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[79.227.161.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a9950ef9f45sm301377266b.37.2024.10.08.06.46.26 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 08 Oct 2024 06:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working X-Debbugs-Cc: Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 15:46:25 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62a; envelope-from=gerd.moellmann@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Recipe with emacs -q - C-x 2 - Eval (set-window-parameter nil 'no-other-window t) - Eval (setq ignore-window-parameters t) - C-x o - C-x o => No other window to select In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.0.0) of 2024-10-07 built on pro2 Repository revision: 8c5d69998e65d3ecf5f599bd828bf3330f4f118a Repository branch: master System Description: macOS 15.0.1 Configured using: 'configure --without-ns --cache-file /var/folders/1d/k_6t25f94sl83szqbf8gpkrh0000gn/T//config.cache.master --without-tree-sitter --with-native-compilation=no CC=clang 'CFLAGS=-Wgnu-imaginary-constant -Wunused-result -g -fno-omit-frame-pointer'' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 08 10:17:00 2024 Received: (at 73706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2024 14:17:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53804 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syB1I-0001mh-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 10:17:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37254) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syB1F-0001mP-Pp for 73706@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 10:16:58 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1syB10-00085x-Pz; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 10:16:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=omcvoFrosrO7Xu9ZjAp/qpmNpnEfUvQnIOFfbhn0unA=; b=sXTi21HoidEX19IbD7q5 eHZsj/ib/rb4hbjF4Ik3GSji3QeWt8O19vS1/4LGDcHRC+Ar+IwmOHp0tr9T8lR7HASoEid3oJ0en z4ZTHkbIInH619b1qEIx3Z6pKUeOlbue3FuoGfw6YN2RcO2fzHO4gdu8OaXEhhRbbQOIcvoyzByWs +cb8qx7So6ElEsVV25FCc6Ajji+PUURo64ZUWwsa3uh6Ci9Zh+BRJfyuV/o+I5e5Kbm6rFLaYzOQQ PNiBj2A3xPZW0qAAhsIZRPplTwoz224yt7kvozEEptXk8H2IQZqRzGAw7z2GAK5J+NCNBsIzeeaAm oB6ACkfLrGXvxQ==; Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 17:16:39 +0300 Message-Id: <86jzeismrc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M=C3=B6llmann?= , martin rudalics In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?utf-8?Q?M?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B6llmann?= on Tue, 08 Oct 2024 15:46:25 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#73706: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73706 Cc: 73706@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Gerd Möllmann > Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 15:46:25 +0200 > > Recipe with emacs -q > > - C-x 2 > - Eval (set-window-parameter nil 'no-other-window t) > - Eval (setq ignore-window-parameters t) > - C-x o > - C-x o > > => No other window to select > > In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.0.0) of 2024-10-07 > built on pro2 > Repository revision: 8c5d69998e65d3ecf5f599bd828bf3330f4f118a > Repository branch: master > System Description: macOS 15.0.1 This can also be reproduced in Emacs 30. Adding Martin to the discussion. 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A fix against the release version is attached (fixes for the manual not included). But I would have to run it here for a month at least in order to make sure that it never selects tooltip windows or the like. 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[79.227.161.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a99594a1e57sm255706966b.116.2024.10.08.09.50.52 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 08 Oct 2024 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Gerd_M=C3=B6llmann?= To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#73706: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working In-Reply-To: <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 8 Oct 2024 18:19:05 +0200") References: <86jzeismrc.fsf@gnu.org> <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 18:50:51 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73706 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 73706@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) martin rudalics writes: > So it's by all means for master only. Thanks, that was swift :-). Let me say that I stumbled over this only because I was debugging some problem which turned out to be caused by Transient-Posframe on ttys (see emacs-devel). I think no one has noticed this not working for years. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Oct 08 13:57:00 2024 Received: (at 73706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Oct 2024 17:57:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54311 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syESC-0004wE-9d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 13:57:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:45274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syESA-0004w1-DP for 73706@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 13:56:59 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1syEPp-0004E0-Rz; Tue, 08 Oct 2024 13:54:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=D2Ouz3I2LfJMHWKlJytv0KOFmgQhbXuFS2i9hOiR2dM=; b=J3GTYxtxHzch e1+Ir6m9Rmk1fMZL56Eov0dbvTBpfz7nu4dXAh9kAnLdXc+ncwWSDESj1la8UWxD6yQQ7/9W4p3og xhQOAZpPooNht87BFD8qHi4ilHazp/w1NFUQjJR92MnKqpp1LsoN2hM2xlUE4bp4sLLXmeGJK313A Hb+xlYJoTH2caVd6kgVy0vGuxXmFRN2KoDGWaKW2UhFUgr879JXIjHhqgJ2KixH6fZLte1wdZlBzw KstIyH4qDALpITmS/rxzsG53ENpQXD1C0H6FMiP94xVCcdewTyAfzXFN+ZmhaCagjavpo953wO6O1 qUnjZftLkDQPb+aQswrMHQ==; Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2024 20:54:27 +0300 Message-Id: <86iku2scoc.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: martin rudalics In-Reply-To: <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Tue, 8 Oct 2024 18:19:05 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#73706: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working References: <86jzeismrc.fsf@gnu.org> <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73706 Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 73706@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2024 18:19:05 +0200 > Cc: 73706@debbugs.gnu.org > From: martin rudalics > > >> Recipe with emacs -q > >> > >> - C-x 2 > >> - Eval (set-window-parameter nil 'no-other-window t) > >> - Eval (setq ignore-window-parameters t) > >> - C-x o > >> - C-x o > >> > >> => No other window to select > >> > >> In GNU Emacs 31.0.50 (build 1, aarch64-apple-darwin24.0.0) of 2024-10-07 > >> built on pro2 > >> Repository revision: 8c5d69998e65d3ecf5f599bd828bf3330f4f118a > >> Repository branch: master > >> System Description: macOS 15.0.1 > > > > This can also be reproduced in Emacs 30. > > > > Adding Martin to the discussion. > > A fix against the release version is attached (fixes for the manual not > included). But I would have to run it here for a month at least in > order to make sure that it never selects tooltip windows or the like. > So it's by all means for master only. Thanks, please install on master. We can consider backporting it after Emacs 30.1 is released, if no one complains till then. 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This will probably take a couple of days. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Oct 11 04:45:11 2024 Received: (at 73706) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Oct 2024 08:45:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33404 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szBGp-00045Z-4h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 04:45:11 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:50999) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szBGn-00045J-6P for 73706@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 04:45:10 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.at; s=s31663417; t=1728636287; x=1729241087; i=rudalics@gmx.at; bh=pnDKevbPQ1MyDUVbPqjUlIZhYcNf7h6VTY4Wn1FoSA4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc: References:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=U82YHvw1sJB5aptj3jEyInM88CNjbqe7VJZQILrNtToKlN7BEmC9wV9IvZ1NDAHy GiKzL6Bim99naXad41UYYen1pwmfk1Yk2ioJT3pEugayJFyOxjIa9lHHyfW9KqYRL I+KlkZ29q/mGdJkBIpllNOZBEZ+jmg+r8Rx8UxIVEPDx3b7oDjn9RgBbkTqbnErTF PvLHPeXwx3RBYQfa+ur7kMh2GCTUwpew7Dwb230PbHFzeS6Dlw+sJq8Pf53B79+bL PUYlC1/od4PqnrPDXa+4b7gQc0yxgzhiv/mc85co7VlQ/XlPRbqGSBAPxsm+M6zL+ Pl3awaylFjnOohFotQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [192.168.31.113] ([46.125.249.110]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MGz1f-1tDBkK2BwB-008xcd; Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:44:47 +0200 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2024 10:44:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#73706: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working To: Eli Zaretskii References: <86jzeismrc.fsf@gnu.org> <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> <86iku2scoc.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US From: martin rudalics In-Reply-To: <86iku2scoc.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:DqhBAsgrAaANdoD1pcLwvKWcPJcBeOp2F8D+M5xZM2iokimXNtY WpXq96JMQk513GWg39ADUY/X3labXABCyDllBhSrgtLMAIqzfNa+ojFlV7V1LRWbCaq1SrD d/GNtsQQfpqPXcY2js5ZT4ReKf6mURkd8wk4GoU6yCfOgeeMWYgp+xw//ZnFZSObHlHhnIT uWmt6bqgQzOuX3xHVCBkg== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:s+BnfyV4wUQ=;BHOuoxPdenciTllXz4GeTgjearf AAUM5S7vSgcwndj5aBaEfY0b4CyFFc1AY8vDIuzwNpNXY7ANPZaBWY4WqbvL8ugP0LorOTP1s DKURxXD0GWVuTlR00dQQikM5pr6jBUP3Tz2I1aJ/9j4kCeFsCtejeOSYyUacw99r2EWiasJmz vWIcmnLY+ngtVxax5I3VFCr6xVU2JUtr3OYMoXHDXGo5mdnv2dTdENSOwaSkDzEVg9WqHdLYX ccEpB9V44OQioNZVeZRMTLTucXH5V85iD+18Q+OMKcC3LYIzyXEksyvVhS9IDnp1Ge1DwGeSO maf1dVVJ+ku4DWqjfptDdOs7RJ2M2dOCapkOYNqxUdAVcnTF06wt+Fi9GyM53BqoYG5HviVWo Qc+Zuax739pWrvDh5gTWGfF/XawcZejomcOC+HQnr5Y2fsjdJpP3kMTc2PSXmIx+ezs6vWiYd d7lKnMhvZ9SWTSRLQwCuY8mbBowxox02kkGhXTJ4yFKUHlV+CvRDQsqJH18UNAB2Km7O5/fL/ iXAMcUjLtVBVJoJme9U+sPbsF+iFAF5K3iiOdHoWnLgmCmMqyFFIYqND7vJAVOJqY4g81WfEP 5ovLnbigjc+DorQfOHIngrxsZI4VZv0yk/OEOQRGegeg22mRAG2DIO5abW6vlVcgFw1H0j6wZ LI0z7F9++Vp52lMU/KOfnXiWk1N8eAaQVer3tkrFd9+V02fblt/I2+tT3bDf0/uUEFl6+CM2/ qd/bR0C3LIT9sEx5BxXHfKXGclx8g4IKsGkt4KHYfBpclJIgmJS4AYLbgwBEIBV4ZFYGvML5N 6mIC8tb/o3y7Wp1pV3eyPHpGtS/e1Qz/uZHlZbX6Cx3/0= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73706 Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 73706@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > Thanks, please install on master. We can consider backporting it > after Emacs 30.1 is released, if no one complains till then. Pushed to master. Alternative solutions seem too invasive. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Oct 20 04:38:01 2024 Received: (at 73706-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Oct 2024 08:38:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45715 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2RRp-0002cs-DG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 04:38:01 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:47623) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1t2RRn-0002cd-Ea for 73706-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 04:38:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.at; s=s31663417; t=1729413448; x=1730018248; i=rudalics@gmx.at; bh=8mZCZOU6J0Lh+kvOCeGqRKIQP0nvGG0Nb3M6QFLpAEk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:From:To: Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=OfzpcK/5DNdeP1+lVu195AT94pqf9nr6BdAAbiuwxEEPwEYxWDQN3VLNv2Fgkm13 UP0sXe1hCYwPr0eBcQJvSVabommTtKX32MoRXvhBmozsrkLKRnOndmpXMxfl0RRD6 dFiSipx6/F7GGR6dOYpeCscgrqXmeMkVnj/M/r8Ws+Y0v4i4v+hMTkoGA/EXm0D0f 8PQmimvUzTZaKYtpArV2pGbcvfxeBlYoWtbsvSck01VJ+wKSqaUoZSzXhaJtK2abO RbfodKY7lc1QfI5jEJxvfGkyHAhNboqOyGir0josmaquscSWKgThX3EuTG9rc2g/7 MNyc/Xb2fxAvTFWJnA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from [192.168.31.113] ([212.95.5.189]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MGhyc-1t7Rf80F3y-00DnLn; Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:37:28 +0200 Message-ID: <22a40610-aec4-429e-a45b-751f60c9195c@gmx.at> Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2024 10:37:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: bug#73706: 31.0.50; ignore-window-parameters not working From: martin rudalics To: Eli Zaretskii References: <86jzeismrc.fsf@gnu.org> <2e8af639-4ae1-446c-bf97-6aa866000c6d@gmx.at> <86iku2scoc.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:r03/Cb5jY6kMFMl/vRccBLAI3FuIqpyXJwNOFbDWz40jSfAOzoc h16yb2DPUBcrma/4hPdKBrHYFtsTKi1Y2oGGf0TifWayAABhrT1IQKETioihaJubHzF5QMm 60uKeKdatspjRtHe1j5vbVdSrX+nJy0bQ9mWUkJTLFN9T0FAt8UatQynS7A1fqVR4pQwAHk 6h7Gam0g0NvdvNJCK08XQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:f7DFs3yQ+7s=;BDrI/8N1C88Q+LXvnl7ks5ayv5j N/hme1H/Zc0Q56XAuqRwvNiUR4RABqrUgE555jOIX6fh6RwbfWMQzDJG6PPA2jhKV6TmQPU4Y sfNmqX8yqL/3gOq25H40KZXdH4x+a3RK+UXbpzJ1SSbcx2f5ZDNnr1ur4hiqDysIIqtisAH8m e+ddEecjN0RoShMGZ8CuDSC1NfK4Gl3Dap//rE0qOChi46nwA5nLa3CHycHLQt9CEH+O8aHzG 1lRTaHp8kAQ+ueU7quS1VniRR51hY3JHzuk/G6DdnCj+4zI5+MsJnQtFbLg8HEQpOuUCEjyxj EsQ8b0wsMFszLX6cxw76lnX0K1Nga8Zt2GWHY8yXaVM2AInIo85fm2kG/pumHhJEwpNYGjXtm YA5egetsY2wxFRzyfkNJb1co87fKFBThc6Qk9WUvdw7Ze5Ryx086pk+ROhoD4bd+vOHjq/2Rk +0WObixtmOtR8kFxomILanvTXLNUDpFRbF/BzcYrKhmfkAmLv7cQv6TnbIz/o1eWr+XB2zDv9 RuRmeLfyZ79wVlYDZfRi7jle5kThb8WI0It+G/nWstaHGDe3LNWkscZfdO0ImPzXbuqKKTnXz nUDKVob8a463bfV7h7YEuL65zpaCTnzz5LQmOn1dSAHK+CnEvRHzBME7KRQpxadgMwWnUW8et nzHks7ZEeekUW6pcQRdU97Eqi5LLNqLmoPsH4A61M81BaeChJ0uOCu+MMVradvcQ/kQf7oRIK hkMDKdc4XecQNIjtnC01bps4vucJ21Zh+CLgB0SrB9/2CHTfNND9gce69bE43TBAqOBbF4GWL 1L7yoxZd7CsyzELDiM9UCTCw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73706-done Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, 73706-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) PiBQdXNoZWQgdG8gbWFzdGVyLsKgIEFsdGVybmF0aXZlIHNvbHV0aW9ucyBzZWVtIHRvbyBp bnZhc2l2ZS4NCg0KQ2xvc2luZyB0aGlzIGJ1ZywgbWFydGluDQoNCg== From unknown Thu Aug 14 18:32:39 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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