd
suggestion doing that in single commit and mentioning which command was
used in place of the GNU ChangeLog (I had suggested that earlier in
thread in my reply to patch 20/73).

Would 'The Man' or someone like to tackle that?

You could test this sed command a new branch, and after the automated
conversion, diffing the new branch against the old one should give no
difference.

-- 
Thanks,
Maxim

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