From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Resent-From: Sean Whitton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 73607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.17279233358197 (code B ref -1); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:43:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 02:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swBnC-000289-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swBnB-000282-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swBn9-00018X-T3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:12 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swBn8-0003VC-2V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=pFuPzGf/lCXvN8iNSBy/O+zpFcJKMRkilHNz7SEgJQTxs9cMOx5nXkkp+xRv0E3MeTR8kzic4dlHchEm3RHKFY2HH3ITVOP24RuejFYTiMdUPXod6OPkSPPIrZHBatlS6R32PKW1Z5D9jRca+Q1Xui1h3EIabB6TiqU2p9+m39G16nXV+UFI++iSiAhVPRwO8aHWMbpE6WERwbU2DuNtfmdqZWkxEhVkMk5S73r1XcSdogOl1JwyHs1+o9WPMzJD5l/XxRVZCK4vv3KdZnkdqcu2HxeAhOGIAgWQDwHv3h7pvRqyW4YygrH1fmJtBPkiFvHlq6W0SJkL9LvPKJacbw==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=MwbhfXhdAxYAzVQdx8YKV+WBLnM5edXL5HaVuTWS+r8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=vcQ2fR1q6xeaMVsdR7DVqH1EenuFN/AVF5YDI7yamCzZ9OuQYsy0Zk4DiZr/ZpKmXeoFjYFi8aYfEzByMdHZzPRjjrTibno73o8SaKihCJkjvrTampy7ip5jrcnb6uK55xidUVNENo53uYAv3KGJ7LXg+svKoJDfQRymCSn8I0h9BxZmnI+NrwOJBCPEgb0S2+pcq4b9FO2qckNR5m7NvqzysmOHtUMaQJ4z9KLYiiGp4hykZc33JAOOyszKB4chS7uFwR4iKqqni5QNaEU/+wgKgYtI+Izk0xIpVud8gAsnayULhQ2ycdGMYN8VOr4k4Fwqjb21o3fMhcXnKTXurA==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=MwbhfXhdAxYAzVQdx8YKV+WBLnM5edXL5HaVuTWS+r8=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -606902734 for (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7399F7E3B8A; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 (CST) From: Sean Whitton Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 Message-ID: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) 1. emacs -q 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected However: 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." I am on the pgtk build. -- Sean Whitton From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton Cc: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 73607-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73607.17279391673153 (code B ref 73607); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 73607) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 07:06:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swFuY-0000on-JK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 03:06:06 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:37700) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swFuX-0000o9-90 for 73607@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 03:06:05 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swFuQ-0004Fb-GS; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 03:05:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=R3UJXMe6wO9STC7TiQY7cCrZq3ZTDEGyVCe7uNWI4RQ=; b=o1IEPNglxsYb w2tPn400rk3yEZF9G+Y+XXj8m1x8TIVofXRkPoozVKRi7UY6pdZX//cCEtajWyEbn9DK71aCArCm8 PVVD8x8hGo5PGlUdpOmLHC8gCoHEC/yVVguI8r33P4PmeaCa4ZnzfBkTj0FO9ZLV1LvBumxc4wscK 8MT0XM77QoAsBT7YuPlPrDhPQ5MptzlNvYWTLty8dkORiME6kqy+t1gZ5uWzbJyT5ytyRqyTKwZGj OLFPtHi5VhgVX8D1EH+sgj61EgID1pUMmkncsCE76Wsxuuj2KrpbBtSGUKQpym7UKtWDyEHiXeOd7 cXSlmoLT7OmFN7CAKIInKg==; Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:05:56 +0300 Message-Id: <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (message from Sean Whitton on Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800) References: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean Whitton > Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 > > 1. emacs -q > 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) > 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected > > However: > > 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" > 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." Why is that a problem? From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Resent-From: Sean Whitton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 73607-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73607.17279396464571 (code B ref 73607); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 73607) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 07:14:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swG2I-0001Be-4P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 03:14:06 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:60352) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swG2F-0001Au-LT for 73607@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 03:14:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=Y/AXuFRSJc2XazpBOQ7XNUDMsuWBwPgtbV3OB+vH2AsdSGEhbQHQRdsOGiXORWRQihzM92XdzQjxd0OfkOOsfEhBWSHo9YDEVBny0OggU78HWl6rJXqYokgkRvdpF4CFAdhLFj8h2uAx2goVXcXoRtw9dFKsIZlucLm3b6S2BlAY6qqNIS1i81aYYZ7YujKlaKO7yQEPv1wQyYFtjA46Bvpr6CFH2ZIvaNPU2P1RyWZbD98eFcGGPHxn59iBwcKKauUsZKq4xE6kQhV5czmnWESnRSA8KSc+lC6E/68si3g6svVeW1v6WZN38XBclGNNRXv/h+9opkoiDgVlkoZVEg==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=36kdeyoMwQa3Nzyeb+sr1yOcfTww1Ma0waxiZi2WoZ8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=5acd9fOIDeyUqW5k7UKFbVexOrvFHA4bArzafeWApVv9qU67t0jipHKcwGm3M1aZEB2g10+CN5CMAAiVD/KhdphYmwaOmji+pOet0Zy5cnSLLIeoG6swP26foZv82Z0lvuiOpJPh1bAxkRl78SG3kECeLCP3Y96YJwIR62jc4Ao1znbSE+5EYOQdQlWchlmlJHZe+wlei1IXS1Td4rVkhdjqpVy3rgoYYArMqMFZlF39N9FUGhiP/G2nCg89E0VNST/7hzy7V6A1ULPOrRKIHKDpXPAJuHik09BwOfM6zVxZHiI8iZaZezxfVNjXaZ84tA15ZRTYZHqq38YFHgRJew==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=36kdeyoMwQa3Nzyeb+sr1yOcfTww1Ma0waxiZi2WoZ8=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -1147253790; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AA12F7E15AB; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 15:13:52 +0800 (CST) From: Sean Whitton In-Reply-To: <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:05:56 +0300") References: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 15:13:52 +0800 Message-ID: <871q0xzmj3.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 10:05am +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Sean Whitton >> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 >> >> 1. emacs -q >> 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) >> 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected >> >> However: >> >> 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" >> 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." > > Why is that a problem? It should say "C-z C-x is undefined" right away, like with every other key. -- Sean Whitton From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 11:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Sean Whitton Cc: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 73607-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73607.172795457521423 (code B ref 73607); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 11:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 73607) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 11:22:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60145 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swJv4-0005ZS-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:22:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swJv3-0005ZG-Ea for 73607@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:22:53 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swJuw-0004mg-Ax; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:22:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=z8icn+gZZdrZgLKxEa9Uc7+y9K6DIEZKjBxbmgJBPjs=; b=cXcvLNebhw9E 1MQqo9gnolXT66/VMzbmACd2qoYqPWaw0Ro51QmZmGO1lTGl5ar/mbSfO+C6op3l/QqGDp0S0y0T1 DiuZQVj7kCUZ9YtZbKPAyhd+WB/RZCi263UOnhfxIOgOLeRmMrsVH/JDGvoWVXQOPyDMDHuddZq4Z 2q578TKsABZPDj5P/wy5ntanNMxusLkZldidgMUlk/fvb0Nddxk7I4MbCqauR9Bro+t27UEeEkFWZ fYL93RyW5qNFCRbUeGbNzMnChmNhUuHWbk+eBBG4eUH7WjwrrquLeh04MMY+MjM6V6FXOu7ylh47H SHfg/Dp0Ct3dt+sqrDFhYw==; Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 14:22:43 +0300 Message-Id: <868qv5zb0c.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <871q0xzmj3.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (message from Sean Whitton on Thu, 03 Oct 2024 15:13:52 +0800) References: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> <871q0xzmj3.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean Whitton > Cc: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 15:13:52 +0800 > > Hello, > > On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 10:05am +03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Sean Whitton > >> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 > >> > >> 1. emacs -q > >> 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) > >> 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected > >> > >> However: > >> > >> 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" > >> 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." > > > > Why is that a problem? > > It should say "C-z C-x is undefined" right away, like with every other key. C-x is not like other keys, it is handled specially. I think. From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 12:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73607 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org, Sean Whitton Received: via spool by 73607-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73607.172795678228584 (code B ref 73607); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 12:00:02 +0000 Received: (at 73607) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 11:59:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60164 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swKUg-0007Qy-Gg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:59:42 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:54510) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swKUe-0007Qo-Fm for 73607@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 03 Oct 2024 07:59:40 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XK9Ds3qGsz1s94j; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4XK9Ds1Mhbz1qqlS; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavis at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id LtG6qEC3WcKE; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 0Af/LvTr7tmIb00BIhC77xItZjtQ3gRhMGzUIE46sXKut541DpTcxFdOH+XyFXv+ Received: from igel.home (aftr-62-216-205-174.dynamic.mnet-online.de [62.216.205.174]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by igel.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43B302C2286; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 13:58:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab In-Reply-To: <868qv5zb0c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2024 14:22:43 +0300") References: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> <871q0xzmj3.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <868qv5zb0c.fsf@gnu.org> X-Yow: I Know A Joke Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 13:58:36 +0200 Message-ID: <87ldz575zn.fsf@igel.home> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) On Okt 03 2024, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> 1. emacs -q >> >> 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) >> >> 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected >> >> >> >> However: >> >> >> >> 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" >> >> 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." >> > >> > Why is that a problem? >> >> It should say "C-z C-x is undefined" right away, like with every other key. > > C-x is not like other keys, it is handled specially. I think. C-x starts a key translation. If you type C-z C-x 8 " s you get the same binding as C-z ß. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 7578 EB47 D4E5 4D69 2510 2552 DF73 E780 A9DA AEC1 "And now for something completely different." From unknown Mon Jun 23 07:51:11 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Sean Whitton Subject: bug#73607: closed (Re: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command) Message-ID: References: <87wmio1b5d.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 73607 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 73607@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 09:17:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1728033422-2236-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1728033422-2236-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 73607@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 73607: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D73607 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1728033422-2236-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 73607-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Oct 2024 09:16:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34423 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sweQ1-0000YR-NR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 05:16:13 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]:36912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swePz-0000Y8-A9 for 73607-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2024 05:16:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=39oRgpEKamSX9rtsOaUUB0dyI86JkltLSwbo9E1AKUVTBoSct3Co8P65jnUnufvof81UOLv7uA6aXrQxiWDJoNz4Jmmqm5q1lg89ZSlL8XK6JkaPwoQaIoqVeShpZeoSuCcr+3WSMKxP4DzpsRk8qyrCV1QpIS6blYEe9ZBBlMlsGFT78vKznNimVTZ2ZEIbbtwKb9WeLMHcZujuQ1eVmgfyshhomAlIwm8tRAK8ht1CJqq67XnM8+G4jyroIEBpOmzEMprE8WSUb8TTi8hevu8jMHZqhfipApCNM94oxch4VcB3eMToK6lACN1G7/tNC+WtfwzcPBJIHrJ2VjTKkA==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=xz8zjkbfHqPnIa525txAN0zqmf6eXqok01Jb4tzC9k0=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=TvZCxT24Z9n5q/GRQz+0CFTqqd29nSQrWXmGypRYE6OfTabBgDdMUE1AoUMaAwMpOiYZCD78lNXTSM6qr+eeqp+ibUN7JUww6bunNWuYm9DtTzgf76K6jHUFopJdaBFNGvWDmRh6NBc444FvDZNI7CKQXQxl3J9CQi4c47CJKwqNQ6NIgeQHojEoLmBaXOxrE53QnTlVL11Ip69jdw4UfywgLThD7GqkiPuUiz7m62OMIKgxU3T2Fzrw/gKkL2lii50H+Qt+WeHdpBonXjKI+APe+VOXOGAJ1HsbYRp3EemXglxSjqpzIFPKCVifu/FXsv3tZZoRSO3Xi7+maT7eIA==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=xz8zjkbfHqPnIa525txAN0zqmf6eXqok01Jb4tzC9k0=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: 73607-close@debbugs.gnu.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -1247941985; (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Fri, 04 Oct 2024 09:16:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8B41A7E36F2; Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:15:58 +0800 (CST) From: Sean Whitton To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#73607: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command In-Reply-To: <87ldz575zn.fsf@igel.home> (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 03 Oct 2024 13:58:36 +0200") References: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <86ldz5zmwb.fsf@gnu.org> <871q0xzmj3.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <868qv5zb0c.fsf@gnu.org> <87ldz575zn.fsf@igel.home> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2024 17:15:58 +0800 Message-ID: <87wmio1b5d.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73607-close Cc: 73607-close@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hello, On Thu 03 Oct 2024 at 01:58pm +02, Andreas Schwab wrote: > C-x starts a key translation. If you type C-z C-x 8 " s you get the > same binding as C-z =C3=9F. Ah, I see. Thanks. I think that this means this is not a bug. --=20 Sean Whitton ------------=_1728033422-2236-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Oct 2024 02:42:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59566 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swBnC-000289-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:14 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:44850) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1swBnB-000282-Jm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swBn9-00018X-T3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:12 -0400 Received: from sendmail.purelymail.com ([34.202.193.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1swBn8-0003VC-2V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2024 22:42:11 -0400 DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=pFuPzGf/lCXvN8iNSBy/O+zpFcJKMRkilHNz7SEgJQTxs9cMOx5nXkkp+xRv0E3MeTR8kzic4dlHchEm3RHKFY2HH3ITVOP24RuejFYTiMdUPXod6OPkSPPIrZHBatlS6R32PKW1Z5D9jRca+Q1Xui1h3EIabB6TiqU2p9+m39G16nXV+UFI++iSiAhVPRwO8aHWMbpE6WERwbU2DuNtfmdqZWkxEhVkMk5S73r1XcSdogOl1JwyHs1+o9WPMzJD5l/XxRVZCK4vv3KdZnkdqcu2HxeAhOGIAgWQDwHv3h7pvRqyW4YygrH1fmJtBPkiFvHlq6W0SJkL9LvPKJacbw==; s=purelymail2; d=spwhitton.name; v=1; bh=MwbhfXhdAxYAzVQdx8YKV+WBLnM5edXL5HaVuTWS+r8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha256; b=vcQ2fR1q6xeaMVsdR7DVqH1EenuFN/AVF5YDI7yamCzZ9OuQYsy0Zk4DiZr/ZpKmXeoFjYFi8aYfEzByMdHZzPRjjrTibno73o8SaKihCJkjvrTampy7ip5jrcnb6uK55xidUVNENo53uYAv3KGJ7LXg+svKoJDfQRymCSn8I0h9BxZmnI+NrwOJBCPEgb0S2+pcq4b9FO2qckNR5m7NvqzysmOHtUMaQJ4z9KLYiiGp4hykZc33JAOOyszKB4chS7uFwR4iKqqni5QNaEU/+wgKgYtI+Izk0xIpVud8gAsnayULhQ2ycdGMYN8VOr4k4Fwqjb21o3fMhcXnKTXurA==; s=purelymail2; d=purelymail.com; v=1; bh=MwbhfXhdAxYAzVQdx8YKV+WBLnM5edXL5HaVuTWS+r8=; h=Feedback-ID:Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date; Feedback-ID: 20115:3760:null:purelymail X-Pm-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: by smtp.purelymail.com (Purelymail SMTP) with ESMTPSA id -606902734 for (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384); Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:42:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by melete.silentflame.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7399F7E3B8A; Thu, 3 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 (CST) From: Sean Whitton To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 30.0.90; Strange behaviour of C-x with define-prefix-command Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2024 10:42:05 +0800 Message-ID: <87jzep3o1u.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=34.202.193.197; envelope-from=spwhitton@spwhitton.name; helo=sendmail.purelymail.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) 1. emacs -q 2. (global-set-key "\C-z" (define-prefix-command 'foo)) 3. C-z C-c => "C-z C-c is undefined" as expected However: 4. C-z C-x => "C-z C-x- (C-h for help)" 5. C-z C-x C-h => "No commands with a binding that start with C-z C-x." I am on the pgtk build. -- Sean Whitton ------------=_1728033422-2236-1--