From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:16:16 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#74409 <74409@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#74409 <74409@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value Reply-To: bug#74409 <74409@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 06:16:16 +0000 retitle 74409 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist als= o shows unformatted variable value reassign 74409 emacs submitter 74409 Roland Winkler severity 74409 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 17 17:44:28 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2024 22:44:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59017 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCo0K-0002xt-5W for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:44:28 -0500 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:53948) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCo0F-0002xj-PD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:44:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCny9-00069X-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:42:13 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCny8-0008WO-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:42:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:in-reply-to: references; bh=9P3rEwPvMCv/hBZzXVn2waWScWo9nF7TQke47WKCTcU=; b=jf4c+F7+yhvjDJ WSNLS12E3eO8mDi5W8Cx7ZdlZCUz1I0gfypDjZYgADWCF4tEbkijh/xpmMtxXJRlsqk59eD3NYRlk fT5FUnj6qSoFsVT4rImH6tekf4B7xtzuSqV83yMqlcB1roEA1mIv4+ry/C8BUS7EGWWV8Zdd6I3my a+fIzPb9VRXMvSPhJLs6eDMBr7VcTqvwWHovv0zMbKTXr/vRHpB1QPLJWcOSuMtdta+bfoh4aoBo9 BPJsiD9rWnhkRj198UlAOY4mzSW+0S8BE/KVel4b1uo1BaVdGgepfYva9akg5R4VXPsr96Y36nSbW X1tJdDqzH3nRZzzFYykA==; From: Roland Winkler To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:42:10 -0600 Message-ID: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) In emacs -Q load BibTeX mode and run M-x customize-variable RET bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist RET The top of the customize buffer is clogged with the unformatted variable value that hides the actual customization buffer. I do not know whether this is related to bug #53606. Like bug #53606, the problem did not exist in earlier version of emacs (say, emacs 26.3). But it started some time ago (confirmed with emacs 28.2). Nothing changed on the side of BibTeX mode back then. In GNU Emacs 30.0.92 (build 2, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.24.38, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-01 built on regnitz Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Nov 24 05:42:48 2024 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2024 10:42:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33009 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFA4l-00048a-VJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:42:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tFA4k-00048E-3R for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:42:46 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tFA2Y-0002dF-7g for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Nov 2024 05:40:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=tBB+feuLOsGv12VQu69hv0DeOeX4UpGQESTeZQG1foo=; b=IU3PQ+TUDLkL Y/Pw0KcgBRpfZ7Bsc5OfaC5ybIPTDIFPgnTAOToeZJeEmYfTMVCY22u866IE0R45yOwiCNShtWzOy 5L6vPQ1igonhNulq1uLDB8qKi9Rho1zJK79ABl/kghDb5k9Bag59GUUhE9ycbdz3kcXYybAcGQ1R/ LRZnCK6e8pkovwYKHTyiKkNY7zJ3Kjod6SJN3kEJWfjU6/4lS6j0mFbb0anMLdy4JU+o4P7qVDcE3 SO7t8cKIENufNnkBFd99EAskjKlKuJ+04iXn4ev44dB4fYmUjjnU5nxJ0hinrybcaulhns6/soVXt 8MdkbyvvIk5NKaPss1cstQ==; Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 12:40:27 +0200 Message-Id: <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Roland Winkler In-Reply-To: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Roland Winkler on Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:42:10 -0600) Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Roland Winkler > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:42:10 -0600 > > > In emacs -Q load BibTeX mode and run > > M-x customize-variable RET > bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist RET > > The top of the customize buffer is clogged with the unformatted > variable value that hides the actual customization buffer. > > I do not know whether this is related to bug #53606. Like bug #53606, > the problem did not exist in earlier version of emacs (say, emacs 26.3). > But it started some time ago (confirmed with emacs 28.2). > Nothing changed on the side of BibTeX mode back then. It looks like the value of the variable was not shown in Emacs 26, but is shown now. Bisecting to find the offending commit would be highly appreciated. Thanks. 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Like bug #53606, >> the problem did not exist in earlier version of emacs (say, emacs 26.3). >> But it started some time ago (confirmed with emacs 28.2). >> Nothing changed on the side of BibTeX mode back then. > > It looks like the value of the variable was not shown in Emacs 26, but > is shown now. Bisecting to find the offending commit would be highly > appreciated. > > Thanks. I can't build Emacs 26 for some reason, but it's very likely that this is a result of my change for Bug#35133: commit 897b8561cdc856fb40b2a3c6f29230849aaf4a34 Author: Mauro Aranda Date: Sun Dec 13 10:44:30 2020 -0300 Stop dropping the tag when creating the custom-variable widget * lisp/cus-edit.el (custom-variable-value-create): Obey the specified tag format when creating the variable tag, but stop dropping the tag format for the variable's type widget, since the tag can be used to give useful information to the user about the variable. (Bug#35133) The lazy widget (from which the widget bibtex-entry-alist derives), prints its :tag. Since there's no explicit :tag in bibtex-entry-alist, and neither in the definition of the lazy widget, all of the widget value gets printed. Before my change, we dropped the tag (so no value printing for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist), but that wasn't a very good idea (see Bug#35133), since we were overriding valuable info the defcustom writer could have given to the Customize user. I tend to think that we should fix these problems by giving appropriate tags to the widgets used for user options, and leaving the cus-edit.el code as it is. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 10 09:48:53 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2025 14:48:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGJh-0005pd-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:48:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGJT-0005op-Ok for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:48:51 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGJO-0000Rc-Fq; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:48:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=AUoleGVWG9Ql29W+7nbtWyNSiRgNtFMIkuXn4ISZbLk=; b=bniscUmBOZJQ Oi5BgUpCBJpUqsWSEDFgnQGnxQpYtfDKDg7a9hpIUS/RHYXS3He5hgVx6QkgIy0+jsTS/ufyXEFKd ioMdyrRLIQ78ihYv7bKBvl8jKMiulBWv8yVGl7tLIg5NTmgpKwpc8t5ummpoATcU+/sYTGObUyuAb fJ0aFKfVFIUaNmeNnP3NqhTPy/hJg8JuPh7if7fAN6PqXGVHT6EpRh+onb0LtQ7jiMRa6X8A05lth LemRFi9XSn1M/+URgD5hTfhviVdMJacGAe3iEv+KkxZRsr9Dv2g4Yy16+usxsOmx2BfGv38G0W1QF uvM/bZD2GTBTK+YAm5vBQg==; Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 16:48:31 +0200 Message-Id: <868qri208w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mauro Aranda In-Reply-To: (message from Mauro Aranda on Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:31:28 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, winkler@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:31:28 -0300 > Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Mauro Aranda > > I tend to think that we should fix these problems by giving appropriate > tags to the widgets used for user options, and leaving the cus-edit.el > code as it is. Such a solution would be fine with me, thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 10 10:08:20 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2025 15:08:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58344 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGcV-0007AP-M6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:08:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGcT-0007A6-QC for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:08:18 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tWGcO-0003Lk-60; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:08:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=4mdTyQoslSgMtzwOglZHNIRHrteRpLwFikzi00prZNg=; b=PBtkyKV3wV/uvoUjoQqK 4pgM8XJ7/qv+BiV6hEgo4ibBfdQAeCCM759EfYpi34hHzcntOOhEKcj/EdgEWJ5HCIQUFrzMIevHr 7iQvF9bk0+WXCxN/Y8eNGHUwEGrwYUro789B4f2gwwQtSjeY4jf/OY0y1o814T17EY752zhR78/f+ WniSNlM11I6TqFpsarv7YMxF/4Dcu0EjQ0VXkrnvsIRq+6t9L29NDOS86gKQec8JMXJXYeMMI7vKg cSbMbZkrVhHaODytYEMzJi4EiLVsKxm8Zf2vfgqVDfxPzvJ5bjS23Sz4JxapD9d4DqQEjx2mBbS89 x/PTuNjXT7KeOg==; From: Roland Winkler To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:31:28 -0300") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 09:08:05 -0600 Message-ID: <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, Jan 10 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: > I tend to think that we should fix these problems by giving appropriate > tags to the widgets used for user options, and leaving the cus-edit.el > code as it is. I never understood in full glory how these widgets work with defcustom. What would be a minimal example what the missing tag could look like for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist? (Is this documented in the elisp manual?) Thanks. 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Since the variable says it's an alist, I'd say: (define-widget 'bibtex-entry-alist 'lazy   "Format of `bibtex-BibTeX-entry-alist' and friends."   :tag "Alist"   :type '(repeat           (choice (group :tag "Alias"                          (string :tag "Entry type")                          (string :tag "Documentation")                          (string :tag "Alias"))                   (group :tag "Entry"                          (string :tag "Entry type")                          (string :tag "Documentation")                          (repeat :tag "Required fields" bibtex-field-list)                          (repeat :tag "Crossref fields" bibtex-field-list)                          (repeat :tag "Optional fields" bibtex-field-list))))) And maybe it looks better if you do: (define-widget 'bibtex-entry-alist 'lazy   "Format of `bibtex-BibTeX-entry-alist' and friends."   :tag "Alist"   :type '(repeat           :format "\n%v" ;; I think this looks better.           (choice (group :tag "Alias"                          (string :tag "Entry type")                          (string :tag "Documentation")                          (string :tag "Alias"))                   (group :tag "Entry"                          (string :tag "Entry type")                          (string :tag "Documentation")                          (repeat :tag "Required fields" bibtex-field-list)                          (repeat :tag "Crossref fields" bibtex-field-list)                          (repeat :tag "Optional fields" bibtex-field-list))))) Both :format and :tag keywords are documented under: 15.4.4 Type Keywords From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 10 11:01:12 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2025 16:01:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWHRg-0001eI-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:01:12 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49194) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWHRe-0001e5-PF for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:01:11 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tWHRZ-00048I-DW; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:01:05 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=kRTtBToXd0MyvJ3S8kndfaGZNt3BiG60Wu0mbjx4xVM=; b=G9lfLo9N5NzDgOd+0Wfa 1G4KMdAZkmDye4dUqXQpyBYAf55ljqui3gmf+xrIER0zdKbfuNpMGgUol3Uh5wWJrX0lhfDWLxm7a lmoAGy0HyIQRY/Amis/dSwoj9HexEvGVGyEiNlXL9xPuli5hpHDs7emKw8zAAgT8+LnJklKqsVaul 0QURvCjBOOQ0FziJB4F6vkjCUDqH1OUG0rDLdE0o2cIu7WcHKzSR20AM6lDfFnOu+estQqPSrXTuA Lqw9ASKy6/b6YEG7gVbfPHXAqfS0D5FZEW9GlrZmnT5SRKCRwkHlWlIqWKdEAA1rMok157+X/HI90 8u5cQQMjtnRSZw==; From: Roland Winkler To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> (Mauro Aranda's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:34:03 -0300") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:01:03 -0600 Message-ID: <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Fri, Jan 10 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: > Since the variable says it's an alist, I'd say: Thanks, these real-world examples are very helpful, I'll try this out. > Both :format and :tag keywords are documented under: 15.4.4 Type > Keywords My understanding of what is documented there has been that these keywords are certainly useful, but always optional. But this bug report shows that not having the :tag keyword can have rather undesirable side effects. So I was wondering whether the documentation could gently indicate that not having a :tag keyword should be avoided (in what context?). -- But I do not understand enough details whether the fairly complex customization declarations for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist that triggered this bug report are too specific a use case to justify this. What you say suggests to me that the present bug report #74409 has nothing to do with #53606. The latter has bothered me yet more. If you happen to be able to shine light on that one, too, that would be great. 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I see, yes.  Docs could be improved here.  Not having a :tag, is almost never a good idea.  This would be specific to the section Defining New Types. > What you say suggests to me that the present bug report #74409 has > nothing to do with #53606.  The latter has bothered me yet more.  If you > happen to be able to shine light on that one, too, that would be great. Yes, nothing to do with it.  I think the patch to wid-edit.el I posted back in 2023 is the right approach to improving that situation. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jan 10 23:43:37 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2025 04:43:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWTLU-0003lQ-TR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 23:43:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33360) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWTLT-0003lB-2J for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 23:43:35 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tWTLN-0000uF-Hu; Fri, 10 Jan 2025 23:43:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=vlUPXtecacIB1C2bgGmlZSkqNXdLyvikDoYnVfviO4k=; b=oSNZPXrN8sx9hUDS6tFz xwTcXIugfnde79hw0RTqCOKd4KtYBsdSX/8IifThkmXwqDBtzqNJJ9ERMo0O3AXC8IzY4CwZbnidz DqSTFc/YlGf6jnF9TAzbVpWIEmPAaaL5QbyEEHKVXFOiwaRitunxPCoLM7CEluk2ONngxFeMw5lSn vaCaHWCaCHtkniGS8MguHCgzQ6P51vZRHjwyw9+dYKwKJdClSUnQGlLZ1Qy7ut5O5WOXCRFRcVVD+ trzVtdywkpq5HIw9jdJrQ4xSKcluQcnVZDJBwHB2QKQ50nR61GuXU5B2Ee7Uln0opASA4mz7zUJfl RN7vKfB07pveIw==; From: Roland Winkler To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: (Mauro Aranda's message of "Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:32:42 -0300") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:43:27 -0600 Message-ID: <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) I fixed this in bibtex.el following your suggestions. Now things work as expected. Commit 2f63dab3ee566f > Docs could be improved here.=A0 Not having a :tag, is almost never a > good idea.=A0 This would be specific to the section Defining New Types. I am keeping this bug open. Can you possibly provide a documentation patch regarding the :tag keyword for new types? Thanks. 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From: Roland Winkler To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:30:15 -0300") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:00:44 -0600 Message-ID: <87v7ulvzer.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Sat, Jan 11 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: >> Can you possibly provide a documentation patch regarding the :tag >> keyword for new types? > > Here's an attempt. Please review. Thanks, from my perspective, this is a big improvment. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 12 00:40:58 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2025 05:40:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45729 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWqiY-0002Pb-0K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 00:40:58 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33018) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWqiW-0002PP-03 for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 00:40:56 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tWqiP-0007hQ-38; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 00:40:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=2zI95Th+zjxrFKIvVS8dXNY+TDPcp3YI0u8OLDf3lxs=; b=ZNSnPEuH7mQP5zpmO7Sc QjzJ2ugiRcZxecGWQxD7zQBkREl0DtO3W8R18ToodWppoDi9iA7TsywsjKw7PWqizM0hkWcJtnswv 2xjqXXfNvWCGgoxQHiFIYhUh6qpOBSy41/c1P3yuDyjgR8BIIUSIfge8z1j1VN9cvRySW8H5mYe3v EFiV8fUV69I4jxQ1ah6zITGQ3LT7Tv7V//0UStewmLNLvIqWPK2kXh6m9k/jCFo7OD4eojS3BIfLB A+jGq0GcjbHcKv57LBD0aHkNBzmiV6JuIi8KAI7AHwttWk8kj6e5ipNPMPUv0/GSqyK0GK4gbLFbs /uiXZ6cQdknuvw==; Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:40:45 +0200 Message-Id: <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mauro Aranda In-Reply-To: <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> (message from Mauro Aranda on Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:30:15 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, winkler@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:30:15 -0300 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 74409@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Mauro Aranda > > Roland Winkler writes: > > >> Docs could be improved here.  Not having a :tag, is almost never a > >> good idea.  This would be specific to the section Defining New Types. > > > > I am keeping this bug open.  Can you possibly provide a documentation > > patch regarding the :tag keyword for new types?  Thanks. > > Here's an attempt.  Please review. Thanks, a couple of typo corrections below. > @item :tag @var{tag} > Use @var{tag} (a string) as the tag for the value (or part of the value) > -that corresponds to this type. > +that corresponds to this type. It's important to provide an informative > +tag for the customization interface, specially if you're using the ^^^^^^^^^ "especially" > +@code{restricted-sexp} type or if you're defining a new type. > +@xref{Defining New Types}. > > @item :doc @var{doc} > @kindex doc@r{, customization keyword} > @@ -1349,10 +1352,15 @@ Defining New Types > being either a string, or a cons-cell whose car and cdr are themselves > both @code{binary-tree-of-string}. Note the reference to the widget > type we are currently in the process of defining. The @code{:tag} > -attribute is a string to name the widget in the user interface, and the > -@code{:offset} argument is there to ensure that child nodes are > -indented four spaces relative to the parent node, making the tree > -structure apparent in the customization buffer. > +is another important keyword argument because we are using the > +@code{lazy} widget for our new widget. By default, the @code{lazy} > +widget doesn't have a tag, and in its abscence the customization buffer ^^^^^^^^ "absence" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 12 05:15:08 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2025 10:15:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46192 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWuzr-0001nV-O3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 05:15:08 -0500 Received: from mail-oi1-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::230]:55657) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tWuzp-0001mg-NA for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 05:15:06 -0500 Received: by mail-oi1-x230.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3eba583fbe8so995232b6e.3 for <74409@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 02:15:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1736676900; x=1737281700; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:cc:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=hmQ93Piy2ZNNrdqQ4dVknguwrZGB4r9YRcPr1RsTJhI=; b=PVw4I2uZxOCvCKtewmY+iMJR84XwsUu1PBRAyLxDEHwmwGj8B9N3LLYBnTbloVUZLd qOlIZ9C/g8YAmx6zFfNDFgGHVx4EFfh3AVJ7FEpFDVhsbymnK+sfS+Ngd6Bw5hsHg0tD t0BWjK4H/hOHLrGvUsLUlJcqEtYliSx9N0PFF9SbNeOaaoQDDmHvoNkmu7JN2xvb4mn9 4LtCP4fe5xO+p73oebuMqwGaelq5zv6duzjnlTxLGo4F02R7U47qOMJuv0/YsrC5+TOZ lnliA1PmAUt7Z0zt+oyqMxanCy7wwQ3iQ9lWK/JnCDeQFKF2lC6vgRbggml64/QXGQBl jYlA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1736676900; x=1737281700; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:cc:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hmQ93Piy2ZNNrdqQ4dVknguwrZGB4r9YRcPr1RsTJhI=; b=vraaZsaF6jXMU0VTNquVH47bP/AOBk5MV2E9SRlI3pXHsi4RgIoO6g68pcV3D924Dh gZ62qO2pHOAKrnnqMtD7MT+KCg6S4ZGqF4NAdCKSfCbiiZq2WL+AtvnGMx805wdEr8wV GQ8r5Qtyzv3aJPQpyqUvqlqXQzW+nt4m0OYNTpjbZdHJNSg6AE6pXtyjbpb+/EvAmAME W7N8itOTpyFVB64nXVRk6f5nrkzrHw+7vOxxZ9rz6I+QEHzal+1vUZQzJpChBywuGCiP sVs1axaI96ibLQfD2kUGGOq+ycBfx26VFF/KILZtcJsjRuj+Rl/LP7l2ZkWaiP7xBsgX Zdzw== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCWjAqivwc/+8CD5HTJnAniuPheIgm8oWq6P9bICW98V5bebjqQTjmiZjIFhc7W58Cn2P3JBxQ==@debbugs.gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw2mKB8Yqzhf+X+H0yr41tPdjaEZNKixnEzz3ZV5KPoQHbJJvFm z6zCcUXGzGB2orBgzOlxfE0WIBGj1t14woCDtuhgADWMZppYkwMf X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuiO5hOj6S3uBbDESLP+8gx70C2wz2mcP5OBTjkq7K+w23dY8PA0LMzujSDzBB bzdzPWMFRj4NXRzFskRGbyUitzpZBggeR+b1hAmzbeYWSEkoYSB/WDtYKq2iZx9UcLVKHTp4nL9 DIESbAQecyohrjT//xBM9opZattnbkHLSSickLg0IFEXK4ROKhysVtcqHe1fNfpMi+BWLlPte2Y GOiDECzIXLayQ2wqBr7b5fV/LdHcnM8Pty4tG5e1Rv4ziDO+Cd7zVnPzKen5sg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGOJgLgCkF3NxQtWRjqkXgaVyRcfyX5NeWYejMmFcChhWLx2SIhdW0FYtP9ai6EYiYx6Ij98Q== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:309b:b0:3e9:174c:4868 with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3ef2ecc306bmr11930709b6e.11.1736676899697; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 02:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.234] ([181.228.33.6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5614622812f47-3f037692f3dsm2162207b6e.25.2025.01.12.02.14.56 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Jan 2025 02:14:57 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------rGVd80mKMpViQ00S2wYc3nLX" Message-ID: <53ab8535-b0e8-4ee8-9e59-64c905a54616@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:14:55 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value To: Eli Zaretskii References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Mauro Aranda In-Reply-To: <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, winkler@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------rGVd80mKMpViQ00S2wYc3nLX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:30:15 -0300 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 74409@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Mauro Aranda >> >> Roland Winkler writes: >> >>  >> Docs could be improved here.  Not having a :tag, is almost never a >>  >> good idea.  This would be specific to the section Defining New Types. >>  > >>  > I am keeping this bug open.  Can you possibly provide a documentation >>  > patch regarding the :tag keyword for new types? Thanks. >> >> Here's an attempt.  Please review. > > Thanks, a couple of typo corrections below. 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From: Roland Winkler To: Mauro Aranda Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: <53ab8535-b0e8-4ee8-9e59-64c905a54616@gmail.com> (Mauro Aranda's message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2025 07:14:55 -0300") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> <53ab8535-b0e8-4ee8-9e59-64c905a54616@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 10:45:10 -0600 Message-ID: <87ikqkvv55.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Sun, Jan 12 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: > Thanks Eli, here's the updated patch. Thanks. Can you install this? Otherwise, I can do it. 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Can you install this? Otherwise, I can do it. Done. Although I pushed it to master, and I realized right after that I should've pushed it to emacs-30. Feeling rusty. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 12 14:26:19 2025 Received: (at 74409) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2025 19:26:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tX3bH-0001zn-EC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:26:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tX3bF-0001zL-64 for 74409@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:26:17 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tX3b8-0004BK-70; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:26:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=ryqwVrEqlBCqgKtH60PNMZW4PiosRhjWbN3on7q8WJs=; b=kBTGSh2bXB7B x05eA2Jh++7g8PR0E9LaUEWcxLKX1KkIVXQ1wO+blj+hh09RDiN263vygsfBpZ+ZPVn/4VDOqGOMw 3BgAuQE2GX0i3t4ir6ahXIBJkpsKpzzQxjHWy4igc+4Kn9BM3qpdin4et1GaA3mhFC7Z9BazwMIk9 YtsNXSaxLY2fugFhkimJVczpkQLecsi/6TXn4IFelGiEbJnV1iUbjPXIGiHAMT7JE0fWbsmT+lL9V LTOfhKFx8I1fn0CeRUkZ75xZd8f/TwkCM9M7Qj0cMvvAxT781b9N1q7twoGlcCEOxUpdIAhu5OxHF +lR2vfconKywCCF9lt6NDQ==; Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 21:26:06 +0200 Message-Id: <86jzazx29d.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Mauro Aranda In-Reply-To: <62575983-ab74-4f4c-8143-1272a2e20341@gmail.com> (message from Mauro Aranda on Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:27:00 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> <53ab8535-b0e8-4ee8-9e59-64c905a54616@gmail.com> <87ikqkvv55.fsf@gnu.org> <62575983-ab74-4f4c-8143-1272a2e20341@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409 Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, winkler@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:27:00 -0300 > Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > From: Mauro Aranda > > Roland Winkler writes: > > > On Sun, Jan 12 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: > >> Thanks Eli, here's the updated patch. > > > > Thanks. Can you install this? Otherwise, I can do it. > > Done. Although I pushed it to master, and I realized right after that I > should've pushed it to emacs-30. Feeling rusty. Thanks, I cherry-picked that to the release branch. Should this bug be closed now? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jan 12 15:01:15 2025 Received: (at 74409-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2025 20:01:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49212 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tX495-00043V-1v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:01:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46380) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tX491-00043G-On for 74409-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:01:12 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tX48w-0007ww-Bf; Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:01:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=VfP3LtV38IX84ucSfXgCaKnuQBQw8DkzA+LK7+QX/Qo=; b=rG8V0wHGWl4ibYyE49j4 1rws+Y1EZzUzjtsRhFUGENEAIw9AXlcT6JVvfq0c4Tt6Ku0Y+iUH1QPWHnHypcr/ClVNeURzWFs6U 8QVpmbwg7CR5/6YBZ8qll9hbwwXm4ySEArLRgeprbULGQKk+ZE8IVWgBz55LTmap20yPrqWrOBEow QYfqwiyIJiZpfArIWY7oPDtcDMMu2UwFrKN0o0OUIDsuQ/RhN1pMOZneg9PGfM6iJVq9Gmxjf4o+V Gtrp6Sqxvsxeen4MCKd/CXWLEsa0c4UxGPf/SKmqVyxSqL1q+r7pbznf14MXQ5209vVKT8RAwOld2 smmyyFNXTbtbIw==; From: Roland Winkler To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#74409: 30.0.92; customize buffer for bibtex-biblatex-entry-alist also shows unformatted variable value In-Reply-To: <86jzazx29d.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 12 Jan 2025 21:26:06 +0200") References: <87v7wlpjnh.fsf@gnu.org> <86a5dokj8k.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyguzoyy.fsf@gnu.org> <0c0d1f07-9830-4a38-825f-603002d343e1@gmail.com> <878qrizmio.fsf@gnu.org> <87cygux8nk.fsf@gnu.org> <58f3785e-0903-456a-afdd-dd0ea4a4ba74@gmail.com> <86o70cy4gy.fsf@gnu.org> <53ab8535-b0e8-4ee8-9e59-64c905a54616@gmail.com> <87ikqkvv55.fsf@gnu.org> <62575983-ab74-4f4c-8143-1272a2e20341@gmail.com> <86jzazx29d.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:01:04 -0600 Message-ID: <87bjwbdcov.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74409-done Cc: 74409-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Mauro Aranda X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) On Sun, Jan 12 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 15:27:00 -0300 >> Cc: 74409@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii >> From: Mauro Aranda >> >> Roland Winkler writes: >> >> > On Sun, Jan 12 2025, Mauro Aranda wrote: >> >> Thanks Eli, here's the updated patch. >> > >> > Thanks. Can you install this? Otherwise, I can do it. >> >> Done. Although I pushed it to master, and I realized right after that I >> should've pushed it to emacs-30. Feeling rusty. > > Thanks, I cherry-picked that to the release branch. > > Should this bug be closed now? Thanks, closing. From unknown Wed Jun 18 23:16:16 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 12:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator