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Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none! emacs-version "29.4" From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:39:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match Resent-From: Stefan Kangas Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 01:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73577 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dan Jacobson , 73577@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 73577-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73577.17277471298888 (code B ref 73577); Tue, 01 Oct 2024 01:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 73577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2024 01:45:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48338 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svRxB-0002JI-94 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:45:29 -0400 Received: from mail-ed1-f51.google.com ([209.85.208.51]:47606) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svRx8-0002J5-Bt for 73577@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 21:45:27 -0400 Received: by mail-ed1-f51.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5c5cf26b95aso5764810a12.3 for <73577@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:44:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1727747027; x=1728351827; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=h3//cUmXXlEbnFi27zf52dGOSxLdCBnf2mtuj/5ADAM=; b=I7VJu6eQ0oqsmaj+LSykecSWaAGREwTxkr4sYjh2Jb8kw+X/KTEWmoM/98SDqa9pYB 6dD7xMvPnfOzBmLPhLfrOivsPytxRC+ecAESp296yOHl3nMEubbPJS7/NnljDnOQILRE u4p6Rd5MkG7D6ddW4R4y8NoW6wEitNXSRkgpCawyVBpsni9hgEBcAUv0HYhw1ttpTDpW 20VfCRGThgJCw8HaRMat6kdOrTxCam+lmAsaRUkbDsdcMQ4hI11qk8jkc0M1faFKNn99 nalfWvwc4sogepoDuu1HRUsxwGOPLzuSb2DdiRmqwLzBoPCbiB5kpfta7F1PTH3oRBIo /yzg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727747027; x=1728351827; h=content-transfer-encoding:to:subject:message-id:date:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=h3//cUmXXlEbnFi27zf52dGOSxLdCBnf2mtuj/5ADAM=; b=EquRiHYRtVuArq2anmSfpTIFy5Y9jnuOwjeKicSTpW3HE8pJ1M+nfEW5jS/+PeMDm3 /JyPGYzER/jd/O55v4to1D8EUsMdWLR3HN/mX7I9VdT4pFWCHOz0yCEmXKAzc0ZuYcBG oyv7kBypphzChGJh/zk70yzrF8bdyw7ExaZy0KYsxfnKuTXiVzpaIe0/FB3D+i4HV1fo w+SD37ZSlHBTepqGJLyNPPGQYgxR0yNNPDTZ16xFPj6oUhsKFHeUvsGVPgoQ/J7UFFko 6J/FQSPVw2pnKxJj8AlHFhkNsVP7zsVXX6o1vBcJrXnjFCb6YMDsosvVq08KOhadMBrC t+Jg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV+MnO2UaSbMTd3X1fsw32+yo/50uXUhjszDKZ7sj/AtqLDNsst8Nip0erBVsKR+4Cr63J4QA==@debbugs.gnu.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyHwEh9XUUORhSIc4zfP+PIWmXr2xb6GbuwXyY4KQFjBkjnkLNM 4axXk5odrq47tEs9sdNvyb8xpY6u0MH0vj7S4zWl3FqpBrdzx5F6sQDe08P2pCxwDKDXT0mPJwD pI3RTkUFnCBlh7+Nv0PhH7aNEiJumlQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/3UaLYe09RdCooT2L/LqVeYCL6TXAf+n0svpncbS10OlxkfiAe05dbx6nIGG8gbrhf4+e0LgjI9jzBAL2Bzc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5110:b0:5c8:9551:d597 with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5c89551d68amr5005217a12.17.1727747026271; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700 From: Stefan Kangas In-Reply-To: <87jzes39bm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87jzes39bm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Dan Jacobson writes: > Allow us to examine the messages from M-x occur and next-error: > > You can run the command =E2=80=98occur=E2=80=99 with M-s o > Next locus from *Occur* [4 times] > occur-find-match: No more matches > > Better would be: > > You can run the command =E2=80=98occur=E2=80=99 with M-s o > Next locus from *Occur* [3 times] > Final locus from *Occur* > > That's right. Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final > match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none! > > emacs-version "29.4" IMO, "No more matches" is already clear. From unknown Tue Jun 17 01:39:24 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73577 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Stefan Kangas Cc: 73577@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org Received: via spool by 73577-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73577.172779818724744 (code B ref 73577); Tue, 01 Oct 2024 15:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 73577) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2024 15:56:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svfEg-0006R1-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 11:56:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58418) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svfEe-0006Qr-Oh for 73577@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 11:56:25 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1svfEZ-0000ll-Vb; Tue, 01 Oct 2024 11:56:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=6sqm87PRbQFCAcngLu9DaNgE+eHpOQnuhVUYRerwDX0=; b=CFEkAEo3MUpkxcPmQh+S n/5pq5R17I5QjeNO2QJs/CTmEnO2n5HbAPf/zilujLmTDxTZUG2pJLun5Qa50v1CaWGWsFNPenCas jCpIOxfs24OkkT3+XCluKfwfhCK5OoZJTzgizozDWruy5f/DyUHxjU02bSmxS1N3JrPhxurgbo1iZ qwj/V8isjA3kiDIUupyuhYQBUr+EXmA8JmD4amMCUyW8WeYaScvWm/k4BVVTg1lqA2vDFO6GsoRtl N31wc+QcJVoelbMd6Gnvjc2EKH8zVIazAcMvHxOslqivHg0TUlNtlnqFUP+7Vb29mDvtwBOL+KKt5 xjwDvVhERmMdKQ==; Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 18:56:16 +0300 Message-Id: <865xqb3jhb.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Kangas on Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700) References: <87jzes39bm.3.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Stefan Kangas > Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700 > > Dan Jacobson writes: > > > Allow us to examine the messages from M-x occur and next-error: > > > > You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o > > Next locus from *Occur* [4 times] > > occur-find-match: No more matches > > > > Better would be: > > > > You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o > > Next locus from *Occur* [3 times] > > Final locus from *Occur* > > > > That's right. Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final > > match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none! > > > > emacs-version "29.4" > > IMO, "No more matches" is already clear. Agreed. Moreover, we say that in many other cases, so it is a "de-facto standard". 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Moreover, we say that in many other cases, so it is a > "de-facto standard". Thanks, I'm therefore closing this bug report as wontfix. 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Wed, 02 Oct 2024 09:36:08 +0800 From: Dan Jacobson Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 11:12:06 +0800 (22 hours, 17 minutes, 47 seconds ago) Message-ID: <87y1371e2f.3.fsf@jidanni.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) Yes but with my method the user would know they are already getting the last bagel, so can avoid another useless trip to the bagel shop, only to be told there are no more bagels. 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