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29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every docker container on remote hosts

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From: Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every docker container on
 remote hosts
Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2024 19:34:02 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

I need to access some number of similarly named docker containers on
different remote hosts. For example I run

cd "/<ssh:host1|docker:container_name:/>"

in eshell, run some commands there, then I may run

cd "/<ssh:host2|docker:container_name:/>"

and run some commands there, etc. Emacs lisp functions (like cd, ls,
find-file, dired, etc) work as expected, but when I run some executable
there (bash, python, etc) it always connects to the same host no matter
what I specified in "cd" command previously. The workaround to make
things work is to run

(setq tramp-default-proxies-alist nil)

before switching to different host.


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Message #8 received at 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74219: 29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every
 docker container on remote hosts
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2024 19:48:35 +0100

Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hi Artem,

your subject isn't correct. True is "Tramp uses the same ad-hoc proxy
for every docker container with the same name on remote hosts".

> I need to access some number of similarly named docker containers on
> different remote hosts. For example I run
>
> cd "/ssh:host1|docker:container_name:/"
>
> in eshell, run some commands there, then I may run
>
> cd "/ssh:host2|docker:container_name:/"
>
> and run some commands there, etc. Emacs lisp functions (like cd, ls,
> find-file, dired, etc) work as expected, but when I run some
> executable
> there (bash, python, etc) it always connects to the same host no
> matter
> what I specified in "cd" command previously. The workaround to make
> things work is to run
>
> (setq tramp-default-proxies-alist nil)
>
> before switching to different host.

That's not possible with Tramp. Not with the current design. The proxy
definitions are kept internally, and they apply in reverse order of
their appearance in the remote file names.

After you have accessed "/ssh:host1|docker:container_name:", Tramp
caches the information, that the remote host "/docker:container_name:"
is reachable via "/ssh:host1:". You can even use the short form
"/docker:container_name:" now, and Tramp remembers the hops.

When you give a different multi-hop remote file name, like
"/ssh:host2|docker:container_name:", Tramp parses from the end, and it
detects, that it should use the hop "/ssh:host1:" as proxy. No further
check. That's why you see the observed behavior.

One could argue that this is an error. I'm not so sure, it is rather a
consequence of the design. Proxy declarations were introduced in Tramp by
means of configuring tramp-default-proxies-alist. This list is organized
to detect proxy hops by starting with the final, target host, and adding
the proxies to pass in order to reach that target. People found the
configuration of that user option too complex, and that's why ad-hoc
multi-hop remote file names have been added years later. But the
principle has been kept.

One possible mitigation is to set tramp-default-proxies-alist to nil
before using different ad-hoc multi-hop file names. However, this is too
drastic in my mind, because you will lose *all* specifications there,
even for other multi-hops.

Another, and better, solution is to use different target names. Do you
need to give the containers the very same name "container_name" on both
"host1" and "host2"? If you would give them different names, the problem
doesn't exist.

Best regards, Michael.

Message #11 received at 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74219: 29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every
 docker container on remote hosts
Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2024 10:40:37 +0100

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> writes:

Hi Artem,

> That's not possible with Tramp. Not with the current design. The proxy
> definitions are kept internally, and they apply in reverse order of
> their appearance in the remote file names.

I've checked the implementation, and it looks like adding this feature
is not as expensive as I thought. So I have implemented it. Pushed to
both Emacs and Tramp git repo, master branch.

The Tramp manual has a new subsection "5.4.1 Using different proxies for
the same destination" which explains this. In short, you must set
tramp-show-ad-hoc-proxies to t.

Do you have a chance to test it?

Best regards, Michael.

Message #14 received at 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
Cc: 74219 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74219: 29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every
 docker container on remote hosts
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 12:51:53 +0200

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Hi Michael,

Thank you a lot! I will test it today or tomorrow.

On Sat, Nov 9 2024 at 10:40:37 AM +01:00:00, Michael Albinus 
<michael.albinus <at> gmx.de> wrote:
> Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de 
> <mailto:michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>> writes:
> 
> Hi Artem,
> 
>>  That's not possible with Tramp. Not with the current design. The 
>> proxy
>>  definitions are kept internally, and they apply in reverse order of
>>  their appearance in the remote file names.
> 
> I've checked the implementation, and it looks like adding this feature
> is not as expensive as I thought. So I have implemented it. Pushed to
> both Emacs and Tramp git repo, master branch.
> 
> The Tramp manual has a new subsection "5.4.1 Using different proxies 
> for
> the same destination" which explains this. In short, you must set
> tramp-show-ad-hoc-proxies to t.
> 
> Do you have a chance to test it?
> 
> Best regards, Michael.

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Message #19 received at 74219-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus <at> gmx.de>
To: Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 74219-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#74219: 29.4; TRAMP uses the same ad-hoc proxy for every
 docker container on remote hosts
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 13:27:42 +0100

Version: 31.1

Artem Smushkov <artyom.smushkov <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Michael,

Hi Artem,

> Sorry for a long delay, had much busier days then I expected. I tested
> it in emacs built from master git branch, it works perfectly! Thank
> you a lot!

Thanks for the feedback. I'm closing the bug, therefore.

Best regards, Michael.

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