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boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/plain I have a .svg file want to edit in nXML-mode, and at the same time want to preview the image with image-mode. So i create one indirect-buffer by using =clone-indirect-buffer=, then a new buffer is created, and i change the major-mode of the indirect-buffer to image-mode, the original buffer's preview changed to image-mode, but its major-mode is still nXML-mode. 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I have a .svg file want to edit in nXML-mode, and at the same time want to preview the image with image-mode. So i create one indirect-buffer by using clone-indirect-buffer, then a new buffer is created, and i change the major-mode of the indirect-buffer to image-mode, the original buffer's preview changed to image-mode, but its major-mode is still nXML-mode.

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c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=xAfhtZD/llYDnMahCFPnvBs7uPIdxGhpwim83BbFcQQ=; b=im7nIx6EBRJ3 EMe9gmWf2npsjfR3CtaHuInP0NsFHWimyqEx8LVWQCphTcJwqA1UhQzj4PA19070nUmYKc2SaCq2z 3u1CkTxI2XGPYYDlncQkZYd7Q24o3JqM1+x0E4qYLMoUOF2IUfvgIm9PrQ3/fs68MLGtpTVrESK+U IkwGTeZJOeRJByU7RXbE1yCZtiCl5QUJ/fI5kjqp0HMOk1inEj7ITyc8mt5Adb4c9qs6Eo+e9lUS7 NirH4SjEVCtHlNftdNevCVI3ZkLjp81QdxsBl837M1sR2FrnMMUBsLZmDNVwOqlwqRyYA99cky4qh mkHfs5uFVnGLbtkkpM4zsQ==; Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 19:22:44 +0300 Message-Id: <861q0turor.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: PENG Kevin , Stefan Monnier In-Reply-To: <877cal44fe.fsf@gmail.com> (message from PENG Kevin on Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:42:41 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#73663: 29.4; indirect-buffer behaviour is not correct References: <877cal44fe.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73663 Cc: 73663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: PENG Kevin > Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:42:41 +0800 > > I have a .svg file want to edit in nXML-mode, and at the same time > want to preview the image with image-mode. > So i create one indirect-buffer by using =clone-indirect-buffer=, > then a new buffer is created, and i change the major-mode of > the indirect-buffer to image-mode, the original buffer's preview > changed to image-mode, but its major-mode is still nXML-mode. I guess that's because major-mode-suspend, which image-mode calls to be able to switch back to the original major mode, doesn't support indirect buffers. Stefan, am I right? Can this be fixed? Regardless, I don't really understand why you need a separate indirect buffer in this case: just typing "C-c C-c" will toggle the buffer between nXML mode and image mode, so previewing is simple and needs no other buffer. Am I missing something? 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But the case needed is to use one major-mode to edit, and another major-mode to preview the result, with two seperate windows. The svg edit is only one case for such usages. As this document mentioned: [[https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/Indirect-Buffer= s.html]] #+BEGIN_QUOTE The text of the indirect buffer is always identical to the text of its base buffer; changes made by editing either one are visible immediately in the other. =E2=80=9CText=E2=80=9D here includes both the characters and their text pro= perties. But in all other respects, the indirect buffer and its base buffer are completely separate. They can have different names, different values of point, different narrowi= ng, different markers, different overlays, different major modes, and different= local variables.=20 #+END_QUOTE Seems the indirect-buffer also not work for any of other major modes. fundamental-mode, org-mode, elisp-mode, ... Almost all of the major-mode i know are failure. Eli Zaretskii writes: > [+] >> From: PENG Kevin >> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:42:41 +0800 >>=20 >> I have a .svg file want to edit in nXML-mode, and at the same time >> want to preview the image with image-mode. >> So i create one indirect-buffer by using =3Dclone-indirect-buffer=3D, >> then a new buffer is created, and i change the major-mode of >> the indirect-buffer to image-mode, the original buffer's preview >> changed to image-mode, but its major-mode is still nXML-mode. > > I guess that's because major-mode-suspend, which image-mode calls to > be able to switch back to the original major mode, doesn't support > indirect buffers. Stefan, am I right? Can this be fixed? > > Regardless, I don't really understand why you need a separate indirect > buffer in this case: just typing "C-c C-c" will toggle the buffer > between nXML mode and image mode, so previewing is simple and needs no > other buffer. Am I missing something? --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes, i know "C-c C-c" can preview the image directly. But the case needed is to use one major-mode to edit, and another major-mode to preview the result, with two seperate windows. The svg edit is only one case for such usages. As this document mentioned: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/= Indirect-Buffers.html

The text of the indirect buffer is always identical to the text of its base buffer; changes made by editing either one are visible immediately in the other. =E2=80=9CText=E2=80=9D here includes both the characters and their text pro= perties. But in all other respects, the indirect buffer and its base buffer are completely separate. They can have different names, different values of point, different narrowi= ng, different markers, different overlays, different major modes, and different= local variables.=20

Seems the indirect-buffer also not work for any of other major modes. fundamental-mode, org-mode, elisp-mode, … Almost all of the major-mode i know are failure.

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

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From: PENG Kevin <kevin.remegame@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:42:41 +0800

I have a .svg file want to edit in nXML-mode, and at the same time want to preview the image with image-mode. So i create one indirect-buffer by using clone-indirect-buffer, then a new buffer is created, and i change the major-mode of the indirect-buffer to image-mode, the original buffer's preview changed to image-mode, but its major-mode is still nXML-mode.

I guess that's because major-mode-suspend, which image-mode calls to be able to switch back to the original major mode, doesn't support indirect buffers. Stefan, am I right? Can this be fixed?

Regardless, I don't really understand why you need a separate indirect buffer in this case: just typing "C-c C-c" will toggle the buffer between nXML mode and image mode, so previewing is simple and needs no other buffer. Am I missing something?

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Most major modes use text properties to font-lock the buffer and change the way how its contents are displayed. Use cases of indirect buffers are limited, maybe we need to warn more explicitly that their usefulness is very restricted. IIRC, having indirect and base buffer using different major modes is something that was never supported. >From the past discussions about the matter I also recall that the limitations are lying in the concept and we can't do much here without a reimplementation of the idea. So I would suggest to rather think about how to get what you want without using indirect buffers. Michael. 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The text properties of base buffer are shared with indirect buffers. Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this by using =3Dimpatient-mode=3D with web-browser, when the svg file modified = the preview will be changed at the same time. Michael Heerdegen writes: > PENG Kevin writes: > > [+] >> The text of the indirect buffer is always identical to the text of its >> base buffer; changes made by editing either one are visible >> immediately in the other. =E2=80=9CText=E2=80=9D here includes both the = characters and >> their text properties. > > `image-mode' uses text properties to display the image! Most major > modes use text properties to font-lock the buffer and change the way how > its contents are displayed. > > Use cases of indirect buffers are limited, maybe we need to warn more > explicitly that their usefulness is very restricted. IIRC, having > indirect and base buffer using different major modes is something that > was never supported. > > From the past discussions about the matter I also recall that the > limitations are lying in the concept and we can't do much here without a > reimplementation of the idea. > > So I would suggest to rather think about how to get what you want > without using indirect buffers. > > > Michael. --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ok, i got a mistake to use indirect buffer in this way. The text properties of base buffer are shared with indirect buffers.

Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this by using impatient-mode with web-browser, when the svg file mo= dified the preview will be changed at the same time.

Michael Heerdegen <michaelheerdegen@web.de> writes:

PENG Kevin <kevin.remegame@gmail.com> writes:

[+]
The text of the indirect buffer is always identical to the text of its base buffer; changes made by editing either one are visible immediately in the other. =E2=80=9CText=E2=80=9D here includes both the cha= racters and their text properties.

`image-mode' uses text properties to display the image! Most major modes use text properties to font-lock the buffer and change the way how its contents are displayed.

Use cases of indirect buffers are limited, maybe we need to warn more explicitly that their usefulness is very restricted. IIRC, having indirect and base buffer using different major modes is something that was never supported.

From the past discussions about the matter I also recall that the limitations are lying in the concept and we can't do much here without a reimplementation of the idea.

So I would suggest to rather think about how to get what you want without using indirect buffers.

Michael.

--==-=-=-- --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain -- Best Regards. --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 09 08:46:25 2024 Received: (at 73663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2024 12:46:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55942 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syW5B-0005Jk-6i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40356) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syW59-0005JW-Jq for 73663@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:24 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1syW4t-0006Im-2s; Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=s0EZbBNyuyE0DyKvpZPGHKrJlXvaW0ye9WzFeEewJEU=; b=Z2l8OlahKN/X C/j2bYEJ4Nf4f+v+4dG5HI31CG1uxDqS6jdriHTda6By3sS/3iH84zCGzQT3BFS8bgY/1h5GZ35Q3 wtb4d2v46nAm93ZuheIp+NA89p+ZM0Wj4BDVnl95vIIzu1RwTeuqpx2O+7UBmEgvQ99CwlplC1+GQ Q5LhbA0p+eKmeyjobDwKzuZUW4rnlw98RYlW3Us/LY6Y5LHRYDeWhWa7IfdzgdU35NX7XimxjsZiZ onFzXQrefm/YOt7DlWGxjRzvKcZ9KC57MtHm2cNJQJPpV8T992dvRUcV/JgAfqkOU3sKdVPoC/OZZ +xf3/Oc3rqktWflN+oYuCg==; Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 15:46:05 +0300 Message-Id: <86bjzt4f76.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: PENG Kevin In-Reply-To: <87set53j56.fsf@gmail.com> (message from PENG Kevin on Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:23:23 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#73663: 29.4; indirect-buffer behaviour is not correct References: <877cal44fe.fsf@gmail.com> <861q0turor.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfng2cdt.fsf@gmail.com> <877cajbka9.fsf@web.de> <87set53j56.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73663 Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 73663@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: PENG Kevin > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 73663@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier > > Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:23:23 +0800 > > Ok, i got a mistake to use indirect buffer in this way. The text properties of base buffer are shared with > indirect buffers. > > Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this by using impatient-mode with > web-browser, when the svg file modified the preview will be changed at the same time. Thanks, so can we now close this non-bug? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 09 08:46:44 2024 Received: (at 73663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Oct 2024 12:46:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syW5T-0005KP-N6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:43 -0400 Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:44496) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1syW5R-0005KA-Cu for 73663@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:42 -0400 Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id DBE41100055; Wed, 9 Oct 2024 08:46:25 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1728477985; bh=hXEvDd529h2YSDHnRKjMXhAy6Ad92OnuA/lC317PvMo=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=HmnamOzixU+DIOHItemNpfx+DZf0zzyw2/idJhwht9sD/yxzofA/MCMwHPeqjxiZO s4ntPu1qkg5a1Jtfxwt9+YVJRwM3JnZDiPPJIWXdd0GlzbFrKXyzOYi0nxmVaTq37E sirlcb2A/eNQVZmTFuceoHU88mWtAilNQjMohfnjU4mtKtNRuKN3OG9kXkBJGyfjTj Cc9pQzFF9/YgE3yqMzjVSAjQ+Z+BCPxlWhHgSITkCKFbtgzpxfRiZLUU/sYjXpDAeZ +EAzcsDtERnFRxeEDqwvqxOSrL93sSS8dFsDMsTBIXetbiTYRuNH/yJ7JhGZHjy0/Y 1HvfE+nFu8ugQ== Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 2F87C100043; Wed, 9 Oct 2024 08:46:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lechazo (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0A6B71202CB; Wed, 9 Oct 2024 08:46:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier To: PENG Kevin Subject: Re: bug#73663: 29.4; indirect-buffer behaviour is not correct In-Reply-To: <87set53j56.fsf@gmail.com> (PENG Kevin's message of "Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:23:23 +0800") Message-ID: References: <877cal44fe.fsf@gmail.com> <861q0turor.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfng2cdt.fsf@gmail.com> <877cajbka9.fsf@web.de> <87set53j56.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:46:23 -0400 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-SPAM-INFO: Spam detection results: 0 ALL_TRUSTED -1 Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP AWL 0.170 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain X-SPAM-LEVEL: X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73663 Cc: Michael Heerdegen , Eli Zaretskii , 73663@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this > by using =impatient-mode= with web-browser, when the svg file modified the > preview will be changed at the same time. It would probably be a good idea to add support for some kind of "simultaneous preview" to the nxml-mode when editing an SVG, such that it creates an auxiliary buffer in image-mode and updates it e.g. when you save the file. The same probably holds for other similar text+image formats, like XPM and PostScript. Maybe it should be some kind of `image-minor-mode` which lets you either switch between `image-mode` and some other mode (like now) or display the image in an auxiliary buffer. 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Thank for your reply. Eli Zaretskii writes: > [+] >> From: PENG Kevin >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 73663@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier >> >> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:23:23 +0800 >> >> Ok, i got a mistake to use indirect buffer in this way. The text properties of base buffer are shared with >> indirect buffers. >> >> Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this by using impatient-mode with >> web-browser, when the svg file modified the preview will be changed at the same time. > > Thanks, so can we now close this non-bug? -- Best Regards. 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An auxiliary buffer is needed to store the preview content. But should synchronous its content with the base buffer. This also need some effort on buffer management. More complex then a shared one. Stefan Monnier writes: > [+] >> Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this >> by using =impatient-mode= with web-browser, when the svg file modified the >> preview will be changed at the same time. > > It would probably be a good idea to add support for some kind of > "simultaneous preview" to the nxml-mode when editing an SVG, such that > it creates an auxiliary buffer in image-mode and updates it e.g. when > you save the file. > > The same probably holds for other similar text+image formats, like XPM > and PostScript. > > Maybe it should be some kind of `image-minor-mode` which lets you either > switch between `image-mode` and some other mode (like now) or display > the image in an auxiliary buffer. > > > Stefan -- Best Regards. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 12 10:29:18 2024 Received: (at 73663-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2024 14:29:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szd7N-0002lw-Ln for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 10:29:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49848) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1szd7L-0002lk-FV for 73663-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 10:29:16 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1szd4u-00021v-KB; Sat, 12 Oct 2024 10:26:44 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Y3VYmg35KXKPqqWeXzm/YOw7XS3clPxRH5avPEpEBwM=; b=eb/dgyf4Ncb9 prGePCKWb49pbeKX4pBUh7rEoqJCt1cM4k9G3TUfc/N6AOapGBwt0QO/5cniiALnYEWrzuPMetzKi 6Cd3+c+e8T7+wAIy71khC6u362EJBLY/EvgD68zdE2RgzldY6YEbq61tH2dPL1Q54Axqg5/uKEaKK PZ9dMkIN2tVNE13+g3wAeRBC7DdFMgUvbiv7LbkIcLCKLsLar+xoEBYMQM/0AlAW365Ri9qrJZJfe dwU6D+5Qv5zxV1aBIvZNmTUpEkTKBFq+D0K/Io1VwqwZ3S/XfuelZn/nCEoyk9DY/5t+WT5v7Ur/L nFsCNOR2Wf3bb7deuFT09A==; Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 17:26:39 +0300 Message-Id: <867cadwg68.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: PENG Kevin In-Reply-To: <87jzedxyw7.fsf@gmail.com> (message from PENG Kevin on Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:56:33 +0800) Subject: Re: bug#73663: 29.4; indirect-buffer behaviour is not correct References: <877cal44fe.fsf@gmail.com> <861q0turor.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfng2cdt.fsf@gmail.com> <877cajbka9.fsf@web.de> <87set53j56.fsf@gmail.com> <86bjzt4f76.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzedxyw7.fsf@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73663-done Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 73663-done@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: PENG Kevin > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 73663@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca > Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2024 20:56:33 +0800 > > > Sure. Thank for your reply. > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > [+] > >> From: PENG Kevin > >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 73663@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Monnier > >> > >> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2024 13:23:23 +0800 > >> > >> Ok, i got a mistake to use indirect buffer in this way. The text properties of base buffer are shared with > >> indirect buffers. > >> > >> Due to svg in emacs is not fully support, i have implemented this by using impatient-mode with > >> web-browser, when the svg file modified the preview will be changed at the same time. > > > > Thanks, so can we now close this non-bug? Closing. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:32:35 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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