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Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2024 20:43:38 +0200

MELPA (and MELPA Stable) still distribute old versions of hierarchy.el
from https://github.com/DamienCassou/hierarchy/.

It seems wise to remove the package from MELPA, to avoid that users
"upgrade" to an ancient version.

Message #8 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>, 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 17:56:56 +0200

Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:

> MELPA (and MELPA Stable) still distribute old versions of hierarchy.el
> from https://github.com/DamienCassou/hierarchy/.
>
> It seems wise to remove the package from MELPA, to avoid that users
> "upgrade" to an ancient version.


I'm ok with that but I don't know how to do it.


-- 
Damien Cassou

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

Message #11 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 03:47:54 -0400

tags 73823 notabug
close 73823
thanks

Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:

> MELPA (and MELPA Stable) still distribute old versions of hierarchy.el
> from https://github.com/DamienCassou/hierarchy/.
>
> It seems wise to remove the package from MELPA, to avoid that users
> "upgrade" to an ancient version.

Hi,

okay but this is not an Emacs nor Elpa bug.

Thanks

  Andrea

Message #18 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 10:15:49 +0200

On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 9:47 AM Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org> wrote:

> okay but this is not an Emacs nor Elpa bug.

True, at least from the perspective of who is to blame (which I don't
think matters). But someone who cares about the package – and those
people are presumably reachable in this mailing list – should ask
MELPA to remove it from their archive. This is true every time some
package makes it into Emacs and stops being developed at its original
place. There's no way MELPA could magically find out about it.

Message #21 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org>
To: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 04:52:50 -0400

Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 9:47 AM Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> okay but this is not an Emacs nor Elpa bug.
>
> True, at least from the perspective of who is to blame (which I don't
> think matters). But someone who cares about the package – and those
> people are presumably reachable in this mailing list – should ask
> MELPA to remove it from their archive. This is true every time some
> package makes it into Emacs and stops being developed at its original
> place. There's no way MELPA could magically find out about it.

Hi Augusto, I'm not against keep on discussing that on the list and you
can Cc whoever you think is useful, I just tagged the bug as "notabug"
and closed it as it's just not an Emacs bug :)

AFAIU there's noting we can do here to fix that, opening a PR to MELPA
is just the right thing to do for the ecosystem.

BR

  Andrea

Message #24 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 11:55:35 +0200

On Sat, 26 Oct 2024 at 04:52, Andrea Corallo wrote:

> Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 9:47 AM Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>> okay but this is not an Emacs nor Elpa bug.
>>
>> True, at least from the perspective of who is to blame (which I don't
>> think matters). But someone who cares about the package – and those
>> people are presumably reachable in this mailing list – should ask
>> MELPA to remove it from their archive. This is true every time some
>> package makes it into Emacs and stops being developed at its original
>> place. There's no way MELPA could magically find out about it.
>
> Hi Augusto, I'm not against keep on discussing that on the list and you
> can Cc whoever you think is useful, I just tagged the bug as "notabug"
> and closed it as it's just not an Emacs bug :)

Makes sense, thanks for the clarification :-).

> AFAIU there's noting we can do here to fix that, opening a PR to MELPA
> is just the right thing to do for the ecosystem.
>
> BR
>
>   Andrea

Message #27 received at 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Damien Cassou <damien <at> cassou.me>
To: Andrea Corallo <acorallo <at> gnu.org>, Augusto Stoffel <arstoffel <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 73823 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#73823: Old version of hierarchy.el still distributed by MELPA
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2024 13:44:36 +0200

I've opened https://github.com/melpa/melpa/pull/9222 to remove hierarchy
from melpa.

-- 
Damien Cassou

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without
losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

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