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30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding

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From: Christopher Howard <christopher <at> librehacker.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2024 06:33:59 -0900

After discussion on the emacs-devel mailing list, Eli requested I put this in as an official feature request on the bug tracker. Current Emacs behavior is that the mode line will display a warning on the mode line for Elisp buffers that are using dynamic binding, which in my theme appears as a red color "/d" through a special face. This is regardless of whether or not dynamic binding has been explicitly chosen in the elisp file. The request would be to disable this warning if dynamic binding was explicitly chosen for the file. I am not certain what exactly is the best way to detect that, but in the elisp manual the recommended method of explicitly chosing dialect is through a file-local declaration of the `lexical-binding' variable.


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Message #8 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
To: Christopher Howard <christopher <at> librehacker.com>, "74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org"
 <74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [External] : bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for
 explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 18:05:02 +0000

+1.
____

The indication in the mode line should be
(1) optional and (2) unobtrusive.

#2: it should just matter-of-factly tell you
what mode the current buffer is in.

This consideration is appropriate regardless
of whether the default in Emacs is (like now)
dynamic binding or (in the future) lexical
binding.

Just let users know what mode the buffer is
in.  And make it easy for users to not show
any such indication, if they like.  Provide
a new mode-line variable for the indication:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Mode-Line-Variables.html

(Such a variable should have been introduced
when the indication was first added...)

Message #11 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams <at> oracle.com>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, eliz <at> gnu.org, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:13:43 -0500

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  > The indication in the mode line should be
  > (1) optional and (2) unobtrusive.

  > #2: it should just matter-of-factly tell you
  > what mode the current buffer is in.

I contend it should be "intrusive" enough to serve as an effective
reminder.

Once dynamic binding becomes unusual, programmers will tend to
assume without conscious doubt that every file uses lexical binding.

So I think that the indicator that this file uses dynamic binding
ought to be somewhat loud, so that users won't overlook it.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #14 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 14:26:51 +0200

> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, eliz <at> gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:13:43 -0500
> 
>   > The indication in the mode line should be
>   > (1) optional and (2) unobtrusive.
> 
>   > #2: it should just matter-of-factly tell you
>   > what mode the current buffer is in.
> 
> I contend it should be "intrusive" enough to serve as an effective
> reminder.
> 
> Once dynamic binding becomes unusual, programmers will tend to
> assume without conscious doubt that every file uses lexical binding.
> 
> So I think that the indicator that this file uses dynamic binding
> ought to be somewhat loud, so that users won't overlook it.

I tend to agree, but only if the file does not already have a
lexical-binding cookie which makes the file use dynamical binding.

Compare this with files that have an unusual encoding or an EOL format
that is not the native one on the current platform: we provide an
indication on the mode line, but don't insist on having it stand out
too much, just a little.

Message #17 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 23:32:10 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

I am sorry it took me so late to see and answer this.

  > > So I think that the indicator that this file uses dynamic binding
  > > ought to be somewhat loud, so that users won't overlook it.

  > I tend to agree, but only if the file does not already have a
  > lexical-binding cookie which makes the file use dynamical binding.

Are you assuming that the person looking at the file
is also the file's author?  In that situation, I would agree:
you don't need to be warned that your file is set to use
dynamic binding if you set it that way yourself.

But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.

  > Compare this with files that have an unusual encoding or an EOL format
  > that is not the native one on the current platform: we provide an
  > indication on the mode line, but don't insist on having it stand out
  > too much, just a little.

Maybe that too should be bolder just because it is so unusual that no
one would be thinking about it.  But I don't feel so strongly about
either of these issues that I would argue about it.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #20 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:20:20 +0200

> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: drew.adams <at> oracle.com, christopher <at> librehacker.com,
> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2024 23:32:10 -0500
> 
>   > > So I think that the indicator that this file uses dynamic binding
>   > > ought to be somewhat loud, so that users won't overlook it.
> 
>   > I tend to agree, but only if the file does not already have a
>   > lexical-binding cookie which makes the file use dynamical binding.
> 
> Are you assuming that the person looking at the file
> is also the file's author?  In that situation, I would agree:
> you don't need to be warned that your file is set to use
> dynamic binding if you set it that way yourself.
> 
> But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
> person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
> binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
> inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.

That could be the case, yes.

However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
"good enough" for person A.  For example, assume that person B is
Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.

I guess which POV is taken depends on whether person A is about to
hack on the file, or wants a seep understanding of its workings, or is
just reading the code?

Message #23 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500

[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

  > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
  > > person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
  > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
  > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.

  > That could be the case, yes.

  > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
  > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
  > "good enough" for person A.

I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally.
"That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B
decided".  In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often
_should_ be good enough for A.

But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to
object to B's decision.  It is whether A is aware of B's decision for
that file.  The warning will help make A aware of it.

                                 For example, assume that person B is
  > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.

I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify
dynamic binding.

-- 
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

Message #26 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: rms <at> gnu.org
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92;
 Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of dynamic binding
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2024 11:40:01 +0200

> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500
> 
>   > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
>   > > person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
>   > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
>   > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.
> 
>   > That could be the case, yes.
> 
>   > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
>   > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
>   > "good enough" for person A.
> 
> I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally.
> "That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B
> decided".  In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often
> _should_ be good enough for A.
> 
> But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to
> object to B's decision.  It is whether A is aware of B's decision for
> that file.  The warning will help make A aware of it.

What I meant was that "good enough" here means A should not be
bothered or made aware.

>                                  For example, assume that person B is
>   > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.
> 
> I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify
> dynamic binding.

I tried to make the point that whether it is useful depends on the
POV.

Message #29 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, rms <at> gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of
 dynamic binding
Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:05:02 -0600

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
>> Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
>> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500
>>
>>   > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
>>   > > person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
>>   > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
>>   > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.
>>
>>   > That could be the case, yes.
>>
>>   > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
>>   > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
>>   > "good enough" for person A.
>>
>> I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally.
>> "That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B
>> decided".  In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often
>> _should_ be good enough for A.
>>
>> But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to
>> object to B's decision.  It is whether A is aware of B's decision for
>> that file.  The warning will help make A aware of it.
>
> What I meant was that "good enough" here means A should not be
> bothered or made aware.
>
>>                                  For example, assume that person B is
>>   > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.
>>
>> I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify
>> dynamic binding.
>
> I tried to make the point that whether it is useful depends on the
> POV.

FWIW, I think Richard's argument here is convincing, so I'd personally
lean towards closing this bug as wontfix.

Message #32 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, rms <at> gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of
 dynamic binding
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 08:16:57 +0200

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:05:02 -0600
> Cc: rms <at> gnu.org, christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com, 
> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org>
> >> Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
> >> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 23:54:25 -0500
> >>
> >>   > > But I think it is useful to show this warning when person A looks at
> >>   > > person B's file.  Person A is likely to assume the file use lexical
> >>   > > binding, when just about all files do so; therefore, it is useful to
> >>   > > inform A that this file makes the unusual choice.
> >>
> >>   > That could be the case, yes.
> >>
> >>   > However, another way of looking at such situation is that if the
> >>   > author (person B) decided the file should use dynamic scoping, that's
> >>   > "good enough" for person A.
> >>
> >> I think this sentence may have changed the question unintentionally.
> >> "That's good enough for A" means "A should not object to what B
> >> decided".  In that sense, think B's addition of he file variable often
> >> _should_ be good enough for A.
> >>
> >> But the question we were discussing is not whether A has a right to
> >> object to B's decision.  It is whether A is aware of B's decision for
> >> that file.  The warning will help make A aware of it.
> >
> > What I meant was that "good enough" here means A should not be
> > bothered or made aware.
> >
> >>                                  For example, assume that person B is
> >>   > Emacs maintainers, and the file is part of Emacs.
> >>
> >> I think it will be useful to warn A that the file is set up to specify
> >> dynamic binding.
> >
> > I tried to make the point that whether it is useful depends on the
> > POV.
> 
> FWIW, I think Richard's argument here is convincing, so I'd personally
> lean towards closing this bug as wontfix.

I don't mind.

Message #35 received at 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: christopher <at> librehacker.com, rms <at> gnu.org, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
 74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74261: 30.0.92; Remove modeline warning for explicit uses of
 dynamic binding
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 00:49:35 -0600

tags 74261 + wontfix
close 74261
thanks

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2025 20:05:02 -0600
>> Cc: rms <at> gnu.org, christopher <at> librehacker.com, drew.adams <at> oracle.com,
>> 	74261 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
>>
>> FWIW, I think Richard's argument here is convincing, so I'd personally
>> lean towards closing this bug as wontfix.
>
> I don't mind.

Thanks, now done.

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