From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:42:48 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#73777 <73777@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#73777 <73777@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts Reply-To: bug#73777 <73777@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:42:48 +0000 retitle 73777 set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters wh= en using some fonts reassign 73777 emacs submitter 73777 Rodrigo Morales severity 73777 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 12 15:11:15 2024 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2024 19:11:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58202 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szhWE-0004dS-GP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:11:15 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:50494) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szhWB-0004dD-JU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:11:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szhVv-00068a-0a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:10:55 -0400 Received: from smtpout1.mo12.mail-out.ovh.ca ([51.161.45.254]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szhVs-0003Dp-Fi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:10:54 -0400 Received: from mxplan1.mail.ovh.ca (unknown [10.111.58.232]) by mo12.mail-out.ovh.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XQtPF6PMgzHpyn for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 16:10:41 -0300 (ADT) Received: from morales.pe (54.39.251.56) by DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1544.11; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 15:10:40 -0400 Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-94B00189e05b76-c5dd-4c87-9210-2adb80bb89cc, DC706FC122992686D0CB77DC8ED9B16C5FEDDAA5) smtp.auth=rodrigo-mailing-lists@morales.pe X-OVh-ClientIp: 181.65.25.6 From: Rodrigo Morales To: Subject: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:10:25 -0500 Message-ID: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [54.39.251.56] X-ClientProxiedBy: DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) To DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) X-Ovh-Tracer-GUID: 4c436b64-1a25-4dac-9fd0-416874724dfd X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 14533397476568765975 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: 0 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvdeguddgudefgecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecunecujfgurhephffvufffkfggtgfgihesthhqredttddtjeenucfhrhhomheptfhoughrihhgohcuofhorhgrlhgvshcuoehrohgurhhighhoqdhmrghilhhinhhgqdhlihhsthhssehmohhrrghlvghsrdhpvgeqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepledvtdegvdevteekheegueevgfdtiefghfegjeeiuefggeehheetgfevhffgleetnecuffhomhgrihhnpegrrhgthhhivhgvrdhishdprghrtghhihhvvgdrphhhnecukfhppeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdehgedrfeelrddvhedurdehiedpudekuddrieehrddvhedrieenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhoughrihhgohdqmhgrihhlihhnghdqlhhishhtshesmhhorhgrlhgvshdrphgvpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedupdhrtghpthhtohepsghughdqghhnuhdqvghmrggtshesghhnuhdrohhrghdpoffvtefjohhsthepmhhouddvpdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuth Received-SPF: pass client-ip=51.161.45.254; envelope-from=rodrigo-mailing-lists@morales.pe; helo=smtpout1.mo12.mail-out.ovh.ca X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I am using GNU Emacs 29.4 in Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS. Today, I was trying to change the font size for the character =3D=E2=80=9C= =3D (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) using the sexp shown below. I noti= ced an inconsistency: that sexp only sets the size for the character =3D=E2= =80=9C=3D when specific fonts are used. #+BEGIN_SRC elisp (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50= )) #+END_SRC In the section below, I describe minimal reproducible experiments. In the e= xperiments, I use the file =3D/tmp/a.txt=3D containing the contents of the = code block below: #+HEADER: :tangle /tmp/a.txt #+BEGIN_SRC text a =E2=80=9C b #+END_SRC ** Experiment 1 (:size for #x201C is not set): Set :size for #x201C I started Emacs using the command shown below: #+HEADER: :eval no #+BEGIN_SRC sh ./src/emacs -Q /tmp/a.txt #+END_SRC The code block below shows the font reported for each character by calling = =3Dwhat-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screenshot: https://arch= ive.is/9LxOH #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x44) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0= -iso10646-1 (#x209) b: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x45) #+END_SRC Then, I evaluated the sexp shown below. Upon evaluating it, the size of the= character =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) didn't seem to in= crease. The second code block below shows the font reported for each charac= ter by calling =3Dwhat-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screensho= t: https://archive.ph/rVZSt #+begin_src elisp (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50= )) #+end_src #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x44) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0= -iso10646-1 (#x209) b: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x45) #+END_SRC ** Experiment 2 (:size for #x201C is not set): Pass "Noto Sans Mono 10" to = set-frame-font, then set :size for #x201C I started Emacs using the command shown below: #+HEADER: :eval no #+BEGIN_SRC sh ./src/emacs -Q /tmp/a.txt #+END_SRC First, I evaluated the sexp shown in the first code block below. The second= code block below shows the font reported for each character by calling =3D= what-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screenshot: https://archive= .ph/PVc8q #+begin_src elisp (set-frame-font "Noto Sans Mono 10" nil t) #+end_src #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x44) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0= -iso10646-1 (#x209) b: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x45) #+END_SRC Then, I evaluated the sexp shown below. Upon evaluating it, the size of the= character =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) didn't seem to in= crease. The second code block below shows the font reported for each charac= ter by calling =3Dwhat-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screensho= t: https://archive.is/AIuP0 #+begin_src elisp (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50= )) #+end_src #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x44) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0= -iso10646-1 (#x209) b: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-15-*-*-*-*-0-iso1064= 6-1 (#x45) #+END_SRC ** Experiment 3 (:size for #x201C is set): Pass "Fixed 5" to set-frame-font= , then set :family and :size for #x201C I started Emacs using the command shown below: #+HEADER: :eval no #+BEGIN_SRC sh ./src/emacs -Q /tmp/a.txt #+END_SRC First, I evaluated the sexp shown in the first code block below. The second= code block below shows the font reported for each character by calling =3D= what-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screenshot: https://archive= .is/v4Sr9 #+begin_src elisp (set-frame-font "Fixed 5" nil t) #+end_src #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-Misc-Fixed-regular-normal-normal-*-7-*-*-*-c-50-iso10646-1 (#x62) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-Misc-Fixed-medium-normal-normal-ja-13-*-*-*-c-120-iso106= 46-1 (#x3A3) b: ftcrhb:-Misc-Fixed-regular-normal-normal-*-7-*-*-*-c-50-iso10646-1 (#x63) #+END_SRC Then, I evaluated the sexp shown below. Upon evaluating it, the size of the= character =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) significantly inc= reased. The second code block below shows the font reported for each charac= ter by calling =3Dwhat-cursor-position=3D with a prefix argument. Screensho= t: https://archive.is/KYRGd #+begin_src elisp (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50= )) #+end_src #+BEGIN_SRC text a: ftcrhb:-Misc-Fixed-regular-normal-normal-*-7-*-*-*-c-50-iso10646-1 (#x62) =E2=80=9C: ftcrhb:-GOOG-Noto Sans Mono-regular-normal-normal-*-50-*-*-*-*-0= -iso10646-1 (#x209) b: ftcrhb:-Misc-Fixed-regular-normal-normal-*-7-*-*-*-c-50-iso10646-1 (#x63) #+END_SRC ** Conclusion When the default font is not changed (see experiment 1) or is set using =3D= (set-frame-font "Noto Sans Mono 10" nil t)=3D (see experiment 2), the sexp = =3D(set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size= 50))=3D didn't seem to increase the size of the character =E2=80=9C (#x201= C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK). When the default font is set using =3D(set-frame-font "Fixed 5" nil t)=3D (= see experiment 3), the sexp =3D(set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :f= amily "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50))=3D significantly increased the size of th= e character =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK). To me, the expected behavior is that =3D(set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (fon= t-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50))=3D sets =3D:family=3D and =3D:si= ze=3D for =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) regardless of the = font that is being used. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 18 02:28:12 2024 Received: (at 73777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Oct 2024 06:28:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36799 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t1gT5-0005Jr-Qk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:28:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44388) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t1gT2-0005Jb-Al for 73777@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:28:11 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t1gSY-0005IB-Qj; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 02:27:38 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=ssph/xlLzWEASrvU+77fgbKR4EfR3KN1U9gXVd+Fx3w=; b=KO/fDLLFmaRmTg2nk+tY msdXUIW748TVF6D2SwVvCNpWhmF7d62OxsILQDIswhs8EGURjZ7t7jSGAL5rMVpVyVzEdBJS/ZZX4 2eMXg9Li03ZV9aWhCBeYeETn3lm9jXfD3eHjCsdGtsif2Q8Tl6KKfXDxwiCXmX4qA1a+cwJ9NE5fE xSvmck21xEMfVyx9aecD3e47JIh3rS5kbtapxRR9fxZLE0oiV5VtoE4dTCAgC5G+yvQP4iF+4T3CM GDgb8E/MKUJ/7u67wCYeNC+ChvzNEniAdXVH5dUv5CK2bqSQqeZtL9DUzwwv6Dsgz3neMP/tieesd zllSy85bCUyJ1Q==; Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:27:36 +0300 Message-Id: <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rodrigo Morales In-Reply-To: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> (message from Rodrigo Morales on Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:10:25 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#73777: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts References: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73777 Cc: 73777@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rodrigo Morales > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 14:10:25 -0500 > > > I am using GNU Emacs 29.4 in Ubuntu 22.04.5 LTS. > > Today, I was trying to change the font size for the character =“= (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) using the sexp shown below. I noticed an inconsistency: that sexp only sets the size for the character =“= when specific fonts are used. > > #+BEGIN_SRC elisp > (set-fontset-font t ?“ (font-spec :family "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50)) > #+END_SRC Before I start digging into how we handle :size in a fontset, I have two questions: . did you reset use-default-font-for-symbols to nil? without that, Emacs prefers to use the default face's font for punctuation and symbols, effectively disregarding the fontsets . which fonts did you find problematic in this case? you say "specific fonts", but it is not clear which fonts exhibit this behavior Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 18 20:56:12 2024 Received: (at 73777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2024 00:56:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40543 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t1xlM-0006jC-0l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 20:56:12 -0400 Received: from smtpout1.mo12.mail-out.ovh.ca ([51.161.45.254]:52221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t1xlK-0006j2-6I for 73777@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 20:56:11 -0400 Received: from mxplan1.mail.ovh.ca (unknown [10.111.58.216]) by mo12.mail-out.ovh.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XVjmd4gVCzHpxv; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 21:55:45 -0300 (ADT) Received: from morales.pe (54.39.251.56) by DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1544.11; Fri, 18 Oct 2024 20:55:44 -0400 Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-94B0017b69e5eb-b397-42f0-9e3e-d961a4f94fef, 05DFB55D969307C52F5ED8FB9617293CD72C487D) smtp.auth=rodrigo-mailing-lists@morales.pe X-OVh-ClientIp: 190.233.209.18 From: Rodrigo Morales To: Eli Zaretskii , Rodrigo Morales Subject: Re: bug#73777: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts In-Reply-To: <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:55:39 -0500 Message-ID: <87ttd8di7o.fsf@morales.pe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-IP: [54.39.251.56] X-ClientProxiedBy: DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) To DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) X-Ovh-Tracer-GUID: ca210b4d-e3ce-4096-8e3f-802a25712e09 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 256986655500768922 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvdehgedggeduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfdpvefjgfevmfevgfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecuhedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvvefujghffffkgggtgfhisehtqhertddttdejnecuhfhrohhmpeftohgurhhighhoucfoohhrrghlvghsuceorhhoughrihhgohdqmhgrihhlihhnghdqlhhishhtshesmhhorhgrlhgvshdrphgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeeffedtgeegjeeujeffteejteejfedvheffhedtleevheekffeliedukeeikeevleenucfkphepuddvjedrtddrtddruddpheegrdefledrvdehuddrheeipdduledtrddvfeefrddvtdelrddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhoughrihhgohdqmhgrihhlihhnghdqlhhishhtshesmhhorhgrlhgvshdrphgvpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtohepvghlihiisehgnhhurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepjeefjeejjeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdpoffvtefjohhsthepmhhouddvpdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuth X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73777 Cc: 73777@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) > . did you reset use-default-font-for-symbols to nil? without that, > Emacs prefers to use the default face's font for punctuation and > symbols, effectively disregarding the fontsets No. I didn't know that the variable use-default-font-for-symbols existed when I wrote that message. Now that I know of its existence, I believe that Emacs behaves consistently with regards to what I mentioned in my first message. > . which fonts did you find problematic in this case? you say > "specific fonts", but it is not clear which fonts exhibit this > behavior I thought that the font which was problematic was "Noto Sans Mono" because when I used that font (in "Experiment 1" and "Experiment 2"), I could not increase the size of the character =E2=80=9C (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK) by evaluating (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :fa= mily "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50)), . However, when I used "Fixed 5" (in "Experiment 3"), evaluating (set-fontset-font t ?=E2=80=9C (font-spec :fami= ly "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50)) did increase the size of the character (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK). Now that I know that the variable use-default-font-for-symbols controls whether Emacs should honor fontsets, I don't think there's a problematic font, instead it was my fault for not correctly knowing the variable that instruct Emacs that it shoud honor fontsets. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 19 02:37:27 2024 Received: (at 73777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2024 06:37:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41027 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t235a-0005nB-ST for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 02:37:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:35906) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t235Y-0005mx-8a for 73777@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 02:37:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2353-0006xA-FE; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 02:36:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=Bt9njDZsK5yTR/MglaN5hhx3KVAyvafgSMrp1m6fmiE=; b=NJ8DX4tit7KMYBbYacl/ P7W8+5Wkc+i0zI5+0yapg1k7G8Zu/bF8uSUCZuKzFYKbEj2VUNGHNSOQ8kf35nNIpxCNgUPjEobS0 lrvfQvhhZ9HlBuvANXaXw7gVNFt9h+8jXZ5ddX+QJ8gMXyMVZ2SIE6qSSQ5YC2iLzRcIu4uYJzF94 GBa6btdjWAemtH65AvfRJ7d1sUNaBOhpRJBnlsFQsbIUoTTTSVxmbiXbIfqInSwZXOqxDqhW+tBsO DNbWKe+8vaqd6LA4YDlA1P+t6zSs4cMEi43L3d6mwsGanblrn74SmNX2wky9DDf4hWe/dyiXeGFrV xL50sMw2TAr99g==; Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 09:36:51 +0300 Message-Id: <86frosmwe4.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rodrigo Morales In-Reply-To: <87ttd8di7o.fsf@morales.pe> (message from Rodrigo Morales on Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:55:39 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#73777: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts References: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttd8di7o.fsf@morales.pe> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73777 Cc: 73777@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rodrigo Morales > CC: <73777@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:55:39 -0500 > > > . did you reset use-default-font-for-symbols to nil? without that, > > Emacs prefers to use the default face's font for punctuation and > > symbols, effectively disregarding the fontsets > > No. I didn't know that the variable use-default-font-for-symbols existed > when I wrote that message. Now that I know of its existence, I believe > that Emacs behaves consistently with regards to what I mentioned in my > first message. > > > . which fonts did you find problematic in this case? you say > > "specific fonts", but it is not clear which fonts exhibit this > > behavior > > I thought that the font which was problematic was "Noto Sans Mono" > because when I used that font (in "Experiment 1" and "Experiment 2"), I > could not increase the size of the character “ (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE > QUOTATION MARK) by evaluating (set-fontset-font t ?“ (font-spec :family > "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50)), . However, when I used "Fixed 5" (in > "Experiment 3"), evaluating (set-fontset-font t ?“ (font-spec :family > "Noto Sans Mono" :size 50)) did increase the size of the character > (#x201C, LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK). > > Now that I know that the variable use-default-font-for-symbols controls > whether Emacs should honor fontsets, I don't think there's a problematic > font, instead it was my fault for not correctly knowing the variable > that instruct Emacs that it shoud honor fontsets. It's an obscure variable, not mentioned in any manuals (because we don't believe someone will want to specify a separate font for punctuation characters). It's a little wonder you didn't know about it. So does this mean we can now close this bug? Or are there any left-overs we still need to handle? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 19 12:17:53 2024 Received: (at 73777) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2024 16:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2C9J-00080U-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:17:53 -0400 Received: from smtpout1.mo11.mail-out.ovh.ca ([51.161.45.253]:49785) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2C9G-00080K-ST for 73777@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:17:51 -0400 Received: from mxplan1.mail.ovh.ca (unknown [10.111.38.137]) by mo11.mail-out.ovh.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4XW6D50MBszHpy2; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 13:17:24 -0300 (ADT) Received: from morales.pe (54.39.251.57) by DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.1544.11; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:17:23 -0400 Authentication-Results: garm.ovh; auth=pass (GARM-95B002747b6138-1744-4a69-933e-669f3b6e1405, D6B93EB44D622B9202CA83D10BE0041748985EAE) smtp.auth=rodrigo-mailing-lists@morales.pe X-OVh-ClientIp: 190.233.209.18 From: Rodrigo Morales To: Eli Zaretskii , Rodrigo Morales Subject: Re: bug#73777: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts In-Reply-To: <86frosmwe4.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttd8di7o.fsf@morales.pe> <86frosmwe4.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: <87o73gdq3x.fsf@morales.pe> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [54.39.251.57] X-ClientProxiedBy: DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) To DAG2EX2.mxpca1.local (172.16.2.12) X-Ovh-Tracer-GUID: 0bb37eba-688e-40cb-8d71-548f285ad5ad X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 15822271392197678746 X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeftddrvdehhedguddtvdcutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfqggfjpdevjffgvefmvefgnecuuegrihhlohhuthemucehtddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvfevufgjfhffkfggtghisehttdertddttddtnecuhfhrohhmpeftohgurhhighhoucfoohhrrghlvghsuceorhhoughrihhgohdqmhgrihhlihhnghdqlhhishhtshesmhhorhgrlhgvshdrphgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeegvedtjeefgeevgfdvjeeitdejudevjeetuefhkeegjeduvdfftddtvdekveehueenucfkphepuddvjedrtddrtddruddpheegrdefledrvdehuddrheejpdduledtrddvfeefrddvtdelrddukeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepihhnvghtpeduvdejrddtrddtrddupdhmrghilhhfrhhomheprhhoughrihhgohdqmhgrihhlihhnghdqlhhishhtshesmhhorhgrlhgvshdrphgvpdhnsggprhgtphhtthhopedvpdhrtghpthhtohepvghlihiisehgnhhurdhorhhgpdhrtghpthhtohepjeefjeejjeesuggvsggsuhhgshdrghhnuhdrohhrghdpoffvtefjohhsthepmhhouddupdhmohguvgepshhmthhpohhuth X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73777 Cc: 73777@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: > So does this mean we can now close this bug? Or are there any > left-overs we still need to handle? We can close this bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 19 12:19:41 2024 Received: (at 73777-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2024 16:19:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2CB2-00083y-W5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:19:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34680) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2CB1-00083k-IX for 73777-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:19:40 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t2CAV-0001Ga-T2; Sat, 19 Oct 2024 12:19:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=CC6XPkVHG5dmygcx41+Ay37f+DsCwTMdT6fhCaBYP2A=; b=jJYD+jVMUUzb YjxnMijgMfYWW3M1ORy2OFX3inQC3nY5oXw1ImtuvENTWZbgdJ/ZbgjYSTWpLU1kQgjU+WtAEQ5Uk sobq2UrsvQVLB0U1m78S8bZYBpLmXaC+nRAwbjJbuX/BgcZR9kEf1kHB9d2pkGh8pXAoQ21PWpcWC l+35jYYT5u9tFtRw7c4SS+oA2Shd1nxMzKoipL//vjuAu+zFim7LBXLkv0zXpZeYPzC2nHjwYPAOX GZG8ABptUuubMb5QlKg0i0d81bGPAeFKajrlvTtU+cSoM9l6moVXzQ6w7x2qDMswo6hERUbKu5+VK EixisRijxioh8nMChmRiAA==; Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 19:19:05 +0300 Message-Id: <86r08cjcau.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Rodrigo Morales In-Reply-To: <87o73gdq3x.fsf@morales.pe> (message from Rodrigo Morales on Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:17:22 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#73777: set-fontset-font doesn't set :size for specific characters when using some fonts References: <87wmiddtni.fsf@morales.pe> <86iktqncx3.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttd8di7o.fsf@morales.pe> <86frosmwe4.fsf@gnu.org> <87o73gdq3x.fsf@morales.pe> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73777-done Cc: 73777-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Rodrigo Morales > CC: <73777@debbugs.gnu.org> > Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:17:22 -0500 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > So does this mean we can now close this bug? Or are there any > > left-overs we still need to handle? > > We can close this bug. Thanks, closing. 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Eli> It's an obscure variable, not mentioned in any manuals (because we Eli> don't believe someone will want to specify a separate font for Eli> punctuation characters). It's a little wonder you didn't know abo= ut Eli> it. It=CA=BCs in the docstring for `set-fontset-font' and in the manuals as of emacs-30. Robert --=20 From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:42:48 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2024 12:24:13 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator