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24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank

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From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 17:17:57 +0900

I don't recall it's been happening since when, but there's no text
in lucid menu bar.  It may be due to Fedora 14 to which I upgraded
recently.  Only workaround I know is to set LC_ALL C when launching
Emacs.  Any idea?

Thanks.

In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2010-11-12 on pastis
Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10901000
configured using `configure  '--verbose' '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--without-xim''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: ja_JP.UTF-8
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: C
  value of $LC_MONETARY: C
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: C
  value of $LC_TIME: C
  value of $LANG: C
  value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Message #8 received at 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
Cc: 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7382: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 14:21:11 +0100

Do not remove information from emacs-report-bug.
Did you try from emacs -Q?  Try unsetting XMODIFIERS before starting Emacs.
You compiled --without-xim but it seems you are using an input manager, was 
that on purpose?  Are you using Compiz, metacity or something else?

	Jan D.


Katsumi Yamaoka skrev 2010-11-12 09.17:
> I don't recall it's been happening since when, but there's no text
> in lucid menu bar.  It may be due to Fedora 14 to which I upgraded
> recently.  Only workaround I know is to set LC_ALL C when launching
> Emacs.  Any idea?
>
> Thanks.
>
> In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
>   of 2010-11-12 on pastis
> Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10901000
> configured using `configure  '--verbose' '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--without-xim''
>
> Important settings:
>    value of $LC_ALL: nil
>    value of $LC_COLLATE: C
>    value of $LC_CTYPE: ja_JP.UTF-8
>    value of $LC_MESSAGES: C
>    value of $LC_MONETARY: C
>    value of $LC_NUMERIC: C
>    value of $LC_TIME: C
>    value of $LANG: C
>    value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
>    locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>    default enable-multibyte-characters: t
>
>

Message #11 received at 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7382: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:44:39 +0900

Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> wrote:
> Do not remove information from emacs-report-bug.
> Did you try from emacs -Q?

Yes, I tried it of course.

> Try unsetting XMODIFIERS before starting Emacs.

Its value is "@im=ibus".  Unsetting it does not help.

> You compiled --without-xim but it seems you are using an input
> manager, was that on purpose?

That's on purpose.  I use sj3-egg[1], an ELisp package, that's
an interface to the sj3 server, for writing Japanese text.

> Are you using Compiz, metacity or something else?

I use metacity.

Thanks.
Regards,

[1] ftp://ftp.jpl.org/pub/elisp/sj3-egg-0.8.2.tar.gz

> Katsumi Yamaoka skrev 2010-11-12 09.17:
>> I don't recall it's been happening since when, but there's no text
>> in lucid menu bar.  It may be due to Fedora 14 to which I upgraded
>> recently.  Only workaround I know is to set LC_ALL C when launching
>> Emacs.  Any idea?

>> Thanks.

>> In GNU Emacs 24.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
>>   of 2010-11-12 on pastis
>> Windowing system distributor `Fedora Project', version 11.0.10901000
>> configured using `configure  '--verbose' '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--without-xim''

>> Important settings:
>>    value of $LC_ALL: nil
>>    value of $LC_COLLATE: C
>>    value of $LC_CTYPE: ja_JP.UTF-8
>>    value of $LC_MESSAGES: C
>>    value of $LC_MONETARY: C
>>    value of $LC_NUMERIC: C
>>    value of $LC_TIME: C
>>    value of $LANG: C
>>    value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus
>>    locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix
>>    default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Message #14 received at 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
To: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
Cc: 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7382: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 16:47:38 +0100

Katsumi Yamaoka skrev 2010-11-12 15.44:
> Jan Djärv<jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>  wrote:
>> Do not remove information from emacs-report-bug.
>> Did you try from emacs -Q?
>
> Yes, I tried it of course.
>
>> Try unsetting XMODIFIERS before starting Emacs.
>
> Its value is "@im=ibus".  Unsetting it does not help.
>
>> You compiled --without-xim but it seems you are using an input
>> manager, was that on purpose?
>
> That's on purpose.  I use sj3-egg[1], an ELisp package, that's
> an interface to the sj3 server, for writing Japanese text.
>
>> Are you using Compiz, metacity or something else?
>
> I use metacity.
>
> Thanks.
> Regards,
>

I installed Fedora 14 and compiled Emacs with the same configure options.
The menus are fine over here.

Can you try starting emacs with -xrm '*faceName: none'?  It could be a font 
problem.

	Jan D.

Message #17 received at 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: 7382 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7382: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:56:26 +0900

Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> wrote:
> I installed Fedora 14 and compiled Emacs with the same configure options.

Thank you for verifying it.

> The menus are fine over here.

What font does `emacs -Q' choose for the `menu' face?  I got:

(face-font 'menu)
"-unknown-DejaVu Sans Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1"

Though Emacs 24 displays no item text in menu, the font is the same
as the one that `emacs-23.2 -Q' chooses and it displays item texts
in menu.  Furthermore the following works in Emacs 23.2 but not in
Emacs 24.0.50:

(set-face-font
 'menu
 "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--17-120-100-100-p-92-iso8859-1")

> Can you try starting emacs with -xrm '*faceName: none'?

It makes the menu bar display item texts properly with `emacs -Q'.
The result of (face-font 'menu) doesn't differ though.

> It could be a font problem.

Hmm...

Message #22 received at 7382-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se>
Cc: 7382-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#7382: 24.0.50; lucid menu bar is all blank
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 15:14:23 +0900

Closed this thread since it doesn't seem to be a bug.

Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> Jan Djärv <jan.h.d <at> swipnet.se> wrote:
[...]
>> Can you try starting emacs with -xrm '*faceName: none'?

> It makes the menu bar display item texts properly with `emacs -Q'.

I guess something has changed in Emacs trunk just before I upgraded
Fedora into 14 in October 25.  But that's ok.  After a long time
I created the ~/.Xdefaults file with these two items:

Emacs.pane.menubar.faceName:	none
Emacs.pane.dialog.faceName:	none

I had no X resource for Emacs for over ten years because:

1. I'd like to use a true vanilla Emacs when testing something.
2. Some X resources conflicted between Emacs and XEmacs.
3. Most things can be controlled with ELisp.

So, I'd be happy if there are ELisp interfaces to those faceName
items, including (set-face-font 'menu "FONT") that works. :)

Regards,

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