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Hint this is the final occur match

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Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: Hint this is the final occur match
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 09:23:25 +0800

Allow us to examine the messages from M-x occur and next-error:

  You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
  Next locus from *Occur* [4 times]
  occur-find-match: No more matches

Better would be:

  You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
  Next locus from *Occur* [3 times]
  Final locus from *Occur*

That's right. Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final
match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none!

emacs-version "29.4"

Message #8 received at 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>, 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700

Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:

> Allow us to examine the messages from M-x occur and next-error:
>
>   You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
>   Next locus from *Occur* [4 times]
>   occur-find-match: No more matches
>
> Better would be:
>
>   You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
>   Next locus from *Occur* [3 times]
>   Final locus from *Occur*
>
> That's right. Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final
> match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none!
>
> emacs-version "29.4"

IMO, "No more matches" is already clear.

Message #11 received at 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 18:56:16 +0300

> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 18:43:45 -0700
> 
> Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org> writes:
> 
> > Allow us to examine the messages from M-x occur and next-error:
> >
> >   You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
> >   Next locus from *Occur* [4 times]
> >   occur-find-match: No more matches
> >
> > Better would be:
> >
> >   You can run the command ‘occur’ with M-s o
> >   Next locus from *Occur* [3 times]
> >   Final locus from *Occur*
> >
> > That's right. Alerting the user that they are now looking at the final
> > match would help them avoid asking for another match when there are none!
> >
> > emacs-version "29.4"
> 
> IMO, "No more matches" is already clear.

Agreed.  Moreover, we say that in many other cases, so it is a
"de-facto standard".

Message #14 received at 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni <at> jidanni.org
Subject: Re: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2024 18:07:56 +0000

tags 73577 + wontfix notabug
close 73577
thanks

Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Agreed.  Moreover, we say that in many other cases, so it is a
> "de-facto standard".

Thanks, I'm therefore closing this bug report as wontfix.

Message #21 received at 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni <at> jidanni.org>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#73577: Hint this is the final occur match
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 11:12:06 +0800 (22 hours, 17 minutes, 47 seconds ago)

Yes but with my method the user would know they are already getting the
last bagel, so can avoid another useless trip to the bagel shop, only to
be told there are no more bagels. P.S.,
<73577 <at> debbugs.gnu.org>: host debbugs.gnu.org[209.51.188.43] refused to talk to
    me: 421 Downstream server error

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