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23.2; weird customization behavior

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From: martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>
To: David Abrahams <dave <at> boostpro.com>
Cc: 7445 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7445: 23.2; weird customization behavior
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:18:21 +0100

> If I do `M-x customize-group tramp' (even after starting with -Q), I see:
>
>   tramp-default-method-alist: Hide Value '(("\\`localhost\\'" "\\`root\\'" "su"))
>      State: CHANGED outside Customize; operating on it here may be unreliable. (mismatch)
>
> Several things are wrong here:
>
> * I see the regular variable name instead of capitalized words space
>   separated
>
> * The structure of the variable doesn't seem to be known to customize
>   -- I don't get a nice editor

These are normal.  When something goes wrong, options show up this way
because the customization interface doesn't see a nice way to format and
edit them reliably.

> * It *wasn't* changed, at least not by me, outside of Customize
>
> I managed, once, in an emacs started without -Q, to get
>
>   `M-x customize-variable tramp-default-method-alist'
>
> To show me the structure of the variable, but I can't reproduce this.
> It still tells me falsely that it is "CHANGED outside Customize;
> operating on it here may be unreliable."

Call `customize-rogue' for a list of options where customizing fails the
same way with emacs -Q.  It's a nasty habit of programmers to ignore the
customization interface.

martin

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