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envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello to everybody, one of my last make + make-install calls in the last couple of days again made a file in my home directory being owned by root: | /home/micha/software/emacs/lisp/net: | drwxr-xr-x 2 micha micha 4,0K Nov 16 17:03 . | drwxr-xr-x 28 micha micha 20K Nov 16 17:03 .. | [...] | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc Does that ring a bell (Michael maybe)? Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:35:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.17318612819839 (code B ref 74400); Sun, 17 Nov 2024 16:35:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2024 16:34:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCiET-0002Yc-Ae for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:34:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:43528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCiER-0002YK-Lg for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:34:40 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tCiEM-00061j-3P; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 11:34:34 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=y+hJQNssJs8Nihh3zNmk8iCdjGYraRmfuL/ODEP3raM=; b=mqssjD1dRyzq 7yhivzN9ZngpHWsm1vk2adQHbSaJg1/46zQC2mqYMKCw80qYTaII8nNZqy8ncPAf/cxAQswaacVVu EZrC3vjg0Z96EJ+AwQru07qkOeFWErjJlAUpklUlsTayLUOstiImgy18W6G6NSj+r81h23uazQG66 dowf80L370Q7zocYg0gu8AlIWpLQSJpQktmEUaiheK3nbF1xwH39dCldkhKQMBumFA4MYG+vQnaZA 53wiWjhSev2HEWO6PRLDvrX4f5BVUSqVmJK+o9ShNMAeFYdeTXLdm7z5VEA2Te5yQKLV5g+fO33Cu N/te/9Z5Ouv5XSRka7JnNA==; Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:31 +0200 Message-Id: <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> (bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org) References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: Michael Albinus > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:17:37 +0100 > From: Michael Heerdegen via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, > the Swiss army knife of text editors" > > one of my last make + make-install calls in the last couple of days > again made a file in my home directory being owned by root: > > | /home/micha/software/emacs/lisp/net: > | drwxr-xr-x 2 micha micha 4,0K Nov 16 17:03 . > | drwxr-xr-x 28 micha micha 20K Nov 16 17:03 .. > | [...] > | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el > | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc > > Does that ring a bell (Michael maybe)? Can we maybe prevent this? Judging by the name of the directory you show, this is not the installation tree, but a build tree, right? Then it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "make install", but with how you run "make", I guess? because tramp-loaddefs.elc is produced by "make", not by "make install". From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:03:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173186292215003 (code B ref 74400); Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:03:03 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2024 17:02:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58359 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCiev-0003ts-ON for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:02:02 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.11]:55705) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCiet-0003tZ-DP for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:02:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1731862908; x=1732467708; i=michael_heerdegen@web.de; bh=6Ogmd1SlwPZgtssjPX7SQ/OuAST2xqrtHj4ETUS9E3A=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=GZP1RyG6ZDIZOfGSNNpDR8gv0qw9wxS15ltAtxw30v5qLqkN6eEQlzHfrArX7oa2 odGzp+5y6gMnRnD7ndPWweDKCjR+jEmk/cPrDuLgu45GElEYwz7y2FY33ZgPKYUT2 ucXF6pLAp4exbvRflVOBAzsouC2aJ9rKouOGtQuUHAgIKcYllHkieDEumyzea3fD/ ocZ3uFQwiSH/EFrBoty/4WwwR9uhORQI2KENgwRtd/IwSQXkBvMulc2RYtG2UTfea KdGjKmp8uZoJr4ER8LO24/2fCvxY8+emaASrYuRZbt1QXHPS090SMOf5ufmLuMN7P dwLwKA5MqxZqwuqcLg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.75.138.197]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mft7j-1tfksH2j85-00Zl8o; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:01:48 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen In-Reply-To: <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:31 +0200") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:02:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:NZ1CnGRrnkhrKSUw2aXo06DuLe1zDtp0zmCTIfG4f+W/HxWYaaP Lm+g6wevyQTSK6o4UtD907zCyv8clicQKaqu6Otr796p9ggj3JAKZK5fFLuT79nRZHihfFE A97olajFaJLC4vNPfW0sVtd6bDojycaRScSph5QDjlPvitbKuV4OjKDV3DNgUJKMgRgW0DL sdEbsRR5y3DFjonArCqEQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:DXDyABoxhV4=;Q+zxt5Q78L8b0oNJL1MY2p3lBoM unaXPOjj/VY1DzuWO3DEXRo9uUvr+wvnzSw9oGqnpIz1PYniVtctzlOvWnBU1L1+nqdWbPYIx UtN3fHCPPNbQilvJzWHKq4iS8QsHtR0cGv/vn6wLJKSZlZ08Z20mOy3wGlHR5KK1ElUG/NfGg 3Ms/762W1jJXoCW9d4TuT2w0ATyKfmzACCDnXq4xCDAx2XN7tOWdQXr+8ZKnowIzXmaNccZWE B+mlDYVu22b+kcjID+t60slvrjrEOLedF4mM2kfwLzfVoIMnZWhBdaDsWxe+VTTWIPo8d3Y5i se6sBGZJf3FVwgl/NPYR1KFLtC7AfSY7keY8hgmIl7Y2N3Sv32mt4OZRcdN14pgIF93TN+fCs 3rbvD9WwaQ6AtvJyz/9oq3+Je2B5GY9V4xtHWS7IUM58w01iaAhb3A5Qj8g6wbeeLFe+o9vV5 ZbT+Km9Lc2PBErqaDbPTb2Ykc7Makel8QcT+1CZJ47jMwZtlUWJzrFSPKj4Bygipx9SHw/bgc 6w/IuNIWLx10LmM8XwKZBxjF+ltxhqkzkDL27O0aDvd5XkjU7lDPfRPYb2O3uH3/cl3QS2Seq +9+m9qGly7djnmjJUnWjFRDPeOKKEys63bjc3WKsppewIBmw2ypfc+Q1XOEr13TW32iYrKvk0 t6e5wsAE91k+nvWnY3l9i6LycdTx6mMsfjuL48kN0dcfwNqyYmmHJ3ViacbPbMlcLKqMUTSkT UNu6RbiAL9frNAPA4D/C1MQcmW74j6b5PPhA2XNdvyEWkpNOPeJ2ntTGx1x+2I/iOJCOxFx8P +xbUb7fQlxXKW0gCL79a4cLjX+Chng359PPVhXxBKgkydXKb+p076vKUapJnrku4+s4FeBNdU V/gBdskEIYpVMAzMCkvm3qkjV22uuh3jpjrO6T+yDJ5M8Fbmn5Q+86Xgp X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Judging by the name of the directory you show, this is not the > installation tree, but a build tree, right? Yes. > Then it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with "make install", > but with how you run "make", I guess? because tramp-loaddefs.elc is > produced by "make", not by "make install". I don't have an explanation. But AFAIR I did not call "make" as user "root", I am very careful to avoid doing that by accident because I have to clean up a mess afterwards when that happens. "tramp-loaddefs.elc" is the only file owned by root - which would mean that the problematic "make" call would have had compiled only one single file (unlikely). I would estimate a probability of 75% that this was not my fault. I didn't find something like "sudo make" in my bash history either, and I did not do something like sudo su in the last days. Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173186567123089 (code B ref 74400); Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2024 17:47:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58486 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCjNH-00060L-Bl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:47:51 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:33661) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCjNF-000606-CD for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:47:50 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1731865661; x=1732470461; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=62wkOvxRl4lFkMHbDmXQ6AfHSlke0bZudlknrZWEZ70=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=Unx1MZGShsE3sfcDX93u87fzPK8mQxEz9JAjl1K1We0iF//xe8RbE3Ehnk39dWD1 qLrH23dI1qxrZBVpjyjhw+5KlknvTCAdH6y7s6FJ6Wu5GTlIeDmK+UoPQzD/vrK25 BXasLHZ4877Iu2a1U7+tDOM/dCJxwtX3FjrVN7/77JrJf68Rvaz48qXNmXdAcV/jN pECnFn3ooAK0X+NpB/5lhWqddekSoLahEj4WFkMH8t+EpJiLFUmDnLUreafrKtPZC /hsg7cJiGKrWYwXfTnqNQKWGy9g5hdQmLziOpK5cI3Rd1wLia2zKqdwsQKX+xNif9 vulAPLZFIFNVkI99cA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MzhjF-1tzczd3bt3-00wXia; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:47:40 +0100 From: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:02:46 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:47:38 +0100 Message-ID: <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:E//UZhqjjXhutoSdZ5cmoQiiStQ55zpB7H8qddQCZGE4YNyTBPJ bHmMU2YWXwBvYPvYvgRcJgVGKzObDY7Q/4LBk/tXFZVQjBK9G2lfnfxvRcRdVqemLZvTGUj knL5z2uHRPmbeeadmxfOvVg8PP7GCJ4NPUnsbxBeIiaHZWX1Wv0a0NO3mmY0pcJts274SKm zlJsh+z6Cs6lpDXR9mKug== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:UWdewZRaIC8=;ZrdEMVFVfcxfuHgvNVAQV4qT6Hi 8cBGOrT1sNvXdmz07QMsQH/O97BhSdn31tpqzvmgHNxKUBgBGSWXsnbYKJxvZkmqFSHxOwFzR bVbppD5iepVGcxUrmKAUp3eprhbIDLS43hAIKBPf+YeBcWutoCfReLcF6M/apiBK62vEGT34p ue3GICtCQ4Mh4k2oIkP7uOTF8XccDMDi0UI9uswVz8yNruJPRF9bOBF++1RkQfK8ntxOobDKv fMUKBpDGiakPUL2rPkzN+GHtq5RZUq6fYNXAt6UzfKWz/4ggh+g7Wp1kOe/P+c5fTeyq8kt7n 5gxu/8A8Z7Onz6FP/aiFQRcVEK/78vra9eq3jwAeIXwhXsiNFEcoM1IIXkMoNwHPYzzfLYII7 8QK+s/mvNatsmisJ8cmq9PoVzjHghYs/AHRuBsld/U6Yg5WDnRpfD2hC7WJ5/QQ3GBw/6c6Rv HX5bNCmHRJGUpou0aOzokmGUcv2ydgKUIOUDTUY2Ukr6qXebBcd4Frx0wtnNOgDQMH0VDBXhH map/LB8zLqvxJbeydL0KsVaRVoeNIBqci9FIX0VZlcIby+j9yO/fwvfyM9h7giucUSzTPp+F3 LrZOH16YUPmIZjHwInVefpiFfQaFYNGYoXrkheJ+Q1JJEiUJhh5pTxC+EBAWSRBV5sO74LyCp rp/XdsvsCdtKt9e7wurmdOk7kTyloHRYfk73PNyWB1hPvSn70KLkcD4pF7wjChyAlrAw775cG Bjw7USjYBLShcw2BTb97pzQlXjMgbjMNPCZzMT4uPtkRvOZqs3TgtHmQb5OhTmXjHp+3HrO4k oKuMVcrrs+ASWGNzS9T7aCoP2IGSi/J6rxAUQmZiDf44IlTuT1PsdL6gyO+uvU3009Vq+TKxK t2aAdxmv8B31Yj9m6bAqQcC4GxRg8VTQ05PnhAKOfAYzMhxEbtoacgxub X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Michael Heerdegen writes: Hi Michael, > I didn't find something like "sudo make" in my bash history either, and > I did not do something like sudo su in the last days. I tried to reproduce, and I've applied --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- # make bootstrap # sudo make install # ll lisp/net/*loaddefs* -rw-rw----+ 1 albinus albinus 110234 Nov 17 17:37 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el -rw-r--r--+ 1 albinus albinus 122088 Nov 17 17:58 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- This is inside the git repo. No idea, what happened for you. You have shown --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Do you know (from bash history or whatever), which command did run at that time? Perhaps also check bash history of user root? > Michael. Best regards, Michael. 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No idea, what happened for you. I also can't reproduce this now. > You have shown > > | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el > | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc > > Do you know (from bash history or whatever), which command did run at > that time? Perhaps also check bash history of user root? I didn't find anything obvious apart from the daily make -j4 plus sudo make install. I'm quite sure I did not use a root shell or root Emacs two days ago. I try to recover everything I can find in my memory. If I don't find something, let's assume a pilot error, although I have no idea how I could have caused this by myself. Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#74400: closed (Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root) Message-ID: References: <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 74400 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 01:57:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1731895022-13488-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1731895022-13488-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 74400@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 74400: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D74400 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1731895022-13488-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 74400-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2024 01:56:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59279 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCqzr-0003UF-Ch for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:56:11 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:40393) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tCqzk-0003Te-Lo for 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:56:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1731894955; x=1732499755; i=michael_heerdegen@web.de; bh=0elr/VCd/X8RBUwD8Jb/OZb7YFp5JiTK4ENqbCT+YDY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=dqEIFGVMeCid6x486W3HDrXh1lpPLE81Ac0jJgYwcbqMR4uQUDMtVxN7bJDF9oKT 67dm2kQgp51nnzyQFkxW6107FO2EFBkCNcNRF7TE+qr57MdslvBNzYBrEygbGJ+Lt rAB8SjGQpZz1ePN/SpxtEhIJL029VJnMIga+wLvEPly+r+45jfh1Ws5eNozrWJOJZ cnpH2XelJX8qmXX+RExWqohPiwplvxXXtfSsA2O/OTARJCsBUJWRoalxjt1ZJkcGO /EZ1eetMKh2ntXyoGr90E3hVzQtnDnyGSlDIkNN+KPFghj0LWwJugXvccBqNSrRrc qeQmarkcLGf5JI1VmA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.75.138.197]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mc1VF-1tkWaC2FYd-00ejFt; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:55:55 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root In-Reply-To: <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:23:19 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 02:56:53 +0100 Message-ID: <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:LkH+I/5BElZBbdkuV6oEffsQt711gVPndhOHxE02axFh7eMgvS1 Bs9UFxHLeXdM6qCjmCcCZ2D9kvXZE9cxlZi3cTgaE2D6mNdv438luGwb2DDkYEYUT0+Xrc7 MK+vjZ3HAG4Bx7HBd9heAvWSuY8ypZ4Jk7Eaj4AgT1ar14ylj6X4gdSSMi+ZOrWpT34jvWg I1/Y5TeWT+9spHDTDw6cA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:XplWfevn/9o=;OvCWY29lBu8uslpI9OAFvpY6+Iz 6UqsxB4peABGtT30l8qtArC0Ojj4Fbu30gJslt5Q1AujfpSvUT2lHTUYf+OHY8WBRXJk7fYj+ lMKEyY6hUwtW00V46Xghb95kQlttjIJFhA90IZrenq+ZetdnHyrgMIhgKM9F1EbQn1T3ScGS5 z8H/E5BRqVc/7Io3YHsa2zrsG4lwBgo7dfZhsUiYhXHZGhGbpFE0+QkbBq6NPiuIecoDCuI8k TAOXpLDLDHYjFu6OY+OfNszgb80cZz5vAh0Qtb+DFH3C1dflQ+xTlb9A4WrN6Fx7d8yuFqd1M pdPSMT8cptrKlblQ43DmS3ZZhpOeNVEyWwdpYeu6LWta0zZyzKAyQRyMUeWWp3WGzcE+wXuBJ J9vyYT6fUjPK2uhufFAEMA/+OjXHr8ZdlhudRc9Aq5jFSvbKc7hprh4EP7APWthtTKQRYFZw4 uKwa0u6ZtJfaZNgPXkHWzaK2TKFJcPVcAMVNLcNzcnpuNgE+zPh/VR2rMae5u9AM7Fo3ODdAJ /yrU5qb6e+tmoqDh80pYJLa8DTZWpNUsmqRDG668wim8NvEY/As9MdiLfYvb1vL+ipa2eaASu DvxTvkhEMB21gszDBfvGJDo23jNEGpjaC7ZKZsoAD50hYZGhtTLCASrUj812ia644+0ySIPUa BIIK9IBd04q307ihiPrzNghHYv1sbgMojOvgii0cuj3tPnWuBKUAcu71+9wP1EbP9ye/XKzSy nuRTEaGHjCkDqoDgnoXj9DVy+jBOaBz0tE92pstVhrGi+u60GjCabMFVbDMhBuBLGbKy2mnrW EdX3MIrHhUgIted6ZEZjW4qL7c2DuwxyIGjglTJtit+HiPOzQCj4gph/EFNz9My4Vhq2kGGNT v6OEFI0MHtzcqb1q/fzq4uYKD/FxhOKqtlAkPwKFfwb8lPKtHu/mn2Y2E X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74400-done Cc: 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) Michael Heerdegen writes: > I try to recover everything I can find in my memory. No idea to be honest. Let's not waste time and assume I made nonsense. I can reopen in case it comes back. 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Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) ------------=_1731895022-13488-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#74400: closed (Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root) Message-ID: References: <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 74400 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 08:39:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1731919142-20510-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1731919142-20510-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. 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Let's not waste time and assume I made nonsense. > I can reopen in case it comes back. Wait, I could reproduce the problem: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- # rm lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc # sudo make install # ll lisp/net/*loaddefs* -rw-rw----+ 1 albinus albinus 110234 Nov 17 17:37 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el -rw-r--r--+ 1 root root 122088 Nov 18 09:27 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- I'll reopen the bug. > Michael. 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Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) ------------=_1731919142-20510-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#74400: closed (Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root) Message-ID: References: <86ed38vh9k.fsf@gnu.org> <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 74400 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:50:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1731934202-584-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1731934202-584-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 74400@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 74400: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D74400 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1731934202-584-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 74400-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Nov 2024 12:49:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tD1CG-00008i-8b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:49:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tD1CC-00008R-L6 for 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:49:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tD1C7-0005Vx-Bf; Mon, 18 Nov 2024 07:49:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3nTMlOCe2lXUru/hMeADUJRpSIWWLIXLqUcWBGsYrmk=; b=hIdmKqQAZ5h5 znvjHxUzrjPh76uWxgVoZjLHYck0iSqUDrWG1pVhhHYJBJQ4uctHB/MjvIWJNf0PNcuZm3eAJ1ANI pUB6GKH6CFzaUsEDs6EsqxszffgUW2cy+atL2nTCMatKOc0OWzHTZOm/f+d+6Ai+lRIeoZc3Wswtg lCk7QFf7n4pdwwoqNSbS6AyK0qR8wVtEe8GnqDHLjPOTz256FVli9KfFsKjTq4fjW+CTPXlmED0+g xLkLYs3ncpJWz+L1QxfdRaynZ4+1bEZnYXPfSOnSuS1ixs4hGyVgS8/1z3FqwBYnur8WU/5veM0DN fYX4mFsXDHvNqTLThPI3Gw==; Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 14:49:27 +0200 Message-Id: <86ed38vh9k.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:37:51 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74400-done Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 09:37:51 +0100 > > Michael Heerdegen writes: > > Hi Michael, > > >> I try to recover everything I can find in my memory. > > > > No idea to be honest. Let's not waste time and assume I made nonsense. > > I can reopen in case it comes back. > > Wait, I could reproduce the problem: > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > # rm lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc > # sudo make install > # ll lisp/net/*loaddefs* > -rw-rw----+ 1 albinus albinus 110234 Nov 17 17:37 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el > -rw-r--r--+ 1 root root 122088 Nov 18 09:27 lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- But note that here the time stamps of the two files are very diferent, which seems to indicate that tramp-loaddefs.el was somehow byte-compiled as part of "make install". Whereas in the OP, we saw a different picture: | /home/micha/software/emacs/lisp/net: | drwxr-xr-x 2 micha micha 4,0K Nov 16 17:03 . | drwxr-xr-x 28 micha micha 20K Nov 16 17:03 .. | [...] | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc Look, ma: same time stamp. 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envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Hello to everybody, one of my last make + make-install calls in the last couple of days again made a file in my home directory being owned by root: | /home/micha/software/emacs/lisp/net: | drwxr-xr-x 2 micha micha 4,0K Nov 16 17:03 . | drwxr-xr-x 28 micha micha 20K Nov 16 17:03 .. | [...] | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc Does that ring a bell (Michael maybe)? Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) ------------=_1731934202-584-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#74400: closed (Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root) Message-ID: References: <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de> <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 74400 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 09:10:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1732007402-10774-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1732007402-10774-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. 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Let's not waste time and assume I made nonsens= e. >> > I can reopen in case it comes back. >> >> Wait, I could reproduce the problem: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> # rm lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.elc >> # sudo make install >> # ll lisp/net/*loaddefs* >> -rw-rw----+ 1 albinus albinus 110234 Nov 17 17:37 lisp/net/tramp-loadde= fs.el >> -rw-r--r--+ 1 root root 122088 Nov 18 09:27 lisp/net/tramp-loadde= fs.elc >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > > But note that here the time stamps of the two files are very diferent, > which seems to indicate that tramp-loaddefs.el was somehow > byte-compiled as part of "make install". Whereas in the OP, we saw a > different picture: > > | /home/micha/software/emacs/lisp/net: > | drwxr-xr-x 2 micha micha 4,0K Nov 16 17:03 . > | drwxr-xr-x 28 micha micha 20K Nov 16 17:03 .. > | [...] > | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el > | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc > > Look, ma: same time stamp. Which seems to indicate they were both > produced at the same time, so probably by the same command. My example doesn't claim to be the recipe which happened to Michael. But it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we should know (and document), that it could happen. 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Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) ------------=_1732007402-10774-1-- From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173203168518084 (code B ref 74400); Tue, 19 Nov 2024 15:55:01 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Nov 2024 15:54:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43728 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tDQYv-0004hc-BX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:54:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tDQYt-0004hQ-NI for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:54:44 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tDQYn-0003G8-TB; Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:54:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=CoTRZYGWehXJAN17K2IMtmvvav287wrYZXGWW5jBubo=; b=DzQMD+anXCEe AHmvgcdv6W3DBxrgR/DDoB7QqhjI6KaIFJUp7jqcYjYdZUF0J5E01AlMgbkyx8kbvmETVTnd0gjOV CvtQ4c88ckP4rdxyZWaVvmQ9K3DXqnc8tOaKX83whQX5AbdQZFbn/1bX/FwsLea4IX6HDr3wNba01 LWq6xH3aPbiZX8pZeHGpAMAfE67idKn0a5E2IGuA0QubXbjbA30vRqg5Da83KEhx6kWzvx99Y1+uD ANcPYyD5vfytri79rXh4uCQDGHQyYorb5w+RiV3yWfcSnrluV6elLXVye2CzHUyEJmipLOFalhud4 /NL4Jb+WBDD13m4eVs9rww==; Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:54:33 +0200 Message-Id: <86ldxfte12.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de> (message from Michael Albinus on Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:09:20 +0100) References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> <86ed38vh9k.fsf@gnu.org> <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Albinus > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:09:20 +0100 > > My example doesn't claim to be the recipe which happened to Michael. But > it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the > build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. > > I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we > should know (and document), that it could happen. If it's important enough, maybe. I think "make install" uses chmod to give everyone access to the file because some files could be owned by root. If that works, why is the ownership important? 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No idea, what happened for you. > > I also can't reproduce this now. > > >> You have shown >> >> | -rw-rw-r-- 1 micha micha 108K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.el >> | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 120K Nov 15 17:01 tramp-loaddefs.elc >> >> Do you know (from bash history or whatever), which command did run at >> that time? Perhaps also check bash history of user root? > > I didn't find anything obvious apart from the daily make -j4 plus sudo > make install. I'm quite sure I did not use a root shell or root Emacs > two days ago. > > I try to recover everything I can find in my memory. If I don't find > something, let's assume a pilot error, although I have no idea how I > could have caused this by myself. Did you make any progress here, or should the bug be closed? 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Michael Albinus wanted to do something about this issue as far as I understood. I really would appreciate if this would be fixed. Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Michael Albinus Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173583246329312 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 15:41:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46189 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTNJm-0007ci-Ui for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:41:03 -0500 Received: from mail-ed1-x52f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52f]:47580) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTNJl-0007c5-54 for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:41:01 -0500 Received: by mail-ed1-x52f.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d3d143376dso16577536a12.3 for <74400@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 07:41:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1735832460; x=1736437260; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=T1zF5PeyaWJT/bjnWMOnZnagvbaiMvj6Xq89AnRnCdk=; b=SyaWRFYE1ily+TGnLHkScB6s+Mi+Qn5qD/Pez8Fg1BVOgPzIorQxk/VudAEmp9xIlO MzN/UvclMWeNPdmowGxdUTTGzZ8Cfm9cTK8UxsVT8tj6aMQtSupjYfQ1UoxAHisprRIb j7shia1Q97+PtAL4aAqXK+mLH+qLwGGlNLUMwPn/SSjW+8gRsqVe3iDImtpekp2nDZL2 WSn6V/JyBUYzlmSUnjAnK0wNRZxQsuuqhGopNLFDAuFrHfwBLAlT7KGNzme6Bskc7qWR jyxin8BzLEam/E6Ah8gxhKkMhZGmRHH61Yc+D5CbedMaX54lizTJQT9RTvHzBvRaNH0L Ac1Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1735832460; x=1736437260; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=T1zF5PeyaWJT/bjnWMOnZnagvbaiMvj6Xq89AnRnCdk=; b=DElAmOCMP25pDTxcIMRp+meqJD2EqTXJsPNGsD72UDvgB7pfWd5r4H2f5dI2v/syyZ S8expu/lI51pWVJ0tQKUhB82+2Kjbs1dzKpi2e5T1Ize6bjiTU92AiG7XujbWa+c9r7g 8xUunmXAaNKL5hjPvyuoqeoD0utG/7qKpgErS5hNorVGtyrm6ne84chs+R28/PCGwTxM ueDYVRbieRbUCDUXsRhoaVYVjyehmgxmw+BNhxoRIkP5nmPdD8ZsJd6zn9Yp+aniNrqt 0MvyFYMSBLtFrSwnZNFwGSVbuTxDxP/Y5sV8muItKSMo5pSpU6Nj0Pv2vQACLH9R4WPH 77Xw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxtXC12+1HBQIVXqNNhwSyO3WLiT7vtXNXKFOKnKGQP+X7mOqed eNfgrb6FODsUOtKGVcgYjQBfcYVj0kj6oAS+NlS4pVmy+DfLXaQ1o90dXzb6i64iS9CLkwtQnZ0 Aqg/kAD38Fa5uAOrnxIBimJUYQTE= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGnct35i5pJzkrOwHRKJQ+XCHN1wQORflQi1GvylyOOhNTZJVf0i+d2Yy/Dz7XreD +PEu4/BXvZs6Isa4wQGWhjKUfzUXroctKH+FLPhPx X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF1eXKb1eFj7Riesutklwu62qVW4c3KHHqCvVH0OPeF5lkC/EsB07iY8O2sK8vBg7n7nn1+peZBJ0+X76mFQrM= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:51cf:b0:5d0:d18f:cc64 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5d81dd64086mr41595247a12.4.1735832459714; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 07:40:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:40:58 -0600 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:40:58 -0600 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) severity 74400 wishlist thanks Michael Heerdegen writes: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> Did you make any progress here, or should the bug be closed? > > Michael Albinus wanted to do something about this issue as far as I > understood. I really would appreciate if this would be fixed. Ah, right, I see that now. Yes, it would be good to fix this. I'm tagging it as wishlist for now. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173583248829368 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 15:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 15:41:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46194 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTNKB-0007dc-NA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:41:27 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:33717) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTNK9-0007dK-RJ for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:41:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1735832479; x=1736437279; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=j66ADHzk2+qcIhlu7IMHo9yxutcPwT6AD8CLYwGfaN0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=CGk5QAKPu+JKEy+Stui/KjTwJ0TIO1C3WKPFafbx2d7XKvB6pPw3mL4MSvJU0I3n g3jFlrvdkFV3fhvEBWr+Vx+rVcJj5CIC46VKV6vtc9GjCz4DJBklmyYFJ91FipV+C 1D9M12Dlk0XJLspHL3A6vGh5tPcxLhyK1H903vCrxcXKYkudrbDSJwyurRpm0sq1q XkWrVvmHOD56fvXhPN0rgSbJeXnfzDiEcp8cO6ODhac2g8etegG6ftQQlONx8bVuf 4Vf5mCejWews6nvYNsTsfdOgBHi03xsvRhzN0q6ESlyYru7il/1+pqHCL+9nklRkG +bIJZBvo2JIDZHXhXg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MLQxN-1tBZDp3HP9-00VHik; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:41:18 +0100 From: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:36:22 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:41:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hQTkT7ElStDhH7d6B2qqA7RButxeJ/MAKx/qj6DE/Yvoa5mzNyd X1DTFvWuBE1QOoZMHep5rh7dDHzORHA4yWsOh/ugPFInUr0Z/t9rD+72I5CXaRYY17WBpoO kIh+bz23haObYjypEAuZaiGquzX1Gos1arywE1WNYNPBaXNr2VAVqw+7q01BwTJE4RWRBMA MQolHMo5RPx9YZ5QSBiSw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:KKWLQw/8tyc=;9s0AX4jWiro6fENTEi2XBLOztvP nbkOxK8wdXuuWKRfs9/DWKOPatLQj6V4gSmUevOoL1E3gJ/fVyGllvXwf0VQkwP1xCtz0mpOd SQr8I1SPHBRjDkPGL7RManN6crkMSDH4Dqji43zDysHLRD7i2ZJNViTjaF65UDanyyjZNYT2W 4toa1JiscbTBsCWfOuPBckwRUdNb0C5KZi99uzjkyNCF9AsvxSUQ0AgIZYjeEE4v3XhtJjUWf uxRqYE6k23ugi61cYlCqQlZqGbT05Rm8dFbMqsH4NsNyVunepmenMdHvMp2h/1qDD2Bg4/hYy 6lJyBl8n4qVbzZ5PA7mLYEU107he5Y+nmeC8CNKTkC6TE+H1BEQs3IQfYsxVBQ0w76GuxkkEf mJP5CYtkOySF+2o2GrnNZAqQV2G4k94tD8xfiVU00PClNcAQwgaIqDJSkvn6z0apLbOn3NJaf 9ooxigg0ysCMMO3t0Pn4ou77oKUvn2sDlXVDU6yO623q+BhzoWnHT9iHIYpEZSUYuzr05q3Vn 28/7+CxQioeyOcO+1oAWit7Ijtzkf8S85ckn9A3GVs8tIqmxWbq/4ddp1saLTTRfg1FDPLjng LXx94//uCS5JrL0eUkbRP2iNDkJNhwVt2IwRjgckg9TxllEl6w3Nhw9F1nGz/H79MMZWnYvU3 CmfU4ZN6LzRp3dYkCozaUy1HAqfytm7RIf28GF1BlwNUehD+ml4d+St3Er+Kn0EBOdbhaonEy 2a+ZdyOY8aYj2w32OMWay3++NDWqkpx+Vi9xw2u5jowGHJ3cibqoYZTaWGy3DT3CA0QTY4dOH oJISNxa1/O1lQBmiPt6oCx/8rku4kyw8lOld+B5voa0R+7xE5i8xjG5fs1mbHgjI0f9BJCnkN iyeIisQhU9ZKBFcVCF7Gf1r4P3y0/AamzpDvOUs5YiYN78wKDQn6OOR3X9OkCQ0boaLQ2TVn/ 2W68ciZlrJoIwzVzV0qnobrwVo+YdkGyvgTjZ8ooZnuEK1op4TD3VnU2ZOcsvjYGJgmxJ5bbj CDcCODhgb6wkgNOLZhHfXIS5cd0ctZIlmFcJVanKTwY91z88lhTm2n164lKwalMZgPxQrdZZ0 mNdDUb/HWFOq9Ue5tdZrzHafD/M6zO X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: Hi Michael, > Michael Albinus wanted to do something about this issue as far as I > understood. I really would appreciate if this would be fixed. I'm not aware of this. There was only one contribution from my side to this bug, with Message-ID <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de>. > Michael. Best reegards, michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173583798915155 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 17:13:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46376 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTOkv-0003wN-FY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:13:09 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.14]:49301) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTOkt-0003vu-Km for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:13:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1735837980; x=1736442780; i=michael_heerdegen@web.de; bh=22zZeAxOihaRDHh8c/l6dmNHL/xqUVAEXWRE0EjACeY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=whJmzQQDhVN+UwivuF0HRvMcNl1BpEOxtqgOf9MFc84IuTMw6iDAy2KtEC6WbkNT nzjZyXPrM4fclbKh2p8F7H2372FFbt+9XhjKgYKNv2EcwxI8Cno+KMO6LjqhCtAtl WCr2U09nG6aONWaMlLOy6r5Cf9h8eDspOBntET5Bd6TIKsTn/hhJ9FC7hwsx3Y3ST Ahq8Znu0mBCErbJB6uyyiMTtpEQl8kPqhFlfI+uASxzqU7Euzb5FdB6UbdYXlmL0V k7ZSaaGM6G4IU5MlLt05WFc2iBuB9OTKFVa4cwD/611KP1txZWU21nEB7ERIqAahQ +rS7mjCZaHl3Od9SOA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.75.138.197]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb005 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MFauo-1tGnZK1f6k-00EYMO; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:13:00 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen In-Reply-To: <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:41:15 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:14:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2H6DWfmTqTIdFw5h4aGYAJgvz98gZRYnI/jtQ3Q4kXep9amTtoT Z3y2D54ZCQqXSsoVMwDuYY03DRr0EqxI3mfLtEhQOXv9fPC1Ot5YcAxpObgTLfCfFviYNmY Gs3ovszDfBRv6jEwwVj4HlrkW6pouqX2VaYzP3K2HlTJ3o+OpA2C5cyBfKM4ynfP8uyORHh vhDBndCsHbi0gDOiTDJmQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:wLzWSxA1SJg=;6yXVx7cV/4rWNwaxL1yt6j5lT3w YR+FtAb5lqBbyFp+EZGdLpEawjuaMeQ60nFvyzzsSC2P8YJDOQGDY9FS/cRNm4ORBk9+Aj2Em rF0bgfdIbeKTLr/xkGxgHTXWlsBwEFY6OsXY+mucWfpA4oz1Qd2D+ytfHtsMqXIi0n6Dmi/YE atm7Es3BEXjRlV7WvlAASxLUWD5pVX89nIZanpCm2kLc6PLKlXVy+IvR9zI3skhjo+4dQJgoI L2v2Ak1FyBrmnmiSk2AmfkMSA6zqyulEkqGUbVnvzwzp2mgnZIQ8g8HwA+gVjvvKC9RRbebqq olCGltZpP9Q6TmPHiQrXs9i22257Dvi02gLNXu1KCaZjWJJ7TdH5lOOXwK8pAa8HZqBFud4BJ S4Gu7MHKdONy1Avb7b1K3IX1vUebs2iDP9Ly6NGdxDm+ayzkEdaA0qhRwERKWJ2S7dcMhsHjt iy/4WYpFMgVcsyTCQTs9E1V8rDSrs3UK2gUEEeXD1YtqBmq3u3NTE81DR6rPDPOlvmo2liKG7 NxQMZ2EpyrWQcc2/cpxxbFrbIelsN2yGX3jo/2hNoXLgU6YWLzlPmROS88z4xFLbmDEoUNFeg wqLqE5L4EEGcJV0jgI8p4Q25yvip2HT1RLQRV0OV8to/kYtwpV/0vQx0GiByx4rTgCIwDAh2d 7H3ozq+87sTosR5uRAME3ELapDuBdHpuKWxxcBlp5eLGbpziFaZC/Hq5k3taI1JqLNgwbm/xj XJP+GqpkXGiym9CWDrMIGFY/acZNGnGxOhipHovKSWx3zrh/C6hG2a5WViIrcAVqesRgHezmO Pe2bCxiavlFK+Djk+pwHZKzYe4Od4V6yQFFtKxN0tFGC5nBCAw8qnDHrVxd9Sin9ko5mmTxnZ Yrs2aEQjfoecs55aRT5Hp9+RHxZfVXv/qm3d7Raz6/Ubj8q3AR35gJC//FNgcfCcBu71p1Ut+ X2iI80KhVrfa7y76VwzztqFJkNasjQ9tdsB5ZphE3mDKRO66RT8pac1fAWtYjBuz1VS3x7rxG xCd85v5eJzvhIl2nPPf2VVnwaEyYQarTlb7o76/Yn0wxcbuFMAmCOJ0hTYiFZ0Qpp9WwQxgUh VVPAfYWBQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > I'm not aware of this. There was only one contribution from my side to > this bug, with Message-ID <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de>. No, we had continued the discussion on Nov 19th, with "74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org" in CC. But it seems these messages have not been archived. Do you have them? Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173583874217910 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 17:25:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46436 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTOx3-0004em-Vs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:25:42 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:36609) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTOx1-0004eR-4u for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:25:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1735838730; x=1736443530; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=2gX8zkkaBQ0/EBMy7VwihIRxKDcPXJS+VemYK9pV0gM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=djw7AOLna5XSduid1EXXDl6PunUBTER7RrTZW/6LLd++u9RbIS+wzWgZNuEYGKAF hCkuuxD7LPBI0cog3n2iShTNoKHKeJfRS898I1tMADhM+3uk+0CZ0h4ZLnc/gYMAr 0UtsbOMU1wHvHOSeRBUyuanhNPcmyeHO15heRjtasieY1QnpwbJGjGB14PeTgeNuT 6ReulFITzfQ2Qran0wn2gP/ywT4LlaiaJBCGs2Cf/zvUb2jDatNIKgQLNDQ2TL3e9 l/U/wp0rqRMZiTpRMm/npS0rQyzt9snMGhgvtjuhZmaW0qZcwoGXtqx9alRVhKCLh RYcyMFt5KFVqV02PYQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MiJVG-1twQZw1djS-00gIBJ; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:25:30 +0100 From: Michael Albinus In-Reply-To: <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:14:11 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:25:29 +0100 Message-ID: <87h66hgmba.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:FVnFgmWoPbwhAS2YLcl6sElO7p6Md7l7KXIrcMTM8DUThpqq6RQ LKK+K9pD9N2f0Mvbm0tkKKxdBOuQ6es7wRJRNEypyAuylVgGTjPcXYneQ2GFHQpQDu76ggF rYdjUi3oiphtLyZMUyJ1T3m2hwXx7ZH03nsQBVrScrZc1otDNwXtU06CJMbeaQS/ULPIhkB fieJzIUg/UQ75nSrvqnnA== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:E+H6VznT3G4=;If5bDH7lqqOHdvHxk3UMNIR177Y FAbJgf1MgKI2sSprB7uF6mrKSq03gD1HuoCUJ0RZ/79BmMOZquv1LxgjMewokpEtM6LB+Qpct Fd0vRKcmY8q0QctGpuYoLQWsYNgBiVZolkAsIgp4+2jvXoCJRoKRbsaEgTv186+Zyz4dqcOxK JIoL6UxQTAsVO7IggmrgR8hmqr7GhLP38VaXBJFSlbGJ15p4K+9gTX6NhRUoOwgb7EjkGF3MS c0IGBTgKoZW12U+JmlR8yO3GkGKsGKgToWf1pxdBYOh22dh6iZKyYqXFWO80P4RffnLir/9ms lSu6CcxoH+aNRIWSzQcopmwwyINnVV6fhhHX5mxPFyhL3uM2y2hBTvz2hRsgcz0fF+gwB4Ojw 2FiFBLpihVqf2rhawIGk9qRT4WK/DYVIMrxfkhbtuFHnaahncihQcFrp98nsa3b7yVaEUCpaL ciEYy6XsOMn8pRFSnJTNLvOh/CjF56NwsbtvWel1bUl9hL4LG0gIjN1KJiVlWF+24T6wHC0JW 2Rulxrp6x7uRjZ5pY5Mgq2S/m1PvAZMwsCxEC4ldYVDiOpY+2Ix9lZ4U3vI45GuQXZauUY3x5 U/EwphG2vl+j3LLJNUZ0Sc/kq3MeUWlWsvAGr6fA6iGFlZj55hdJg9XwDJcEElX3Za47EVqF6 9g0a7aKeeXMgnUpk/0nK09CV7ZT3L2dcE3qbThptcx0FacCcQAZx6leVWc7JUJrhvSiqSZwSr Ltft6FwaqRF/zKebkpfxwRV55+JJVlLsaDcSzmkOuHehCMbvOC6/GDjhIrqKYlhkGR6iK6rPB tj3p0XKEf6v5ua7dOoyG0yM1Cnwh7KMoQBvArIe1bT3nSV0tPP4959+bMzoJzFRv6phhQ1Yyd affKFti7uTMg0/5fubYZ3dWvrLlNd7UGEQjxcw5URZGAy1Yd0MY8ktXOAJ7qKZLhHbAU43oGo kgYJRw5w3GZXTAGrIlw8BvUft9nrBlgB1XDJl3+6Op9GQfgATyBREfw/NWrpYAe5NtTve7KXz 6bx2Pkt74nQNlQMgU7v2/tQRCYiZV0j4RxhE8nX/F85lnvt6KqqlfUxBPHQE9Q1YSPqQnY0CA PHS9OhkUI= Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Heerdegen writes: Hi Michael, >> I'm not aware of this. There was only one contribution from my side to >> this bug, with Message-ID <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de>. > > No, we had continued the discussion on Nov 19th, with > "74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org" in CC. But it seems these messages have > not been archived. Do you have them? Ah, yes. I've found another message from me (Message-ID <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de>), where I said | My example doesn't claim to be the recipe which happened to Michael. But | it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the | build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. | | I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we | should know (and document), that it could happen. Strange, that it wasn't added to the bug's messages. Anyway, I kep it on my todo. Perhaps I find something useful to write next days. > Michael. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Michael Heerdegen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Albinus Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Kangas Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173583977921196 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 17:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 17:42:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46485 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTPDn-0005Vo-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:42:59 -0500 Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.15.3]:54929) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTPDk-0005VY-4g for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 12:42:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1735839769; x=1736444569; i=michael_heerdegen@web.de; bh=uRQeCtOPl7IwUB/aTPgUP5cGDsAGuOhuAK607A9r3NA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=F2jedD1YUpppWB8HkJU8AEgrrfFhanNZvJLwzkRJBEWPYALUW+SIxWAOZj9veYoI hd4Rj/AH/VNSpKhn46c0TuAJ/Njyye1WmCKy+gXqK3iikfNWL8Z3HKxFrKuh91nJC 3814cIZW6zb2/8NragYeigSMC+1UVz1KGn0FcIR+wviKVwNZL1kICVjD5u+0q3qzC fp+6w30lmHJ3SuxlREwmSXOQDbx0MF7SI4tM8UTkPp5Cy9WLVlZqryaJ7pENMD1oj WF7A6R4d9Jmmo68FKh/epGSrJZx4oyCuHkJTYoEgDvVBcaLk3diNbeJGs8x26dmbv 32kA5ZGU9xhYhon4jg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from drachen.dragon ([92.75.138.197]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Md6tr-1u2C8g3Fp5-00gwQz; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:42:49 +0100 From: Michael Heerdegen In-Reply-To: <87h66hgmba.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:25:29 +0100") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> <87h66hgmba.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 18:43:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87jzbdm7q8.fsf@web.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:0Lc2rFr5cjfyh9rCfQnba4OqTf2NMcmRlHPgYOyR2oW+mEjQKc0 sLeNyfDsCDN6jgF8n1ax5ycQeCGBFyE1AoKncQ/ORI3qeQGnytvnR/t6RsZiFUDQx5aSfNP 7d9+eIKPQR4T6IwimGI5HNLidJh1bGR2S2fb1XclPbkwDIuhF8yVFu/OtUdIJl5PNHtB876 X3oLhbUCQbaC9BzrQGMXg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:GfUzcp54AKo=;tjQV2U4GETTeoqZxC0bkT7yDJ+5 I4g1nEJmqksUxZxTAUT4rGWknhVu+Z5G9x8nNXDy2seq8JeeNy/LHLHYhXW5CL/rIRiJ8VVMH 9zOzNY4jdZ92JthGpWIGJeAiiS4T2SYkIQL8/Gd/hJ+SVh1ll+1KjlMuie3I1a5QGkiSISnJS C3nye/Ltb8oEeNtBWfH3s6E3ufRLZdPxEbHFlz8t1jLpckAWlN+fsKV5TkdEJQFoqa1lDLhHu WqxeiGvHHOrxhMcpZdtl/jPPuNZ8CKOpEEriBuOnuvlg/brRsYB0KYXD8R+Vy9/9uILrjNDsM sFjOhm0ZBciDYFLWlJ8Be1tvEiirjTOcNRDMD+zPs3xdHQB6ijfcb1gpFow4J3tihilElOOIk PPZTEWAWY0pL6bwrqfvM0qjDtNy1gRF/efvyWIGW824bl3u2kBrVfwXzu7PwwwJx/dyUAhwkW LwrlwDu4bdf/6QZ7/yy9SNdQs/VGxkb/xn1QkebVSHvK4J8SplglgTgHK9qjr4NL9zzqNcy3r W0X35ocPRE+Vr0sGbUitz+qMVZRYHd8E4pudxintL3iGyiG/f6Q4A2MdxDyjv7cTMBroSJQfH Xgj2J6mym6o3zf+maDg5yHvBeLZ0ns0+4jtrdxMjGr5+Lg7YFQgxnMfhzW/XbfY6f5ZslntCe rI02t/YEew9vOQ4z745kKEGrp9WpneHSkMGS6cyh/Xd/+hc7xNrHJ8nZ359r/Cs+hqsb4Tvtn LI1eyyddVXA71bvVoHVkD39gvFEKE93U80l/+I9vuiKRpQMswRRN/JXy7bervLIU2bN3JitUq 0P+W0JRQdpEqjX2BAwBlWulTeOOAsK9KgzmrjmbTDqSiz59g01axowTmSGw3CfdzuE0ELJryG vM66NU7epMcZx6qBX7BdL+ustFppeta9xvJHcT2TSIxDfKAz5sQ/Yky9ykJZDoENJL9nJYmS0 F54gP5kVR3VG06QI+OeKB89DSXPPXdIodR70tNmS+MqCgoQnOl+b+POtRyF5jUgaMjcGJoN/D +0/Hlwog9MQQEq4yQsoQ0BhjmkwKsDTJAFO4GUjfSemfvfYQBTSmoaqJ9hhI/HLzuLTXg9tM+ fXzV1tolg= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Michael Albinus writes: > Anyway, I kep it on my todo. Perhaps I find something useful to write > next days. Ok - thank you. Michael. 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But >> it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the >> build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. >> >> I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we >> should know (and document), that it could happen. > > If it's important enough, maybe. > > I think "make install" uses chmod to give everyone access to the file > because some files could be owned by root. If that works, why is the > ownership important? Does everyone get write rights, though? If not, how can you run commands like "git clean -fxd" as a regular root after "make install"? From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 21:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.17358519171753 (code B ref 74400); Thu, 02 Jan 2025 21:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Jan 2025 21:05:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46947 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTSNY-0000Ro-Vg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:05:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39084) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTSNW-0000Mv-E0 for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:05:15 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tTSNQ-0000AU-Ow; Thu, 02 Jan 2025 16:05:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=03kN5mfwc6CBa66OqAERns+JFFJrSUDBaXrnzyzSGiU=; b=bJf2AtOtESHE xAtqN/8xPwTptIRjn5vc+2SdCfroEEGtQYDMCJt9dMd9V6o2/1RtwYuY1WP4LmsyMDuTVbBVxDzbR Xn6AlQhQZYludcPE5l42EGwIbfj4iEVBWBj/kibcX+I9KWUhZUgBaXuQJJo8zPY/G68tQr4rz4Wmn CE7zYp87vWGfOTIXv8cs/bLq9gmKXNbsLRGTfM0FmxUJ5DizePAH5F1Z1u9yY4DV4KiBzgcvUaVHl 6FdYqgf9OCyF9jAxGofm2ybTw3sSh1xyY/qZ854HXTIaA7lvZqCYULUJrGleXbsbXHckNfiHYWPxB rBfWG0Wpc1cjOSFBdPyGDw==; Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 23:05:03 +0200 Message-Id: <86ed1lhqps.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:13:31 -0600) References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> <86ed38vh9k.fsf@gnu.org> <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de> <86ldxfte12.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:13:31 -0600 > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Michael Albinus > >> Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org > >> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:09:20 +0100 > >> > >> My example doesn't claim to be the recipe which happened to Michael. But > >> it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the > >> build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. > >> > >> I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we > >> should know (and document), that it could happen. > > > > If it's important enough, maybe. > > > > I think "make install" uses chmod to give everyone access to the file > > because some files could be owned by root. If that works, why is the > > ownership important? > > Does everyone get write rights, though? If not, how can you run > commands like "git clean -fxd" as a regular root after "make install"? Sorry, I don't follow: "make install" writes to the installation directory, and invokes chmod on the files installed there, whereas "git clean -fxd" is run on the Git repository, which is a different directory entirely. What am I missing? 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But >> >> it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the >> >> build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. >> >> >> >> I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we >> >> should know (and document), that it could happen. >> > >> > If it's important enough, maybe. >> > >> > I think "make install" uses chmod to give everyone access to the file >> > because some files could be owned by root. If that works, why is the >> > ownership important? >> >> Does everyone get write rights, though? If not, how can you run >> commands like "git clean -fxd" as a regular root after "make install"? > > Sorry, I don't follow: "make install" writes to the installation > directory, and invokes chmod on the files installed there, whereas > "git clean -fxd" is run on the Git repository, which is a different > directory entirely. What am I missing? AFAIU, the issue here is that "sudo make install" can create root-owned files in the build directory. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 07:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173589094732087 (code B ref 74400); Fri, 03 Jan 2025 07:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Jan 2025 07:55:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49365 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTcX1-0008LQ-H2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:55:47 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35190) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tTcWy-0008LD-VK for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:55:41 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tTcWs-0000YX-8I; Fri, 03 Jan 2025 02:55:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=fgFih57Pv6KLT5O1OJO1NuVJ8HZTLFqXvjgA/NylfeY=; b=e6AHFM8PFZ+K 5iaS5ZJ3T5e2o8kCBPJESj+I8/kkMPc3HpfyEiIY50qPQdSANqJ+iDLDBoH3sFyw5qhJ5eReHnsCq apkARP2mhUEwcqK6WaLBImv0zAhgUlHa8T0QyAhGXGq4ljje5ts7iIbUdJxkq9C/kVdOVexhPlwCt QbTs9WRG7eMoKHAEjv0kO+Jd2nr5xadEbYigAYHGLLac9B85l/fgaWQZDZvISljkd6aInZKUY2PwQ L3dfSaCI/Tdqif5sAbsMOfuE7+miwpr04ZOo7iN9Zwr7rWrx1DIbgho+0Pstp5Zs8GE2tMgIhtZz5 08lhCmZsSBtJf1Lva4q4kQ==; Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2025 09:55:30 +0200 Message-Id: <867c7cib65.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Thu, 2 Jan 2025 15:20:11 -0600) References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87plmtpamy.fsf@web.de> <87y11h6iow.fsf@gmx.de> <86ed38vh9k.fsf@gnu.org> <877c8z8u9r.fsf@gmx.de> <86ldxfte12.fsf@gnu.org> <86ed1lhqps.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 15:20:11 -0600 > Cc: michael.albinus@gmx.de, michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> From: Stefan Kangas > >> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 14:13:31 -0600 > >> Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> > >> >> From: Michael Albinus > >> >> Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org > >> >> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 10:09:20 +0100 > >> >> > >> >> My example doesn't claim to be the recipe which happened to Michael. But > >> >> it shows, that 'sudo make install' could create root-owned files in the > >> >> build dir, and that's what this bug report is about. > >> >> > >> >> I don't know whether it is important enough to change something. But we > >> >> should know (and document), that it could happen. > >> > > >> > If it's important enough, maybe. > >> > > >> > I think "make install" uses chmod to give everyone access to the file > >> > because some files could be owned by root. If that works, why is the > >> > ownership important? > >> > >> Does everyone get write rights, though? If not, how can you run > >> commands like "git clean -fxd" as a regular root after "make install"? > > > > Sorry, I don't follow: "make install" writes to the installation > > directory, and invokes chmod on the files installed there, whereas > > "git clean -fxd" is run on the Git repository, which is a different > > directory entirely. What am I missing? > > AFAIU, the issue here is that "sudo make install" can create root-owned > files in the build directory. That can only happen if one runs "sudo make install" before running "make", i.e. if "make install" finds that some files in the build directory are outdated. 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Perhaps I find something useful to write > next days. What about the appended patch? Best regards, Michael. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL index d2705d3a44d..a8c3cd5a8e6 100644 =2D-- a/INSTALL +++ b/INSTALL @@ -671,6 +671,13 @@ for its Lisp files by giving values for 'make' variab= les as part of the command. See the section below called 'MAKE VARIABLES' for more information on this. +If the directories, 'make install' copies the files to, are not writable +with your own permissions, you might prefer calling 'sudo make install'. +Note, that this command checks the completeness of all needed files; if +there are missing files they will be generated by internal invocations +of 'make'. 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This surely can't harm,yes. I dunno if this is what happened in my case (my habit is "make + sudo make install"), but I don't know where to dig or what could have happened either. Ok. So let me have a look at your patch: > > diff --git a/INSTALL b/INSTALL > index d2705d3a44d..a8c3cd5a8e6 100644 > --- a/INSTALL > +++ b/INSTALL > @@ -671,6 +671,13 @@ for its Lisp files by giving values for 'make' variables as part of > the command. See the section below called 'MAKE VARIABLES' for more > information on this. > > +If the directories, 'make install' copies the files to, are not writable > +with your own permissions, you might prefer calling 'sudo make install'. > +Note, that this command checks the completeness of all needed files; if Something's weird about your commas (or your comma key). I would remove all but the third (after the word "permissions") - Eli may be able to help more. > +there are missing files they will be generated by internal invocations > +of 'make'. In order to avoid files with root ownership in your > +installation directories, you should always call 'make; sudo make install'. Do you really mean "installation directories"? Thx, Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 06:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 74400 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Michael Heerdegen Cc: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, stefankangas@gmail.com Received: via spool by 74400-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B74400.173606014029650 (code B ref 74400); Sun, 05 Jan 2025 06:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 74400) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2025 06:55:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59309 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUKXz-0007iA-LI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 01:55:40 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46500) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUKXv-0007hq-V6 for 74400@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 01:55:38 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tUKXi-0001a7-ED; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 01:55:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=DoCYQ6C9U1625s6D37YrOliMEdjzuI529VW00G8Xnaw=; b=kPR9Ivvuc7k7 UjJEAVwkW5hpEJnp4g/eDwc5v/hxbfJ2PzCP1jJ8d/5uav2myZcldzZpeSdJnyyvUpesYiCQGb82X XDu9r1IagXx9iaLx32cVkjzDT3yOitCmaH4xCCDIHbiVfx4WzVXtbNTIi//yABWfn0eFlZeUXQ/1I VqWDvKSRg5sEQ8Ji7ZSKkt0uKOThT48ioFnXapoedb1Uo+GUSUWaBJoRcnMSyLfEBMJtnZUl8Jz8b ZHwxuR3D3xQxDB4yvtDcezHdBi504csd4OFoVUEOxKd5t7FjnN4e3xniAd6qH66ylH6hz6zVcd6+q x9wsQ6511H9eP0nzpo1zrQ==; Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 08:55:05 +0200 Message-Id: <86ikqtagxi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87y0zqtekm.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sat, 04 Jan 2025 23:11:05 +0100) References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> <87h66hgmba.fsf@gmx.de> <871pxia302.fsf@gmx.de> <87y0zqtekm.fsf@web.de> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 74400@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli > Zaretskii > Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2025 23:11:05 +0100 > > Michael Albinus writes: > > > +If the directories, 'make install' copies the files to, are not writable > > +with your own permissions, you might prefer calling 'sudo make install'. > > +Note, that this command checks the completeness of all needed files; if > > Something's weird about your commas (or your comma key). I would remove > all but the third (after the word "permissions") - Eli may be able to > help more. Is the below better? If the directories where 'make install' installs files are not writable by your user, you might prefer invoking 'sudo make install' instead. Note that this latter command checks whether all the files that are needed for the installation are ready and up-to-date; if there are missing or outdated files, they will be regenerated or rebuilt, and might then be created as owned by root. To avoid creating files with root ownership, you should always invoke 'make && sudo make install' instead. And I have a question: why not suggest to use 'make && sudo make install' to begin with, instead of showing a dangerous command and then explaining why not use it? Like this: If the directories where 'make install' installs files are not writable by your user, you might prefer invoking 'make && sudo make install' instead. This first invokes 'make' to make sure all the required files are rebuilt with your user's permissions and ownership, and then installs them using the permissions of root. 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I would remove > all but the third (after the word "permissions") - Eli may be able to > help more. Something's weird with my English in general. This is known :-( >> +there are missing files they will be generated by internal invocations >> +of 'make'. In order to avoid files with root ownership in your >> +installation directories, you should always call 'make; sudo make install'. > > Do you really mean "installation directories"? Of course not. > Thx, > > Michael. Best regards, Michael. From unknown Sat Aug 16 21:17:16 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Michael Heerdegen Subject: bug#74400: closed (Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root) Message-ID: References: <87o70l8y08.fsf@gmx.de> <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 74400 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 74400@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 08:30:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1736065802-15965-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1736065802-15965-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 74400@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 74400: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D74400 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1736065802-15965-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 74400-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jan 2025 08:29:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59766 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUM0f-00047z-Ka for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 03:29:21 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:54309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1tUM0d-00047l-Cr for 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 03:29:20 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1736065752; x=1736670552; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=NH7TcWX0ie0TY38eUwE1Xo/7erD9OAe2qPDHlkKxODs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=ryt4yAdlz48uZnGBwqli91iJrcJkFxpEz28fDyoj8dXPkW+C8+clQwzaymBrtHJq AONz+oBP035F2z/8nqJz3lGnGQ8K5U9mtlRUF0pVLVbkZeeE+wO/XwT4yZtJwhCOn aXOeYjHDham3VnHxaOnGv5JfKBsuI5CTtXwHWaodpQhRKQjva3ZJernXKEesRK7yd NLbVIc8rWA/ljc5nJfdv3j6Louz6/Y3RLEMdieOB8tIzivXzDkSNA+cgW8FWzrdkd SPYLicerQyHytsOCcEw1p41b1nWuFkBK3r+FpYhgSRQGqzTrLc4vKCLc+vb4MyI79 NuxaE0m+VVOvPPRU5g== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.38.155]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mnpru-1tnnWM2Md0-00qf08; Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:29:12 +0100 From: Michael Albinus To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#74400: 31.0.50; tramp-loaddefs.elc suddenly owned by root In-Reply-To: <86ikqtagxi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2025 08:55:05 +0200") References: <871pz9q1ge.fsf@web.de> <86wmh1vmy0.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmh1oksp.fsf@web.de> <875xol92h1.fsf@gmx.de> <87serpoh2g.fsf@web.de> <87ikqxdy89.fsf@web.de> <87ldvtgr50.fsf@gmx.de> <87seq1m93w.fsf@web.de> <87h66hgmba.fsf@gmx.de> <871pxia302.fsf@gmx.de> <87y0zqtekm.fsf@web.de> <86ikqtagxi.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 09:29:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87o70l8y08.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:iEJlZpr8rBdzvlGalWjBL67OPzuSRoHNLG1Hy2R6ZL5P2/rXxIb aiNqgOo5Uvbo4NVj/FSVeqG5eGZZkDcOpXJAfOn0XgNWzs7/leTe2lhfhOy1W5zuZEbbZiQ QCga6IiHh4+kUDvYY/dsz566F6souZtROxoLvCdFw73Bzlh8aW1wpHnoqfJvoscCYY3CZHx KddoWhtVZ2SD2H9M7GGEw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:P6VVkegl1iY=;CTUJ4jRWjNkJsijc4uIFayCSH5O BBRj3q/qTFMbKrFoa6RjhsxbvhsTU/8yemjwRW2/QXaIT+bMPp5nNcCjWZmdMgp0lQEfyj9TB hvf5XWAB6UrkpOSzVpzSn25u9ulEyfCEzUk9PiC7fBcAzeQX4i0oah9RHk0FWoZPI9B1jJ/Yn /gc+zd+nus7/96g7FvL+i/+m2GQCQiY/PYILcYjBQkmYk7362iTEUd3FLtXLZ77gs460xXWtj LXyKfkCiudTJqTAEk5/tpJ7KqEbObSm0VXpiOZ/Gkr5wuEN9cmnRovD5hGvRa3lpKm+aiiHP8 vW5E6WN9d1oA/3WnueHC2GOOSDPVZWr9prFtm6BHvTZb+xhPM+0iQJss6Jyt5w6xvURaQgYUe Myc32ZgpVfKjKMuUr+HWoAs7JeUQPe5/n8MUHtozQL+EzXoCR52yT5ER9pxdBdaAU8hXngf6Y 2BwayESQwg1ZURWOIM90joRrG6SgFgzdu7+FFAwzmUHJzIXqrDsHSqRbW3emA3t2f53n02eiS VC5y3fR6Tn+qtrSs4obLlulj7Zp2kAEYkylQOavtD21/9Qfs0M11/HNE2uiHwFpWK2VkK7hgD 2+jq/D4R2Ldsqi0OQ1LR/vmShJF1dmEqWHkOvJ3o1Pe1F6L+Srv57iDLDm01gYzXqH1GEGM/y v+M5JjB/jP5NCYKljuvAq0dsCz9LgqqaFDmDtCnwwVdQnfXiiARNWgQQ7QURO6gbDOa8sXHjV FxbTOUO0MBNoB29mbp398sgoEl2S3r1hR0BIwtYuduIWgIhNnJwY7jB8vkw/DYy5ixyNCqUpw ZHcqC/XTTdrTQdioXQSxmHRkAMvVx9yX6SyuXOmOHdL9PbOSymhm92bPFb6Ef2UI7SDVE1Ay+ qA98YdRlzyb8ScLSXnrizLbdHL12o5EKOSauXHG/2FnJnvylVoSNivdzaznqTbtVmEFYRYkI1 gZs7ybOJ1iNbqiQbnKWEPVJV54298fOzmEduVSuWEI4zreA8dZPHlklGjfhYt4YEKY9U2T7E5 B47sBd0wBGKTp241dZEajeLshNDIjhsZKJJDxI19hJKFKOLzQMWN29OLeHLsXdiZ6TSNjz1tx 4wx19rNVQrBjlimRtd8PvRmZIkfFSt X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 74400-done Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 74400-done@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) Version: 30.1 Eli Zaretskii writes: Hi Eli, > And I have a question: why not suggest to use 'make && sudo make > install' to begin with, instead of showing a dangerous command and > then explaining why not use it? Like this: > > If the directories where 'make install' installs files are not > writable by your user, you might prefer invoking 'make && sudo make > install' instead. This first invokes 'make' to make sure all the > required files are rebuilt with your user's permissions and > ownership, and then installs them using the permissions of root. Thanks a lot, I've installed this version. Pushed to emacs-30, and closing the bug. 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Can we maybe prevent this? TIA, Michael In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 24, x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, cairo version 1.16.0) of 2024-11-16 built on drachen Repository revision: 88c6b20cf609cb0b53d1a8ea9db0c35ba77fadb9 Repository branch: master Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.12101007 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) ------------=_1736065802-15965-1--