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 --_000_2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27WTXCPEXCLS1corp_-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 17 13:08:34 2010 Received: (at 7424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2010 18:08:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PImQs-0003hk-I8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:08:34 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PImQp-0003hf-Gl for 7424@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:08:32 -0500 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAHIDXIL017764 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:13:33 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.134] (ovpn-113-134.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.134]) by int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAHIDWRY018492; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:13:32 -0500 Message-ID: <4CE41B4C.60900@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:13:32 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101103 Fedora/1.0-0.33.b2pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Parsons, Larry" Subject: Re: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 References: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> In-Reply-To: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig618BB47E5AE24E41EB4D9224" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.11 X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7424 Cc: 7424@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig618BB47E5AE24E41EB4D9224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11/17/2010 07:55 AM, Parsons, Larry wrote: [not much] > ________________________________ > This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, In general, it is considered poor netiquette to send an email to a publicly archived list with a disclaimer that cannot be enforced. Furthermore, when you don't have any meaningful text other than your subject line, without giving any indication that you intended your subject line to be the body of the message, it creates a rather high spam score that makes your message more likely to be discarded. You didn't describe "doesn't work" very well for use to diagnose your problem. Listing an actual session of what you typed, what you got, and what you expected, would go a long way to making this a more meaningful bug report. But my ESP senses are working overtime today, so I'm going to guess: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Old-tail-plus-N-syntax-now-fai= ls You're probably trying to do 'tail +1 file', when you should instead be doing 'tail -n +1 file' (not quite the tail -n you mentioned in your subject line). --=20 Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --------------enig618BB47E5AE24E41EB4D9224 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJM5BtMAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqOhsH/ifLhAyVBFDINEx9vomuvirf fUgzKdHcLVof2gR4j7TN6iq16ZE1tiRy6Wpqu/uUCY3N+LjQKU3w1O9D8HVP6CbG R/wA1Si5nGuZyObqLSERm8Q2P4ahkW7f2yi/eE4Z3GyUyG7vWgTJ2U2RXQe0guf9 vo1Jgz76p7TclNTFCVMVhidJrN8kaXqgz7kAADlkWERWYSYv3VPQ59mI34FQkSl3 I/TIIgX1Yx2N9HGQ2MUwMnzKNMuNPQxiKtSM612V1pvqKIh/Bis1ESSUzfTqCxoA un/Vv7dBJnsJ4ZqIHXkFHclz1X3MHg/BvYajM9mkD7tuIdJLVfueeTWSdJHwFIY= =qf/T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig618BB47E5AE24E41EB4D9224-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 17 13:59:53 2010 Received: (at 7424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2010 18:59:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PInEX-00045F-3r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:59:53 -0500 Received: from exprod6og104.obsmtp.com ([64.18.1.187]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PInCl-00044D-J4 for 7424@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:58:04 -0500 Received: from source ([66.236.147.54]) (using TLSv1) by exprod6ob104.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKTOQm6JEEBjdfUJixHh6y1v2YXVRnWTCZ@postini.com; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:03:11 PST Received: from gslbtxdns1 (HELO wtxcorphubp02.corp.epsilon.com) ([159.127.118.180]) by ptxcprelay1.epsilon.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 17 Nov 2010 13:03:04 -0600 Received: from WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com ([159.127.126.82]) by wtxcorphubp02.corp.epsilon.com ([159.127.126.60]) with mapi; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:03:04 -0600 From: "Parsons, Larry" To: 'Eric Blake' Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:03:03 -0600 Subject: RE: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 Thread-Topic: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 Thread-Index: AcuGgyp1DRJevOuCSPq1TaabEYI7bgABV9FA Message-ID: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C30@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> References: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> <4CE41B4C.60900@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4CE41B4C.60900@redhat.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -5.6 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7424 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 13:59:51 -0500 Cc: "7424@debbugs.gnu.org" <7424@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) Eric, All, I just went to another box and entered in the command that you said shouldn= 't work. It works just the way you said it shouldn't. Oh, and guess what th= e help page is identical. Oh, and guess what I have never sent an email to = this address before, and I didn't realize it was a public forum. However I = did copy everyone you did. So in my way of thinking about it, it was either wrong then or now. Please = feel free to repond and teach me about netiquette while you just lack any k= ind of etiquette. Have a nice day. $ tail --help Usage: tail [OPTION]... [FILE]... Print the last 10 lines of each FILE to standard output. With more than one FILE, precede each with a header giving the file name. With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input. Mandatory arguments to long options are mandatory for short options too. --retry keep trying to open a file even if it is inaccessible when tail starts or if it becomes inaccessible later -- useful only with -f -c, --bytes=3DN output the last N bytes -f, --follow[=3D{name|descriptor}] output appended data as the file grows; -f, --follow, and --follow=3Ddescriptor are equivalent -F same as --follow=3Dname --retry -n, --lines=3DN output the last N lines, instead of the last 1= 0 --max-unchanged-stats=3DN with --follow=3Dname, reopen a FILE which has no= t changed size after N (default 5) iterations to see if it has been unlinked or renamed (this is the usual case of rotated log files) --pid=3DPID with -f, terminate after process ID, PID dies -q, --quiet, --silent never output headers giving file names -s, --sleep-interval=3DS with -f, sleep for approximately S seconds (default 1.0) between iterations. -v, --verbose always output headers giving file names --help display this help and exit --version output version information and exit If the first character of N (the number of bytes or lines) is a `+', print beginning with the Nth item from the start of each file, otherwise, print the last N items in the file. N may have a multiplier suffix: b 512, k 1024, m 1024*1024. With --follow (-f), tail defaults to following the file descriptor, which means that even if a tail'ed file is renamed, tail will continue to track its end. This default behavior is not desirable when you really want to track the actual name of the file, not the file descriptor (e.g., log rotation). Use --follow=3Dname in that case. That causes tail to track th= e named file by reopening it periodically to see if it has been removed and recreated by some other program. Report bugs to . $ cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.9-78.0.22.ELsmp (mockbuild@ls20-bc2-13.build.redhat.com) = (gcc version 3.4.6 20060404 (Red Hat 3.4.6-10)) #1 SMP Fri Apr 24 12:48:19 = EDT 2009 -----Original Message----- From: Eric Blake [mailto:eblake@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:14 PM To: Parsons, Larry Cc: 7424@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 On 11/17/2010 07:55 AM, Parsons, Larry wrote: [not much] > ________________________________ > This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, In general, it is considered poor netiquette to send an email to a publicly= archived list with a disclaimer that cannot be enforced. Furthermore, when you don't have any meaningful text other than your subjec= t line, without giving any indication that you intended your subject line t= o be the body of the message, it creates a rather high spam score that make= s your message more likely to be discarded. You didn't describe "doesn't work" very well for use to diagnose your probl= em. Listing an actual session of what you typed, what you got, and what yo= u expected, would go a long way to making this a more meaningful bug report= . But my ESP senses are working overtime today, so I'm going to guess: http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Old-tail-plus-N-syntax-now-fails You're probably trying to do 'tail +1 file', when you should instead be doi= ng 'tail -n +1 file' (not quite the tail -n you mentioned in your subject l= ine). -- Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org This e-mail and files transmitted with it are confidential, and are intende= d solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom this e-mail is add= ressed. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent res= ponsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified t= hat any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is str= ictly prohibited. If you are not one of the named recipient(s) or otherwise= have reason to believe that you received this message in error, please imm= ediately notify sender by e-mail, and destroy the original message. Thank Y= ou. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Nov 17 14:14:22 2010 Received: (at 7424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Nov 2010 19:14:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PInSX-0004BS-OF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:14:22 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PInSV-0004BJ-4p for 7424@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:14:20 -0500 Received: from int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id oAHJJK90009919 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:19:20 -0500 Received: from [10.3.113.134] (ovpn-113-134.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.113.134]) by int-mx10.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id oAHJJJen028840; Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:19:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4CE42AB7.1080602@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:19:19 -0700 From: Eric Blake Organization: Red Hat User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101103 Fedora/1.0-0.33.b2pre.fc14 Lightning/1.0b3pre Mnenhy/0.8.3 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Parsons, Larry" Subject: Re: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 References: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> <4CE41B4C.60900@redhat.com> <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C30@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> In-Reply-To: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C30@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig5D877537A470DB25D906F8C8" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.23 X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7424 Cc: "7424@debbugs.gnu.org" <7424@debbugs.gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.2 (----------) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig5D877537A470DB25D906F8C8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [as another netiquette tip: please don't top-post on technical lists] On 11/17/2010 12:03 PM, Parsons, Larry wrote: > Eric, All, >=20 > I just went to another box and entered in the command that you said sho= uldn't work. It works just the way you said it shouldn't. Please, so that we can have some idea of what you are seeing, include an example of what you typed, what happened, and what you wanted to have happen. You _still_ haven't told us what you think is a bug, so we _still_ don't have any idea how to help you, other than to point you to FAQ that may or may not be relevant to your situation. We do appreciate the time you've taken to try and report something, but there are some steps you could take to make your request go a lot further= : http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html Here's an example report that would qualify as more informative: "I reduced things down to this simple testcase: $ printf 'a\nb\n' | tail -1 b but since I didn't type the POSIX 2008 spelling of: tail -n -1 I was surprised that it did the same thing by printing the last line instead of being a syntax error" > and I didn't realize it was a public forum. Most bug reporting emails are publicly archived; and it's always safer to start from that assumption. > However I did copy everyone you did. Ah, but my email didn't have an unenforceable disclaimer tacked on by my employer. > Please feel free to repond and teach me about netiquette while you just= lack any kind of etiquette. My original reply was terse to match the terseness of your original report. I'm sorry if my reply unintentionally came across as harsh or demeaning; that certainly was not my intent, and the text-only medium of email lacks emotion and tone of voice that convey the rest of the meaning behind a spoken message. Whether or not I'm always successful at my attempts to be polite may be another matter, but you may feel free to take that up with me off-list if you have suggestions for how I could improve in my interpersonal skills. --=20 Eric Blake eblake@redhat.com +1-801-349-2682 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --------------enig5D877537A470DB25D906F8C8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJM5Cq3AAoJEKeha0olJ0Nqb5YIAKFBz2qbzo3OlW+WzU8QH2rX 08Rlk5oqykGoiHAc3/ZzK0KspqQLdyMEibxE4MJNoSe5pEVQCG8Q71+IbBAqOlc6 k+YjBkWwC8uFC0sy1KIpZjKZAcXe2aOF8K+118iEcIQBBfj9aFLne+CRfIY5gIFq oxN/3j2uEgK6Zs14ZTcBvjkpSlwGB8mA4X9FoodqTAdf5HcRoEv0QYTHNQNNVf1G RKUjZC+g7k/2VfJ73dW6g1G7mIgXpEUnySf+nFIFqdfO7RXFSDPOLPlq9RGPKlGb 9Gy9yOBLhxZ9O6KnP/VarD7Y/PxnnCtSa+kWM/xsAIHkos4Zrrd6leZy0GSZX/k= =UrMm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig5D877537A470DB25D906F8C8-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jul 22 18:19:40 2011 Received: (at 7424) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jul 2011 22:19:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QkO4J-0007JB-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:19:40 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QkO4H-0007Iz-Sp for 7424@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:19:38 -0400 Received: from rho.meyering.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister) with ESMTP id 1FF1D6006C; Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:19:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering To: Eric Blake Subject: Re: bug#7424: Tail -n doesn't work on Red-Hat Linux 5.5 In-Reply-To: <4CE42AB7.1080602@redhat.com> (Eric Blake's message of "Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:19:19 -0700") References: <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C27@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> <4CE41B4C.60900@redhat.com> <2C804FFC4C988F40B92BB3694DFDDA1AA1B85C30@WTXCPEXCLS1.corp.epsilon.com> <4CE42AB7.1080602@redhat.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:19:32 +0200 Message-ID: <871uxi556z.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 65 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 7424 Cc: "7424@debbugs.gnu.org" <7424@debbugs.gnu.org>, "Parsons, Larry" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -6.1 (------) tags 7424 + notabug close 7424 thanks Eric Blake wrote: > [as another netiquette tip: please don't top-post on technical lists] > > On 11/17/2010 12:03 PM, Parsons, Larry wrote: >> Eric, All, >> >> I just went to another box and entered in the command that you said >> shouldn't work. It works just the way you said it shouldn't. > > Please, so that we can have some idea of what you are seeing, include an > example of what you typed, what happened, and what you wanted to have > happen. You _still_ haven't told us what you think is a bug, so we > _still_ don't have any idea how to help you, other than to point you to > FAQ that may or may not be relevant to your situation. > > We do appreciate the time you've taken to try and report something, but > there are some steps you could take to make your request go a lot further: > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html > > Here's an example report that would qualify as more informative: > > "I reduced things down to this simple testcase: > > $ printf 'a\nb\n' | tail -1 > b > > but since I didn't type the POSIX 2008 spelling of: > > tail -n -1 > > I was surprised that it did the same thing by printing the last line > instead of being a syntax error" > >> and I didn't realize it was a public forum. > > Most bug reporting emails are publicly archived; and it's always safer > to start from that assumption. > >> However I did copy everyone you did. > > Ah, but my email didn't have an unenforceable disclaimer tacked on by my > employer. > >> Please feel free to repond and teach me about netiquette while you >> just lack any kind of etiquette. > > My original reply was terse to match the terseness of your original > report. I'm sorry if my reply unintentionally came across as harsh or > demeaning; that certainly was not my intent, and the text-only medium of > email lacks emotion and tone of voice that convey the rest of the > meaning behind a spoken message. Whether or not I'm always successful > at my attempts to be polite may be another matter, but you may feel free > to take that up with me off-list if you have suggestions for how I could > improve in my interpersonal skills. Due to the lack of actual details, I assume this wasn't a real problem. Larry, if you can provide evidence of a problem, please simply reply and we'll investigate. In the mean time, I'm closing this as "not a bug". From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 13 10:38:54 2011 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2011 14:38:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3U8U-0003M5-Dv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:38:54 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3U8R-0003Lx-RM for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:38:53 -0400 Received: from int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.12]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p8DEYNtx012348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:34:24 -0400 Received: from mx.meyering.net (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by int-mx02.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p8DEYMBX010597 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 10:34:23 -0400 Received: from rho.meyering.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister) with ESMTP id 3C85C6004E for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:34:22 +0200 (CEST) From: Jim Meyering To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: really close it, this time Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:34:22 +0200 Message-ID: <87y5xszf2p.fsf@rho.meyering.net> Lines: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.67 on 10.5.11.12 X-Spam-Score: -10.5 (----------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -10.5 (----------) tags 7424 + notabug close 7424 thanks From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:41:47 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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