From unknown Sat Aug 09 20:35:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73306: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server Resent-From: Attila Lendvai Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:24:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 73306 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 73306@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-guix@gnu.org" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.17265218314638 (code B ref -1); Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:24:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2024 21:23:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53488 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJCI-0001Cj-Rc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:51 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJCG-0001Ca-Of for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJC2-0002v2-Le for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:34 -0400 Received: from mail-4022.proton.ch ([185.70.40.22]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJBz-0004g7-Ag for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lendvai.name; s=protonmail2; t=1726521808; x=1726781008; bh=iRDTdgXibRfl4+D4/4hhlrCR5mjC6nMZmxxY7fsSnuc=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=hAqvYnxBPJVQshZ3FMf06xEo8oyHiVLb+3z+2R6ydVBrC/t1qwMbr0pCw41DkUUSy usWf0X/NViYPO7kk3smhYe/9I5PmxHij4FOXJAfGzdkO6xT/3a4edJJkCwqeP9TyVF WcwXxqDm1A3wCN1OBWjmxbi/yi2wMSU+IyT4NuVfqS2uXEeqHj1ErIlGdoevMrWggX 4T++SXQAi6PCf9DtQpAQjVRs2PMEdq1feLgfB4OB9GGT3afiQl2+qQVN4N8vjWTA0U Fb4uwhYJ0PnPrr952lSsS0r8V8izMwoU6Z1phEM6bNFxQkHPQDYWnxaBj+VqXixFzK lyG74y/f6tzoA== Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:23:22 +0000 From: Attila Lendvai Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 28384833:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 762c8eb73e5c19797966c70e62eb0af02c9b97c6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.22; envelope-from=attila@lendvai.name; helo=mail-4022.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) should `guix deploy` work with dropbear? on one of my servers i have replaced openssh with dropbear. (service dropbear-service-type (dropbear-configuration (port-number 22) (password-authentication? #false) ;; To allow `guix deploy` to connect as root. (root-login? #true))) i `guix deploy`ed the config, even rebooted the machine. all works fine, ex= cept when i want to `guix deploy` once again: $ guix deploy x.scm The following 1 machine will be deployed: lendvai guix deploy: deploying to lendvai... ;;; [2024/09/16 23:10:53.550882, 0] [GSSH ERROR] : # Backtrace: In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 19 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/status.scm: 839:4 18 (call-with-status-report _ _) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 17 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/store.scm: 689:37 16 (thunk) 1330:8 15 (call-with-build-handler # _) In guix/scripts/deploy.scm: 284:23 14 (_) In guix/store.scm: 1412:11 13 (map/accumulate-builds # # =E2=80=A6) 1330:8 12 (call-with-build-handler # _) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 11 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/scripts/deploy.scm: 166:29 10 (_) In gnu/machine/ssh.scm: 513:25 9 (deploy-managed-host #< operating-system: #< kernel: #) 397:2 8 (check-deployment-sanity #< operating-system: #< kernel: #) 365:17 7 (machine-check-building-for-appropriate-system _) In guix/ssh.scm: 204:18 6 (remote-system _) 191:15 5 (remote-inferior _ _) In ssh/popen.scm: 64:4 4 (open-remote-pipe* # "r+" _ . _) In unknown file: 3 (channel-open-session #) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1685:16 2 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) 1685:16 1 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) 1685:16 0 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception: Throw to key `guile-ssh-error' with args `("channel-open-session" "" # #f)'. the ssh login part seems to have worked fine according to /var/log/secure: Sep 16 23:10:52 localhost dropbear[489]: Pubkey auth succeeded for 'root' w= ith ssh-ed25519 key SHA256:[...] from [...] Sep 16 23:10:53 localhost dropbear[489]: Exit (root) from <...>: Exited nor= mally --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CLet him who would move the world, first move himself.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Socrates (c. 470=E2=80=93399 BC, tried and executed) From unknown Sat Aug 09 20:35:00 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#73306: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server References: Resent-From: Attila Lendvai Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 73306 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: bug#73306 <73306@debbugs.gnu.org> Received: via spool by 73306-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B73306.172769015610496 (code B ref 73306); Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 73306) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2024 09:55:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44746 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svD8G-0002jD-EY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 05:55:56 -0400 Received: from mail-ej1-f50.google.com ([209.85.218.50]:58693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1svD89-0002f4-M9 for 73306@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 05:55:53 -0400 Received: by mail-ej1-f50.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a8ce5db8668so740540566b.1 for <73306@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:55:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1727690051; x=1728294851; darn=debbugs.gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :in-reply-to:subject:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=8PM4nwzTy0+uO1vgpT5IfoHvF6Fn5RxOKIFOS4ciZ84=; b=Zt6SBTjLR0UWM1sug1nvS2d8L64mEMnByscNTyAT1359IPiRFE6Tpa5coG1KDSfzKb d6gctNVecwNhCTHZIIuzxPskoxQj5Ddkj36GUESXQT+m3mPZoTNxrwHZa3CR13PB7j1U n0hOzRE8T3+o2LD0pYXnC4XP+Rf9pQ77g24bFFf1lFBXuOZ/CucGe0ohO4d26ff/xteL ehgQK7ZgDfHpvS5Pi+kQQKFuBdU44BTpsWj51u9kEVNdOxjRAnlBV9oQcpCVKEs07hpB bF1DYS323COLHWBWdOx6YI6fq+TWovcooHLJz0lbVZ5Gi0TOApoqrz0hhihchaRYJaMJ kTlw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727690051; x=1728294851; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:user-agent:message-id:date :in-reply-to:subject:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=8PM4nwzTy0+uO1vgpT5IfoHvF6Fn5RxOKIFOS4ciZ84=; b=Qfd6LYywkHB4olvV/BDYBzOW26fLyakwpKI7WahoZpUdWvRHwmhH//80WAxWwKYf7a TIz8VaFmD6ZAECqKwbR8xzEBgmJ9yApoLCHrcbRCJGdK+3bQusp/ZXkRNp3ccDtXtWF2 V+bTYllnj44iXwA44FG3YZfwi0CZvJ3a1dBxUoR8pIh5VQ9XSkkOmJZ/MUxQoBJDq6ie OuFx49dlRE4AvzoJmO6dhF0a/4c3p3CQPF1IPQ6XCjBdFmfgrn7fYjk1EY6JNxB9cFsG +z5h/gCZ2ox8CdLRnuVYyHMmpOdamde6UNm/QD8sd/y1RjFwxpbQRofAGwRPgYbMeDMo NQXw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxnwohrcqCoLX+xUocTpH4mzKPevZHzAcJcOVreMWFkOGrVylRk 6Ft099nhIDJfzLC78BnC7IDqf2we1qDnMpgLDx5f0m4Zx1mRtor2jbh7Gw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IG9qJXfHiT+jmwFqVc5BUWu0S6xMmLdAn0friTTUc+e1gNa/vF4cXkkyH8eI4UqyOLikozi6Q== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:ea4:b0:a90:c411:24fd with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a93c48e8c04mr1281723966b.10.1727690051208; Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:54:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lelap (2a00-1f40-b161-3580--477.pool6.panelnet.hu. [2a00:1f40:b161:3580::477]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a93c297a4d2sm504480266b.155.2024.09.30.02.54.10 for <73306@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 30 Sep 2024 02:54:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Attila Lendvai X-Google-Original-From: Attila Lendvai In-Reply-To: bug's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2024 09:51:41 +0000" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:54:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87plolpiv2.fsf@lendvai.name> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) this seems to be an upstream regression: https://github.com/mkj/dropbear/issues/321 i can see the same failing assert in my server's /var/log/secure when i try to `guix deploy` to it: Failed assertion (src/common-channel.c:705): `!channel->sent_close' <#secure method=3Dpgpmime mode=3Dsign> --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CMany abused children cling to the hope that growing up will bring = escape and freedom. But the personality formed in the environment of coercive control is not we= ll adapted to adult life. The survivor is left with fundamental problems in= basic trust, autonomy, and initiative. She approaches the task of early ad= ulthood=E2=80=95establishing independence and intimacy=E2=80=95burdened by = major impairments in self-care, in cognition and in memory, in identity, an= d in the capacity to form stable relationships. She is still a prisoner of her childhood; attempting to create a new life, = she reencounters the trauma.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Judith Lewis Herman (1942=E2=80=93) From unknown Sat Aug 09 20:35:00 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Attila Lendvai Subject: bug#73306: closed (Re: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server) Message-ID: References: <87y11oiv8y.fsf@lendvai.name> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 73306 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 73306@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:49:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1731408542-524-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1731408542-524-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #73306: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. 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[2a00:1f40:b161:3800::477]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-381eda04ceasm14866221f8f.102.2024.11.12.02.47.46 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 12 Nov 2024 02:47:46 -0800 (PST) From: Attila Lendvai X-Google-Original-From: Attila Lendvai To: 73306-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server In-reply-to: <87plolpiv2.fsf@lendvai.name> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 11:47:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87y11oiv8y.fsf@lendvai.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 73306-done Cc: Attila Lendvai , Attila Lendvai X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) > this seems to be an upstream regression: >=20 > https://github.com/mkj/dropbear/issues/321 this has been fixed upstream. <#secure method=3Dpgpmime mode=3Dsign> --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CThose who are able to see beyond the shadows and lies of their cul= ture will never be understood, let alone believed, by the masses.=E2=80=9D =E2=80=94 Plato (c. 427=E2=80=93347 BC) ------------=_1731408542-524-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Sep 2024 21:23:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53488 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJCI-0001Cj-Rc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:51 -0400 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]:49550) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJCG-0001Ca-Of for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJC2-0002v2-Le for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:34 -0400 Received: from mail-4022.proton.ch ([185.70.40.22]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sqJBz-0004g7-Ag for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 17:23:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lendvai.name; s=protonmail2; t=1726521808; x=1726781008; bh=iRDTdgXibRfl4+D4/4hhlrCR5mjC6nMZmxxY7fsSnuc=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date: Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID:Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=hAqvYnxBPJVQshZ3FMf06xEo8oyHiVLb+3z+2R6ydVBrC/t1qwMbr0pCw41DkUUSy usWf0X/NViYPO7kk3smhYe/9I5PmxHij4FOXJAfGzdkO6xT/3a4edJJkCwqeP9TyVF WcwXxqDm1A3wCN1OBWjmxbi/yi2wMSU+IyT4NuVfqS2uXEeqHj1ErIlGdoevMrWggX 4T++SXQAi6PCf9DtQpAQjVRs2PMEdq1feLgfB4OB9GGT3afiQl2+qQVN4N8vjWTA0U Fb4uwhYJ0PnPrr952lSsS0r8V8izMwoU6Z1phEM6bNFxQkHPQDYWnxaBj+VqXixFzK lyG74y/f6tzoA== Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 21:23:22 +0000 To: "bug-guix@gnu.org" From: Attila Lendvai Subject: guix deploy fails with dropbear ssh server Message-ID: Feedback-ID: 28384833:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 762c8eb73e5c19797966c70e62eb0af02c9b97c6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.22; envelope-from=attila@lendvai.name; helo=mail-4022.proton.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) should `guix deploy` work with dropbear? on one of my servers i have replaced openssh with dropbear. (service dropbear-service-type (dropbear-configuration (port-number 22) (password-authentication? #false) ;; To allow `guix deploy` to connect as root. (root-login? #true))) i `guix deploy`ed the config, even rebooted the machine. all works fine, ex= cept when i want to `guix deploy` once again: $ guix deploy x.scm The following 1 machine will be deployed: lendvai guix deploy: deploying to lendvai... ;;; [2024/09/16 23:10:53.550882, 0] [GSSH ERROR] : # Backtrace: In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 19 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/status.scm: 839:4 18 (call-with-status-report _ _) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 17 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/store.scm: 689:37 16 (thunk) 1330:8 15 (call-with-build-handler # _) In guix/scripts/deploy.scm: 284:23 14 (_) In guix/store.scm: 1412:11 13 (map/accumulate-builds # # =E2=80=A6) 1330:8 12 (call-with-build-handler # _) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1752:10 11 (with-exception-handler _ _ #:unwind? _ #:unwind-for-type _) In guix/scripts/deploy.scm: 166:29 10 (_) In gnu/machine/ssh.scm: 513:25 9 (deploy-managed-host #< operating-system: #< kernel: #) 397:2 8 (check-deployment-sanity #< operating-system: #< kernel: #) 365:17 7 (machine-check-building-for-appropriate-system _) In guix/ssh.scm: 204:18 6 (remote-system _) 191:15 5 (remote-inferior _ _) In ssh/popen.scm: 64:4 4 (open-remote-pipe* # "r+" _ . _) In unknown file: 3 (channel-open-session #) In ice-9/boot-9.scm: 1685:16 2 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) 1685:16 1 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) 1685:16 0 (raise-exception _ #:continuable? _) ice-9/boot-9.scm:1685:16: In procedure raise-exception: Throw to key `guile-ssh-error' with args `("channel-open-session" "" # #f)'. the ssh login part seems to have worked fine according to /var/log/secure: Sep 16 23:10:52 localhost dropbear[489]: Pubkey auth succeeded for 'root' w= ith ssh-ed25519 key SHA256:[...] from [...] Sep 16 23:10:53 localhost dropbear[489]: Exit (root) from <...>: Exited nor= mally --=20 =E2=80=A2 attila lendvai =E2=80=A2 PGP: 963F 5D5F 45C7 DFCD 0A39 -- =E2=80=9CLet him who would move the world, first move himself.=E2=80=9D =09=E2=80=94 Socrates (c. 470=E2=80=93399 BC, tried and executed) ------------=_1731408542-524-1--